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"Itt people think that salary automatically means no ot, which is false "

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I'm salaried with overtime available after 40, but fuck that noise. I don't wanna be like this guy:

4/2/2014 9:54:43 AM

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"Rarely work ot, I'm not compensated, but my boss let's us take comp time under the table. It may not be 1:1, but its nice when he doesn't have you enter a day off, or let's you bounce early. It works."

This is how I have to run my department; upper management will not offer any official compensation (time or $$) - simply because they 1) don't want to fuck with the paperwork regarding comp days and vacay days and 2) don't want to pay the salaried workers who actually 'work' more than 40hrs a week.

Its wonderful for people who understand the value of not having to track every fucking minute of their week and can be satisfied with this method.... however there are a few guys in my department who spend more time trying to keep up with their normal vacation, comp time, vacation not taken, comp time before vacation, and any other possible stupid fucking combination of time that ultimately leaves them making a mess of how many 'real' vacation days they have left over before their hiring anniversary (we don't carry over vacation). Only when it benefits them do they want to document the shit

4/2/2014 9:58:17 AM

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"You know.... Some might argue that if you're consistently working 50 to 60 hours a week, you are being abused as an employee."

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" no need to work 45 or 50 hour weeks consistently."

Are there really very many professional-level careers where the expectation is just 40-hours/week?

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4/2/2014 10:38:28 AM

^^yeah it works out pretty well. In another department, the manager expects you to work ot when needed but that's just part of the job, he doesn't turn a blind eye when you're out of days at the end of the year and you want to stay at home with a sick kid for a day, despite you havingnworked back to back sixty hour weeks.

Like I had said, I seldom put in overtime, but if I had to I wouldn't bitch too hard. I've gotten free time off during slow periods before. But again, its down to the manager. If my manager was a 40 hrs a week ball breaker I would have a totally different attitude.

4/2/2014 10:46:42 AM

I'm not allowed to work more than 40 hours a week

4/2/2014 10:58:33 AM

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"Are there really very many professional-level careers where the expectation is just 40-hours/week?"

yes, plenty

4/2/2014 10:59:39 AM

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"Are there really very many professional-level careers where the expectation is just 40-hours/week?"

I would think that's the rule, and not the exception, but I can find no data to support that

4/2/2014 10:59:56 AM

if I work over 40 hours a week, I earn "credit time", which is leave equal to the amount of time I worked. overtime has to be approved, but it is only 1.5X a Step 10 hourly rate, which caps out at $37.94, and my base pay is $35.52, so there isn't any reason to bother with OT.

4/2/2014 11:05:27 AM

I think there are a lot of places where in a week 40hrs +/-10 is the norm.

End up doing actually about 30 hours of work? Whatever... You're salary. It all washes out in the end.
End up doing 50 hours? Well, again, you're salary, so maybe don't expect overtime or anything. It washes out.


But again, in my opinion, when an employee routinely works 60 hours with no overtime, the mgmt needs to break down and hire another employee instead of trying to squeeze productivity out of their employee. Else, the employee might just burn out and find another job where he either works less or gets paid more.

I think the exception is perhaps program management. Work those guys to death, but compensate them for it handsomely.

4/2/2014 11:45:14 AM

yeah, 40 +/- 10 is probably pretty accurate.

my statement wasn't about working more than 40 hours sometimes, but if you are consistently working 45-50 or 50+ hour weeks then I don't understand why people tend to brag about it. IMO its not something to be proud of, its a sign that you need a new job.

4/2/2014 11:59:10 AM

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"But again, in my opinion, when an employee routinely works 60 hours with no overtime, the mgmt needs to break down and hire another employee instead of trying to squeeze productivity out of their employee. Else, the employee might just burn out and find another job where he either works less or gets paid more."

it's impossible for me to find better compensation right now - career-wise the hours are required as well at least for the next 2 years unless my role changes which is quite possible due to we were recently acquired

4/2/2014 12:07:59 PM

Man this thread makes me sad.... I'd be interested to see what fields most of you are in. A normal week for me is 60~70 hr. Week before last was pretty brutal, 7-10 or 11 almost every day. I don't earn overtime per se, however as I work for a bank my compensation is highly variable and skewed towards performance. Putting in long hours is just one of the unspoken aspects of the contract with the hope that it all works out at the end of the year.

4/2/2014 11:04:33 PM

I don't think I, personally, could stay in a job that required more than 40 hrs/week

4/2/2014 11:16:15 PM

I get paid time and a half for anything past 15 minutes over 40 hours. I work overtime frequently, but not regularly.

4/3/2014 3:36:01 AM

I got laid off and have posted everywhere even here...but all my background is in Mortgage and Investment Banking/Sales, and I am looking any and everywhere. If I could stay in NC I would prefer Raleigh Durham area, Wilmington, or Charlotte...I would KILL for a job, let alone OVERTIME!!!!

4/3/2014 3:45:50 AM