Noen makes a good point about user query impact on the results... remember that most of the MS campus have been using kumo/bing for awhile for testing purposes so their results are going to be very Microsoft centered.

Besides, if Bing returned exactly the same results as google then there would definitely be no point in using it. A different perspective in a different format is very refreshing.

6/2/2009 12:01:04 AM

http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/02/join-the-experiment-one-week-of-bing-only-searching/

6/2/2009 1:11:03 PM

today i searched bing for "visual studio disable msn messenger" and the 7th result was gay.com

6/2/2009 4:21:36 PM

^ i didn't believe you, so i tried it myself

haha

6/2/2009 5:29:18 PM

Quote :

"today i searched bing for "visual studio disable msn messenger" and the 7th result was gay.com"

Quote :

"remember that most of the MS campus have been using kumo/bing for awhile for testing purposes so their results are going to be very Microsoft centered."

hahaha

6/2/2009 5:41:53 PM

Quote :

"linux windows linux microsoft"

lol

6/2/2009 5:48:41 PM

Search both google and bing on the same page.

http://www.blackdog.ie/google-bing/search.php

6/2/2009 10:27:45 PM

^ funny you should link to that - i assume you found it on TechCrunch.

The creator/owner/sole coder of blackdog.ie is a friend of mine - he's an Irish engineer living in Munich. We became good friends when I was in Munich and we were working for the same company. That company has now gone bankrupt and he's trying to make it as an independent web designer.

anyway, he sent me and another friend an email this morning at 8AM:

Quote :

"http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/02/search-smackdown-bing-vs-google/ one example of the power of twitter, I tweeted, it got caught by someone else, they retweeted and it got picked up by a TechCrunch editor and they made a post. So far today there are over 12k searches via my tool. p"

then at 9AM

Quote :

"Fast approaching 20k searches for today alone. Nicht so schlect ! It was rather a fluke to get mentioned, but I'll take the lime light none the less. "

and again this afternoon

Quote :

"Right now there is 14k visitors for today (but there is a lag on google analytics), about 55k queries submitted to the engine (up to date stats) Linked on Washington Post / Sky News / Suedeutsche news so far today. Sky News (above Paul and Ringo) The Washington Post http://www.sueddeutsche.de/computer/121/470666/text/ Not a bad day at the office. p"

strange what a small world it can be.....

6/2/2009 10:49:42 PM

http://www.bing.com/search?q=russell+wilson

You're dead to me, Bing.

[Edited on June 2, 2009 at 11:26 PM. Reason : ^LOL TWITTER IS SO DUM WHO CARES WHAT U HAD FOR BREAKFAST LOL]

6/2/2009 11:21:51 PM

^^ i actually found it linked in the comment section of ghacks.net for an article that challenged folks to use bing for a week and see if it is worth it's salt. I do find it funny how viral something so simple can become.

6/2/2009 11:47:33 PM

one thing i already dislike:

if you search for something and it's spelled correctly, but if bing thinks you meant something else, it AUTOMATICALLY includes what IT thinks is the right spelling. if you want ONLY your spelling you have to search "+term"

google on the other hand shows you ONLY what you searched for and quietly suggests, did you mean "term" at the top of your results, without automatically including them.

6/3/2009 12:50:59 AM

Did a search for "endoplasic" to test this... When I look at it Google is the worse culprit.

Bing returns:

Quote :

"Results are included for endoplasmic. Show just the results for endoplasic."

Google returns:

Quote :

"Did you mean: endoplasmic Top 2 results shown {two "endoplasmic" results here} Results for: endoplasic {a couple of results for "endoplasic", but the majority are returned results for "endoplastic" but no mention of it being incorporated} "

There is no way to excluded the "endoplastic" results from "endoplasic" when using google.

Also, bing includes the "+endoplasic" search link along with the assumed correct option for easy clarification, while google only offers the assumed correct option of "endoplasmic" (have to manually type in "+endoplasic" and I know my wife and parents have no clue how to use modifiers/parameters)


[Edited on June 3, 2009 at 4:14 AM. Reason : fix]

6/3/2009 4:10:38 AM

^i don't get any results with the suggested word included on google.

Quote :

"Also, bing includes the "+endoplasic" search link along with the assumed correct option for easy clarification, while google only offers the assumed correct option of "endoplasmic" (have to manually type in "+endoplasic" and I know my wife and parents have no clue how to use modifiers/parameters)"

i DO like the fact that they have a link to use the modifier...

[Edited on June 3, 2009 at 11:04 AM. Reason : .]

6/3/2009 11:02:17 AM

i think i'll forever be addicted to the firefox start page

6/3/2009 11:19:01 AM

Not sure how big of a deal this is because it's nearly impossible to quantify....

Personally, when I see a PPC ad I never, ever click it. On Google, I just copy/paste the sponsored link into a new tab. I get to the site fine of course, but I just don't feel right clicking on a PPC ad (esp. a small business) if I'm just going to look at it for 10 seconds and leave.

Bing doesn't let you copy and paste the link. Some of the links are long and when you type in the url, the page may or may not exist... Example - From the pics on the first page, there is a search for "linux windows". If you search that, there is a VMware PPC ad with the url http://www.vmware.com/linux-windows. Since that seems to be a strange VMware ad for VMware to produce and a weird link, I typed it in a new tab - the page of course does not exist. However, I'm not going to click that link JUST to see what that page is....

Sooo, people may be like me and try to copy/paste that link and not be able to. If they click ANYWHERE within that ad, by accident, whatever, that's a click and the advertiser is charged. I would venture to say that Bing will produce more click-throughs for ads but the conversions will be worse in terms of percentages.

I do think that MS should emulate Google on this one as far as ads...

6/3/2009 12:00:20 PM

^i'd probably say you are in the very small minority on that one...

6/3/2009 12:04:48 PM

yeah, it would be tough to quantify.... I wouldn't click on the Bing ad for VMware because I own VMW shares and get paid indirectly by them . But if I saw that same link on Google I could at least copy and paste it. Also hard to quantify of course, but it is 10 times easier to click a Bing PPC ad accidentally than a Google ad... and if the conversions or time spent don't match or exceed Google, logic says that companies will just advertise more on Google.

6/3/2009 12:18:32 PM

A side note, the 8% cashback program transferred from live to bing, so you can still get 8% cashback on your ebay purchases if you find them through bing.

6/3/2009 10:04:06 PM

^^^^^^ Clearly, it depends on the mispelled word you are using. The one I chose had two logical outcomes and google notified me of one and included the second. Both of us are being pretty knitpicky about these details so I doubt any normal user notices these differences. I would expect google to implement the included modifier very soon (it really does make sense now that I see it done) and I could see Bing offering a more distinct separation between the typed and assumed entries.

Regardless, Bing is clearly a capable search engine with attributes that many seem to like. At the very least, this forces Google to stay on their toes and keep providing a dominant, yet dynamic, search engine. Sort of reminds me how Apple, after Microsoft's zune unveilings last year, had their hand forced into announcing a 16Gb nano even though they clearly were going to stick with 4/8 models. Or how Windows 7 has clearly been whipped into shape after Mac/OSx making significant strides into mainstream. We all win when an "also ran" releases something of consequence.

6/3/2009 11:56:53 PM

Seems to be just as good as Google regardless of all the nitpicking I have been hearing. I am switching to Bing. I like the nice background, kinda of reminds me of the original xp desktop.

I just switched chrome to default to use bing as search engine. Ohh the Irony!

6/4/2009 12:18:05 AM

^^Syprus is not misspelled...

[Edited on June 4, 2009 at 12:19 AM. Reason : .]

6/4/2009 12:19:25 AM

Quote :

"I just switched chrome to default to use bing as search engine. Ohh the Irony!"

hmm... seems like you like the shiny new thing in both cases

6/4/2009 6:30:12 AM

so has anyone considered that maybe google intentionally leaves out microsoft results as much as microsoft intentionally includes them?

6/4/2009 8:57:01 AM

ok you are all bitching about the bias... but if it organizes searches by most popular search and bing is in its beta phase/ just released .... most of its searches thus far are from MICROSOFT EMPLOYEES.... so this indexing is going to be jacked up until it gets a less bias portion of the market.

..... or maybe i have no fucking clue what i'm talking about...

This bit of base-less insight brought to you by
-sumfoo1
the anti-knowledge

6/5/2009 11:22:25 AM

^

Quote :

""today i searched bing for "visual studio disable msn messenger" and the 7th result was gay.com""

6/5/2009 11:45:46 AM

see.... neon would like gay.com point proven.

(j/k dude don't get all pissy with me)

6/5/2009 12:15:47 PM

With all the web hype all, Bing surpassed Yahoo yesterday and took a bit away from Google as well. I checked my Analytics for my site M-F, which receives 300+ unique hits per day...

Google 859 hits 68.5%
Bing 58 hits 4.33%
Yahoo 45 hits 3.16%

The rest are direct hits and other referring sites.

6/5/2009 5:32:05 PM

that Bing commercial is so fucking annoying

I will never go to this site because of this

6/8/2009 11:42:02 AM

yeah, 90% of the commercials on hulu.com for the past week have been for the "bing-a-thon". They're annoying as shit, and nobody is saying wtf the bing-a-thon is

6/8/2009 11:46:27 AM

http://www.itpro.co.uk/611440/updated-bing-and-yahoo-battle-it-out-for-second-in-search

6/8/2009 12:05:55 PM

heh



(from digg)



On a side note i tried searching for the company i'm doing some work for in bing, and it didn't correct it based upon results. Looks like it only corrects common words, not proper nouns.

V not mine, from digg, just thought it was funny.

[Edited on June 9, 2009 at 12:46 PM. Reason : .]

6/9/2009 12:31:18 PM

^Ugliest system fonts ever.

6/9/2009 12:43:42 PM

^That's because most companies SUBMIT their sites to google. Very few submit to other search engines. You can't pick up data you don't have.

6/9/2009 4:25:20 PM

I don't know if it will ever overtake google, but Bing is by far the best porn video search engine on the internet

6/11/2009 4:16:09 PM

^ haha, i just did a video search simply for "porn", and (after turning SafeSearch off) was surprised that simply mousing-over the videos starts them and the audio. But funny thing - on the 4th row, 3rd from left, labeled "highschool homeade porn webcam" is, i'm pretty sure, the infamous UT Sex Tape from ~1999! The linked video doesn't actually play, but from the thumbnails it does show, i'm pretty sure that's the one

6/11/2009 4:24:22 PM

ahhh, memories.

6/11/2009 4:44:41 PM

Quote :

"ahhh, mammaries."

6/11/2009 4:46:11 PM

haha...video searching for 'evo IX at vir' 5 out of the 6 results are my videos

6/11/2009 7:53:12 PM

HOLY SHIT I SEARCHED THE INTERNET FOR QNTMFRED AND FOUND STUFF ABOUT MEEEEEE!

:-|

6/11/2009 9:12:36 PM

well Id expect if i searched for my name i'd get results about me too

6/11/2009 9:37:58 PM

None of the Bing results for "RSXTypeS" are about you though

6/11/2009 9:42:46 PM

hahaha

6/11/2009 9:45:17 PM

Hehehe....

Googling with Bing: The easiest way to Google since Yahoo!
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1915736

6/28/2009 2:28:25 PM

Bird's eye view on the maps portion of Bing is pretty handy. I like it better than the full satellite zoom on Google maps. But you can't beat the street view on Google maps.

6/29/2009 12:36:34 PM

i've searched several times for a .NET class on bing and not gotten anything close to the msdn documentation

7/1/2009 2:58:20 PM

Like what? I just thought up several different .NET classes in wide ranges of topics and MSDN was always the first entry, even for pretty general terms like "SerialPort." Hell, even "String" returns the MSDN article 3rd (behind Java and Wikipedia) which is pretty damn good given how generic of a term string is.

7/1/2009 6:36:16 PM

i'm not to keen on this stuff but some weirdness was going on with my web browser last night

i was on free hotel internet (a common occurrence) and was using my work laptop, which is always updated and well maintained.

i was typing in normal web addresses that i always use (gmail, wachovia, facebook, etc) and i would automatically get routed through bing. i have never been there before, although i know about it and i found it very weird that while i was typing in legitimate web addresses, i was still being pushed to bing. i would not click the links in bing and would instead continue to type in the address and reload until the actual site came up.

what gives? this instance alone is enough for me not to want to use it. i found it very invasive and kind of creepy.

7/1/2009 9:34:37 PM

^it's a problem with the hotel's DNS servers. This happens to me occasionally when traveling (although usually I get routed to either Yahoo! or Google). Bing may be set as the default search provider on your machine, which would be why it gets redicrected to there when the DNS lookup fails.

7/1/2009 10:25:59 PM

Yahoo and Microsoft sign 10 year agreement to have Bing power Yahoo's engine

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8174763.stm

Yahoo's stock is getting killed right now

7/29/2009 10:51:53 AM

*yawn*


*stretch*


Just checked my Analytics for the month...

Google (organic)
4,589 72.01%

(direct) ((none))
1,118 17.54%

yahoo (organic)
204 3.20%

bing (organic)
199 3.12%

[Edited on July 29, 2009 at 11:10 AM. Reason : a]

7/29/2009 11:03:13 AM