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If you want to talk about an awesome young coach doing everything the right way, look in Palo Alto at Harbaugh... damn, he is recruiting well...

9/22/2009 11:59:21 AM

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"ust calling him a douche. Does it really upset you that I (or random other person) don't like him?"


no, thats why I agreed that people could think hes a douche. Does it kill you to read? We had years and years of the "aww shucks" nice guy

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"How many wins does all that earn you again? Oh, wait, I'm being the dumbass."

sigh... you think wins are just a random flip of a coin? they come FROM somewhere... it takes parts to build the team that wins games... he is doing a phenomenal job on those parts... thats all he can do for now

mechanic: "hey Fat Tony... here is that new transmission you needed for your car... let me just put this in here..."
Fat Tony: "fuck that! you havent fixed my car!"
mechanic: "what? I have to put this new transmission in first..."
Fat Tony: "fuck that! you havent done shit! not shit!"
mechanic: "I cant fix it without this part, wtf??"
Fat Tony: "fuck parts! i expect it to be randomly fixed with nothing added, not this 'parts' bullshit"



[Edited on September 22, 2009 at 12:11 PM. Reason : d]

9/22/2009 11:59:48 AM

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No, what he can do is keep his mouth shut until he actually beats a team other than Western Kentucky. That's why he's a classless douche.

9/22/2009 12:11:57 PM

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He has coached all of three games FatTony. Quit acting like he is the Sidney Lowe of football.

9/22/2009 4:44:03 PM

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He's no Sidney Lowe. I've never heard Lowe make an ass of himself and his school in the press.

It has nothing to do with coaching ability. It has to do with being a complete douchebag when you have nothing to back up your douchbaggery.

I have never cared UT football or UT fans. But thanks to Kiffin, they have put themselves up there with Notre Dame as a team that I hope lose regardless of who they are playing. (Just for comparison, UNC is a team who's bus I hope flips on I-40. So they rank just above them.)

9/22/2009 5:14:37 PM

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"When all is said and done and we’re all left to wonder how a juggernaut of a Florida team could’ve blown a chance at a second straight national title by getting tripped up by Alabama/LSU/Texas/Penn State/H1N1/egos, remember how the Tennessee game played out. Tennessee bratty and brash head man, Lane Kiffin, did a masterful job of keeping his undermanned team alive in a game that should’ve been ugly early, and he also might have exposed the soft underbelly of the giant.

Of course Kiffin didn’t open things up offensively; he couldn’t. You don’t think he wanted to bomb away? You don’t think he’d have loved to push the Gator corners a bit and stretch out the field? His quarterback, Jonathan Crompton, has a nasty habit of throwing the ball to the other side, so Kiffin kept it conservative, let his tremendous defense turn the Gators into a one-man show, and then he hoped he’d get one huge break that could’ve turned the tide. It didn’t happen, partly because Tim Tebow made a Heisman-caliber scramble for a key first down, but the game should make Meyer worried about the future for a few reasons.

1) His offense suddenly went caveman. The loss of WRs Percy Harvin and Louis Murphy to the NFL is bigger than expected. There are several good teams that would be more than happy to take their cuts against the Gators if the offense is 24 carries of Tebow.

2) When Kiffin gets his quarterback, and he’s in the running for all the star prospects in the 2010 class, the balance of power could quickly shift. Tennessee might not have beaten Florida this year with a competent passer, but it would’ve come very, very close.

3) Suddenly, there are teams that have the type of excellent passers Tennessee is missing on a Florida schedule that was once seen as squishy soft. Ryan Mallett and Arkansas, with one of the most fun offenses in college football, have a puncher’s chance to pull off the upset. Georgia has decided to quit playing defense and become Texas Tech on offense, South Carolina finally has an attack worthy of the Steve Spurrier brand name, and Florida State’s Christian Ponder has become a smooth, polished passer who makes the most out of the weapons around him. Even if the Gators get through unscathed, they’ll likely get Alabama and QB Greg McElroy, who’s playing as effectively as any quarterback in the country, in the SEC title game. Meanwhile, Kiffin will be off frying ants with a magnifying glass.
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9/22/2009 5:57:40 PM

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so basically kiffin is like a mechanic who calls up all your neighbors and tells them your car is gonna blow their cars away tomorrow but the replacement trans isn't in yet and the differential is throwing interceptions to a football team whose primary achievement is having a hilarious mascot

9/23/2009 12:33:58 AM

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yeah, he said they were going to blow them out, thats exactly what he said

9/23/2009 12:38:44 AM

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good point

but i was right about the differential

9/23/2009 12:50:44 AM

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yeah, pretty much... the differential is a fucking mongoloid

9/23/2009 12:51:39 AM

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Coach is a good recruiter. Loses games b/c QB sucks. Coach makes an ass of himself in the media. Hmmm. Where have I seen this before?

Did Kiffin say that UT played their fannies off against UF? Just wondering.

9/23/2009 10:04:59 AM

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Tennessee has one of the most talented teams in the country, just not at quarterback. And they aren't as talented as Florida (Florida, USC, Texas, Oklahoma are kind of in their own league with Alabama and Ohio State not far behind).

9/23/2009 10:19:32 AM

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compared to all the other teams in Div I, yes they are very talented. Compared to where they were a few years ago, and where they should be, they have slipped. But last season was a big help, and this next class could end up being #1 in the country.

9/23/2009 10:40:06 AM

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I'm putting this in 2 threads, whoops



YOUR MOVE, LANE

(although it should be easy for him seeing as how hot his wife is)

9/23/2009 12:36:39 PM

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I love the ostrich looking old woman on the right, she doesnt move a god damn inch between pictures

9/23/2009 12:38:54 PM

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Lane Kiffin is the 2nd best coach on UT's staff.

9/25/2009 12:40:18 PM

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I agree with Jaybee's earlier post. Urban was not playing conservative at all and if he didn't have one of the best collegiate atheletes at QB he probably would have lost this game. Tebow carried the offense after Tennessee punched them in the mouth in the first half.

9/25/2009 10:06:56 PM

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^^Is that a troll post or a shot at Lane? Because his dad is pretty much the best defensive coordinator the NFL or football for that matter has ever seen. What is your point?

9/26/2009 2:13:41 AM

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yeah, thats like someone saying someone is the 2nd best poster on a message board that I frequent

9/26/2009 2:55:25 AM

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He's saying Monty Kiffin is better at his job than Lane kiffin is at doing his. I somewhat agree, but by next year that will change.

9/26/2009 12:58:31 PM

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with the players he inherited I think hes done about as good as a job as he can.

9/26/2009 1:07:56 PM

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If Monte's a better coach than Lane, then TN should watch out...because Monte went 16-17 as HC at State.

9/26/2009 1:11:32 PM

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hahahaha

9/26/2009 1:12:19 PM

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"Compared to where they were a few years ago, and where they should be, they have slipped."


Haven't you given shit to state fans about this in the past?

9/26/2009 1:17:23 PM

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?

you dont think Tennessee is down from where they historically have been?

9/26/2009 1:19:40 PM

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Do you think tennessee is entitled to a good team?

9/26/2009 1:36:26 PM

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semantics motherfucker... "entitled"? no. But looking at where they typically are over the history of the program, they are down right now.

9/26/2009 1:38:20 PM

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Sidney Lowe vs. Roy Williams

except Lowe actually beat Williams the first time they played

9/26/2009 1:40:42 PM

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Pretty good comparison right now.

Failed pro coach comes to college vs college coach with 2 championships.

9/26/2009 1:45:00 PM

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well, considering that theres only been one time its impossible to make that comparison... but you can compare recruiting where UT is now above Florida for next year (so far), Lowe has never matched Roy in pulling in a class.

9/26/2009 1:45:24 PM

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i'd take a win over some recruiting projections, any day of the week

9/26/2009 1:46:21 PM

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sigh... thats not the issue... you were claiming that Kiffin would be like Lowe and "win" the first time and then go to shit and my point was that since they have only played once there is no way to know that, SO, the only other thing to go by at this point is recruiting, which is even more applicable because most people (and of course most of you will disagree just to do it) feel that Tennessee might have won that game if they had a good QB on the roster... good QBs arent just spontaneously created, they come through recruiting

9/26/2009 1:49:58 PM

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"you were claiming that Kiffin would be like Lowe and "win" the first time and then go to shit"


no i wasnt...i was claiming a pro coach with a shitty record goes to college and faces off with a rival with 2 recent titles

only difference is, lowe actually beat williams, kiffin has not beaten meyer yet...i guess he's waiting for tebow to leave

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"most people...feel that Tennessee might have won that game if they had a good QB on the roster"


i think you mean most Tennessee fans, not most people

[Edited on September 26, 2009 at 1:52 PM. Reason : .]

9/26/2009 1:51:45 PM

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yeah, I'm sure thats exactly what you were thinking


nope, not talking about random message board posts or blogs... actual articles by real writers that follow college football.

[Edited on September 26, 2009 at 1:54 PM. Reason : d]

9/26/2009 1:52:56 PM

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no you're right, you know what i was thinking better than i do...

9/26/2009 1:53:50 PM

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why would you post it for that reason? Les Miles vs. Nick Saban... they both wear shoes. Kiffin and Meyer wear shoes! Ohhh shit!

[Edited on September 26, 2009 at 1:56 PM. Reason : d]

9/26/2009 1:54:51 PM

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its a pretty damn good analogy i came up with

but you'd rather talk about sports writers hypothetical past tense predictions, like they are somehow important

hey if the Panthers had a better kicker they might've won Super Bowl 38

BFD

9/26/2009 1:56:53 PM

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yeah, you are right, Crompton is a badass QB, in fact, I dont know how hes not getting Heisman talk with his 7 INTs in 3 games. We should start a campaign.


except a kicker doesnt touch the ball every single play on offense, QBs have a LOT more impact on a game than a kicker, you have to know that. If every single other thing is equal and it comes down to the kicker then its a huge impact. But otherwise I would take Tim Tebow over Kevin Butler anyday



[Edited on September 26, 2009 at 2:01 PM. Reason : d]

9/26/2009 1:58:02 PM

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cant believe State has lost a game since Clemson last year...RW hasnt thrown any picks!

9/26/2009 1:59:26 PM

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troll troll troll.


I never said that 0 int = always winning, but it is a lot harder to win 3 games when your qb throws 7 ints than it is when he doesnt throw 7 ints. But you will find some unrelated way to argue against that...

9/26/2009 2:01:20 PM

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"most people...feel that Tennessee might have won that game if they had a good QB on the roster"


HEY GUYS I'M SO OBJECTIVE I'M NEVER BIASED LIKE YOU GUYS

9/26/2009 2:02:04 PM

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how is it bias when I tell what OTHER people wrote? and even then they said MIGHT... just in a trolling mood today?

9/26/2009 2:03:11 PM

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are you just trying to convince yourself that Tennessee beat Florida or something? or are you just in your extra defensive tennessee-conspiracy mode today?

Kiffin talked shit, he lost, I gave a good analogy, you complained about how your pussy hurts


[Edited on September 26, 2009 at 2:05 PM. Reason : Jaybee1200 vs. TreeTwista10]

9/26/2009 2:04:19 PM

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Never said that, not going through all of that again, its all above, not going to waste my time with someone who is just trolling, but I KNEW that as we moved further and further away from that game people (in particular the ones saying that the game would be a 60 point blowout) would start doing this, TWW is so predictable.

Your analogy didn't tell anything except that it was a coach that came from previous professional experience who went against a coach with national championships... so? thats probably happened a 1000 times... hell, every week Bear Bryant coached it probably happened.

9/26/2009 2:08:43 PM

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ok let me try this one more time, and i'll phrase things so you don't get your feelings hurt and accuse me of trolling, instead of just shooting down all your weak arguments

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"most people...feel that Tennessee might have won that game if they had a good QB on the roster"


i would say some people, not most people...besides, you dont have a good QB on the roster, so its irrelevant

speaking of TWW being predictable..."we wouldve won if..." "we shouldve won but..."



[Edited on September 26, 2009 at 2:13 PM. Reason : also i had no idea Bear Bryant coached for 100 years...thats an impressive feat]

9/26/2009 2:09:58 PM

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how is saying that being bad at the most important position on the field an unreasonable statement? All Tennessee could do is run, they were completely one dimensional against the best team in the country and they still played them close, a lot closer probably anyone expected. So therefore if they had a decent QB and at least were able to give some sort of a hint of a passing game then that would have helped.


Where did I say he coached 100 years?

are you fucking drunk?

[Edited on September 26, 2009 at 2:15 PM. Reason : d]

9/26/2009 2:13:43 PM

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i could say if Florida had scored early in the 4th when they were driving and gone up 30-6, we wouldnt even be having this discussion

but then we'd both be talking about things that didnt happen and then both our arguments would be irrelevant, not just yours

am i drunk? wow you're a stupid stubborn fuck sometimes arent you

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"Your analogy didn't tell anything except that it was a coach that came from previous professional experience who went against a coach with national championships... so? thats probably happened a 1000 times... hell, every week Bear Bryant coached it probably happened"


how many years did it take him to coach 1000 games?

or are you talking about other coaches with 2 recent national titles coaching against their rivals who just left the pros with some of the worst winning percentages ever? doesnt matter, as long as it changes the subject from how tennessee lost to florida, right?

[Edited on September 26, 2009 at 2:18 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on September 26, 2009 at 2:20 PM. Reason : early in the 4th]

9/26/2009 2:15:59 PM

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changing the subject? YOU brought up Bryant coaching 100 years, not me. I simply responded you dumbshit. I said that it had happened 1000 times probably and then I said hell, it probably happened every week that Bryant coached. Nowhere does that say that Bryant was responsible for all 1000 of those times, nowhere did I say he coached 100 years.

But they didnt score because Tennessee made them fumble.

Troll troll troll

[Edited on September 26, 2009 at 2:22 PM. Reason : d]

9/26/2009 2:22:11 PM

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i guess if you continue to oversimplify and not understand my solid analogy, you'll continue to seem like you have no idea what you're talking about, and are simply a bitter UT fan continuing to make excuses about why you lost and why you shouldve won

its funny to see you keep digging yourself into a deeper hole...the bottom line is, and always has been, that tennessee lost...but i'm sure i'm not the only one getting plenty of LOLs about all your biased excuse making, Mr. Objectivity

[Edited on September 26, 2009 at 2:27 PM. Reason : excuses]

[Edited on September 26, 2009 at 2:28 PM. Reason : moral victory]

[Edited on September 26, 2009 at 2:28 PM. Reason : woudlve shouldve couldve]

[Edited on September 26, 2009 at 2:28 PM. Reason : if if if]

[Edited on September 26, 2009 at 2:28 PM. Reason : UF allows non qualifiers]

9/26/2009 2:24:13 PM

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its not an excuse, its simply saying that having maybe the worst two year starter at QB in recent memory at a major program didnt help, and its not just me, or Tennessee fans saying that, its pretty much every single recap of the game that read... I didnt see anyone state "Tennessee lost the game in spite of a brilliant performance by Crompton". In fact, I said over and over and over that Florida is a better team and I thought they would win by much more than they did, so thats the opposite of making an excuse.

9/26/2009 2:29:34 PM

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