bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^Tax hikes affect everyone....you may not be directly taxed, but there are definately indirect consequences, especially to local economies.
Take Wilmington for example. The city government is annexing the monkey junction area for more tax revenue. They have no sidewalks, city parks, street lights...no reason to justify the increased taxes; and the residents are outraged. As they tax more, people spend less and local business' begin to struggle. Go out and try to find a job when when businesses are struggling and tell me how it goes..... 4/11/2009 6:21:08 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "laws against gay marriage don't affect me, so why should I care?" |
Exactly. What's your point?
Quote : | "and the residents are outraged." |
If everyone is so outraged, then do something meaningful. Something other than this stunt and then acting like its the goddamn Boston Tea Party.
I guarantee that these I-Hate-the-Darkie-President circle jerks accomplish absolutely nothing.4/11/2009 6:52:43 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
laws against abortion don't affect me. I'll never have one. jim crow laws don't affect me, I'm white. 4/11/2009 7:18:48 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
^ I guarantee you won't find me teabagging anything for those issues either. 4/11/2009 7:38:47 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
I'll bet u'll be teabagging it 4/11/2009 9:03:33 PM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Daily Kos is generally no where near as bad as WND." |
I guess BS is in the eye of the beholder.
I can see where libs are going to think the "Tea Tantrums" are silly and unproductive. But what skin is it off you if they want to gather and vent?
I thought the "Million Man March" was pretty pointless, but if people wanted to do it--good for them.
Cool down! You've got control of the congress and the presidency. Relax...enjoy it! Don't fret over a measly hundred thousand people protesting Tax and Spend statism.
[Edited on April 11, 2009 at 10:06 PM. Reason : .]4/11/2009 10:06:20 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
Amen
Cool down
Relax
We're all just patriots questioning patriots
There's no jewels... Just the fate of mankind hanging in the balance
Don't worry about it
In the 1950's we were all thinking about flying cars by 2000
But the other side prevented that from reality
I wonder how the fuck that happened 4/11/2009 10:57:49 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I don't think anyone is saying they can't or shouldn't get together and vent. Just that the people that would, in general, are hypocrites. And there's bound to be plenty of racism mixed in and obama-is-not-American rhetoric. 4/12/2009 2:20:08 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
I'm trying to figure out why people from New York keep sending me the labels from the lipton's tea. It would be fine if they sent tea, but they don't. 4/12/2009 4:51:55 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
I saw a chart similar to this somewhere, but can't find it again, so I just recreated it.
Not that I totally agree with it, because our Representatives are the ones that are screwing us, but the point stands that the comparison to the Boston Tea Party isn't really apt. 4/12/2009 5:09:18 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
How is it representation when they're all members of the NWO Illuminati North American Bilderburg Trilateral Commission.
[Edited on April 12, 2009 at 8:11 PM. Reason : .] 4/12/2009 8:10:58 PM |
adam8778 All American 3095 Posts user info edit post |
4/13/2009 4:24:50 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
Cincinnati Tea Party sounds like a dirty sexual innuendo 4/13/2009 6:26:41 PM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "there's bound to be plenty of racism mixed in and obama-is-not-American rhetoric" |
Will you apologize for this statement if you can't come up with any examples of racism at any of the tea-parties?4/14/2009 1:47:43 AM |
not dnl Suspended 13193 Posts user info edit post |
found out sunday that the biggest organizer these tea partys is a group run by dick army... 4/14/2009 4:59:49 AM |
lazarus All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
To clear up that Andrew Sullivan piece: They are protesting the administration's mortgage relief plan. See: Rick Santelli. 4/14/2009 5:16:20 AM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Will you apologize for this statement if you can't come up with any examples of racism at any of the tea-parties?" |
2-minute google search for "Racism at Tea Parties" yielded the following result:
Beat it.4/14/2009 7:37:54 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
and you consider a picture of a black guy to be racist? 4/14/2009 11:14:42 AM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Any group that helps someone commit voter fraud should not get a penny of tax-payer money.
Sorry. Next. 4/14/2009 11:16:52 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
^yep. Sorry you missed the point and just went with the first black guy on a poster to prove your point. 4/14/2009 11:24:19 AM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Any group that helps someone commit voter fraud should not get a penny of tax-payer money.
Sorry. Next." |
The group didn't help anyone commit voter fraud. Individuals hired by the group scammed the group and filled out fake registrations for cash that wasn't properly earned. Daffy duck and mickey mouse were not going to go and vote.4/14/2009 11:27:24 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
not to mention most of the fraud that people cite is fraud reported by ACORN itself (as they are legally required to do). it only wastes their money for their employees to defraud the system. 4/14/2009 11:31:02 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
ah, but they would have been eligible for an absentee ballot. All 72 times unless someone caught it. 4/14/2009 11:31:05 AM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
which if you refer to ^^ it preemptively was.
The racism depicted can be somewhat debated but i think its highly evident that there is significant stereotyping (often a component of racism) being demonstrated and could have been done by someone who honestly believes that Obama wouldn't have received hes 350+ electoral votes had blacks not been double registering themselves. A notion that is entirely baseless and false. 4/14/2009 11:34:23 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
I dont believe that to be the case(about obama not winning), but I do believe in having the most best system we can. I dont think any group like this should receive any federal funds imo. 4/14/2009 12:01:06 PM |
Socks`` All American 11792 Posts user info edit post |
Can't say I really dig the tea party thing.
I mean, I don't oppose increasing income taxes to what they were under Bill Clinton because I am concerned about the federal deficit.
And while I do think that the stimulus package is spending a lot of money very poorly, I still thought a fiscal stimulus was needed. So I guess my argument was more about size and execution of the stimulus than the principle (i don't think infrastructure projects will do much for recovery and i don't think politicians are concerned enough about the long-run burden of servicing the added debt).
[Edited on April 14, 2009 at 1:39 PM. Reason : ``] 4/14/2009 1:34:08 PM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "any group like this" |
elaborate.4/14/2009 1:37:49 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
groups that "get out the vote" 4/14/2009 2:06:05 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
TEXAS POWR!!!!
4/14/2009 2:10:15 PM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
^^ do you see anything wrong with people promoting voting amongst citizens? Personally I see nothing dubious about it, and am baffled why anyone would think there is anything wrong with an organization that promotes the basics of democratic principles. 4/14/2009 2:57:15 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
"not on his tax dollars" 4/14/2009 3:04:43 PM |
bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^^ Here's the thing.....These people are not just protesting the fact that a massive pork filled stimulus plan was passed without a single congressman reading the bill....this is about something far larger than that. Its about an ideology difference.
For years, under Republican and Democratic leadership, the government on the local, state, and federal levels have been taxing working people's income and giving it to people who dont work. It's been called a bunch of things: wealth redistribution, and social justice are a few examples.
Since this insane package was passed, these people have some momentum. Its the perfect time to get their point out. 4/14/2009 3:52:04 PM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
how have they gained more momentum, specifically 4/14/2009 4:01:16 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "do you see anything wrong with people promoting voting amongst citizens?" |
No, just dont see how you need to bill taxpayers to do it.
I do think telling people how to vote IS wrong. Or giving something for someone to vote is...esp if it goes back to the taxpayers bill.4/14/2009 5:19:09 PM |
FitchNCSU All American 3283 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Cincinnati Tea Party sounds like a dirty sexual innuendo" |
4/14/2009 8:16:04 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and you consider a picture of a black guy to be racist?" |
I guarantee that was the only black face you saw at that "party". That sign is racist.
No -- it did not say "I hate niggers." It's still racist.
Either way, my misguided uncle is racist as hell and he went to the Wilmington tea party. I'm sure he let the n-word fly. So there is your "evidence". Beat it.
[Edited on April 14, 2009 at 10:57 PM. Reason : .]4/14/2009 10:50:54 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
rappers say "nigger" all the time, too. guess they are racist, too. better start tirading against them... 4/14/2009 11:06:51 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
^ You are dense as fuck. 4/14/2009 11:12:04 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
glad to see that you admit defeat. thx 4/14/2009 11:22:35 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Do you really need to have the difference explained to you? I mean it's pretty fucking obvious. 4/14/2009 11:29:21 PM |
tromboner950 All American 9667 Posts user info edit post |
That sign may or may not be racist... it's kind of borderline, given that it's not actually bashing the black guy pictured or even insinuating anything about him besides that he's the target demographic of ACORN. Though, if I were to bet on it, my money would be on "it's racist"... can't really be certain without knowing something about who made it, though.
...However, the "rappers say it too so they must be racist" argument continues to be one of the dumbest ideas ever conceived. I am honestly surprised that anyone on this board would have ever actually used it and thought they'd won the argument. TSB can get pretty stupid sometimes, but that's just too stupid to believe. 4/14/2009 11:34:24 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
^ if you don't understand that the context of a word matters as much in whether its racist as much as the actual word, then you are hopeless.
that was, you know, kind of the point in my absurd example 4/15/2009 8:39:21 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Well thanks for your "evidence" OopsPowSrprs. I guess that settles it, one racist uncle could have possible said the n word, so the rest of us shouldnt be upset about spending and the direction things are heading.... thanks for clearing that up.
btw, If I hear something racist, Ill try to confront whoever and tell them that isnt the issue or necessary. If I hear a lot of it, Ill leave. I honestly dont think Ill will hear it though.
[Edited on April 15, 2009 at 8:46 AM. Reason : .] 4/15/2009 8:44:51 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
you guys need to get this thread up to at least 5 pages today
btw it's okay to be racist against illegals, so you won't have to worry about that...
we're only worried about the the cartoonish racist stuff, ie if you see a KKK member or a noose... the under-the surface stuff like "those people are always looking for handouts" is obviously passable and shouldn't bother anyone
and don't even get me started on "threats on the sanctity of the traditional family"
[Edited on April 15, 2009 at 9:20 AM. Reason : OH LAWD] 4/15/2009 9:09:24 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "btw it's okay to be racist against illegals," |
What a great line. I suppose its ok to be "racist" against criminals too? Or by racist maybe you mean against favortism and for actually enforcing our laws which were broken. I dunno, I dont understand you without a picture. 4/15/2009 9:31:59 AM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Embed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLsKt4O4Yw8
I do love how in every clip I watch, Fox News is taking this super serious and everyone at MSNBC seems to be cracking dick jokes. 4/15/2009 9:34:37 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
^^
you can get what you can get out of it
you're on here for my enjoyment 4/15/2009 9:36:27 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Well I hope i can live up to your expectations.
I actually though that you would post the baby picture flipping the bird. Kinda let me down a lil.
How does Maddogg know anything about teabagging anyway?
[Edited on April 15, 2009 at 9:42 AM. Reason : .] 4/15/2009 9:37:59 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
i would never post something so base as a baby flipping a bird
[Edited on April 15, 2009 at 9:45 AM. Reason : +] 4/15/2009 9:39:53 AM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
The lefties don't want to talk about the run-away spending of Obama and the congress, they don't want to talk about the bloated federal tax system that cost Americans hundreds of millions of dollars in compliance costs.
They don't want to talk about the money we would save if the federal gov't was reigned back to its Constitutional limits. They don;t want to talk about how Obama and his buddies are trying to use taxes to punish the successful. Right now, the top 1% of wage-earners earn 19% of the income..but pay 40% of the income tax. What's fair about that?
Libs have to talk around the subject of taxes, "They're racists!" "The protests are planned!" "Jon Stewart is making fun of them!" "Those bumpkin tax protesters aren't as sophisticated as I am!"
Don't let them get you off the track. We should get at least one day to point out the bloated tax system, and the runaway tax and spending from both parties. 4/15/2009 10:22:37 AM |