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9/27/2009 11:37:15 PM

Ludes dudes.

9/27/2009 11:40:22 PM

So if I were to have allegedly done this in the past 4 years, what would I likely have been doing? Definitely not acid?

9/28/2009 12:00:49 AM

Poor quality acid.
According to a bunch of old hippies from the "everything was better in my day" mindset.

9/28/2009 12:05:16 AM

no telling what it was, probably low quality acid

9/28/2009 12:07:32 AM

probably just low quality lsd laced with strychnine.

that's the shit that makes your balls hurt.

9/28/2009 12:18:13 AM

if you got blotter, it might have been acid. If it was liquid or geltabs, it may have been 5-MeO-DIPT bought in bulk from China. got to love the age of the internet, where you can buy analogs in bulk from chemical supply companies in China without any questions.

the effects are very different, but how would you know if you've never done the real thing? It's like all the kids in the late 90's taking X pills containing MDA when they thought it was MDMA.

9/28/2009 8:13:50 PM

Yeah, I'm positive I've seen research chemicals even on blotter in the past few years, just as a warning folks.

The blotter "hit" should not be massive and bitter. This is definitely a cue that it is not something you want to be eating IMO (Research chems son).

9/28/2009 8:19:29 PM

haha @ the person who specifically told me they were avoiding this conversation

couldnt let it go could ya

9/28/2009 8:32:28 PM

so what kind of effect does "real" acid produce? I mean do walls really melt and little green men run around and scare you? I've always wondered about this as I have never done any hallucinogens

9/28/2009 8:38:34 PM

guy i know said he saw little demons sitting on the top of the curtains in his living room

not sure what kind of hallucinogens he was on, though

9/28/2009 8:40:09 PM

thats got to be the single most difficult thing to put into words. although i think whoever coined the phrase "trip" did a good job, and not because you feel like you've gone on a trip

anyways yeah theres lots of visual and audio shit... hearing colors, seeing music, all the crazy shit like that. then theres the stuff that goes on in your head once you start to peak. best described by saying that i think you could be deaf and blind at the peak and still take a ton away from it.

9/28/2009 8:42:23 PM

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"So if I were to have allegedly done this in the past 4 years, what would I likely have been doing? Definitely not acid?"

In my opinion it could have been real LSD. It is in existence right now, just not heavily available and the quality is probably inconsistent. If it comes on small, tasteless blotter hits then it is likely LSD (Or nothing).

What COULD it have been? In my opinion DOB is often used as a blotter adulterant. I don't know how pervasive it is, but I believe someone I encountered had this very thing on at least one occasion. Any other research chemical active at the same dosage levels as DOB can be used on large pieces of thick blotter (The DOB blotter "hit" is easily 4 times the size of an lsd blotter "hit" and is likely going to be thicker, it WILL have a chemical taste) or in other forms like gel-tabs. 5-MeO-AMT and AMT would be ones I'd really have expected in the past, the former might fit on blotter or in a gel-tab while the latter would not be found on blotter IMO due to dosage requirements. Of course, I've known of folks who intentionally ordered and consumed those (AMT and 5-MeO-AMT) when they were legal. So anyway, I have encountered individuals who have purchased and consumed this non-lsd blotter which I believe was DOB due to described effects and the fact that I found the blotter on erowid. It looked EXACTLY like this and the government has confirmed that DOB blotter is being sold in the US:

9/28/2009 8:42:23 PM

Nevermind, I forgot that I am 100% sure I know it was LSD. I HAVE PROOFS

9/28/2009 8:50:49 PM

thats awesome for you, acid is the shit. i tried my best to get my hands on some before entering drug treatment but it just didnt work out.

i also think that if acid had never disappeared (at least out of my life) that i would have NEVER moved on to harder things (for very long haha)

*harder is relative, i'm obviously talking physical here

9/28/2009 8:53:19 PM

anyone here tried DMT?

9/28/2009 8:54:30 PM

Only the 5-MeO variant mr. bufo alvarius provides. I came across one in the mexican desert and milked it son.

9/28/2009 8:55:51 PM

haha

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/daily/local/51842.php

9/28/2009 8:59:34 PM

Yeah, that's him. The old bufo alvarius is fucking huge.

9/28/2009 9:01:14 PM

i lived in the sonoran desert for a few months remember

and theres actually a place out by the organ pipe cactus national monument called the desert museum where you can lick them!!!1

9/28/2009 9:04:15 PM

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"Nevermind, I forgot that I am 100% sure I know it was LSD. I HAVE PROOFS"

did you make it yourself, or did you run MSGC on it?

9/28/2009 9:12:53 PM

I always hear it the other way son, GC-MS (Regardless, it's always nice to have access to such machinery).

9/28/2009 9:15:56 PM

gcdoublems

9/28/2009 9:16:55 PM

I think this link from the DEA's own internal newsletter is very telling.

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/programs/forensicsci/microgram/mg0508/mg0508.html

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"Over the past five years, there have been numerous reports of blotter paper laced with drugs other than LSD, usually designer tryptamines and phenethylamines. However, use of benzodiazepines (such as alprazolam) for this purpose is unusual. Submissions of blotter paper actually containing LSD are currently uncommon"

9/28/2009 9:18:07 PM

arent the dea memos so cool to read?? like where and when the shit is popping up, and in what forms and distribution methods? havent checked that out in years

9/28/2009 9:19:36 PM

ps is there any info in there on the heroin epidemic in NC? i honestly think more people do H now than did X back in 98-2000

9/28/2009 9:21:47 PM

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/programs/forensicsci/microgram/mg0608/mg0608.html

Quote :

"- INTELLIGENCE ALERT - LSD BLOTTER ACID MIMICS (ACTUALLY CONTAINING 4-IODO-2,5-DIMETHOXYAMPHETAMINE (DOI) AND 4-CHLORO-2,5- DIMETHOXYAMPHETAMINE (DOC)) IN LANTANA, FLORIDA The Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office Crime Laboratory Chemistry Section (West Palm Beach, Florida) recently received two different exhibits of blotter paper, suspected LSD (no photos). The exhibits were seized in Lantana (about 5 miles south of Palm Beach) by the Lantana Police (no further details). The first exhibit consisted of one-quarter inch square of blotter paper, orange on one side and blank on the other; analysis by Erlichs (negative), GC, and GC/MS indicated not LSD but rather 4-iodo-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine (DOI). The second exhibit consisted of a rectangular piece of blotter paper, blank on both sides and perforated into three quarter-inch squares; analysis (same techniques) indicated not LSD but rather 4-chloro-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine (DOC). The exhibits were not formally quantitated, but both had a high loading based on their GC chromatograms. This was the first ever submission of DOI in any form, and the third submission of DOC on blotter paper, to the laboratory. [Editor’s Notes: As previously noted, submissions of “blotter acid” actually containing LSD are currently uncommon in the U.S. Most such submissions actually contain either a hallucinogenic tryptamine or phenethylamine. More recently, the hallucinogenic phenethylamines (one of the “2C” or the “DO” compounds) are becoming predominant.] "

but IMStoned420 has proofs, so he must know a lot more than the DEA.

9/28/2009 9:23:15 PM

^^^^ It does not surprise me that a phenethylamine like DOB and other, likely even less desireable, DO compounds have started to be sold as LSD. At least Hoffman gave the world a little bit of time with such a beautiful chemical though. Aldous Huxley died on it, although I've always wondered if the IM injection he requested when he realized the time was near had time to take effect before he died.

9/28/2009 9:26:18 PM

i already said all this in one sentence in the 3rd post or so

9/28/2009 9:26:30 PM

all i have to say is go to Grassroots in Trumansburg NY There is alot of LSD.

9/28/2009 9:27:36 PM

people would would go to grassroots are the perfect marks to sell fake acid to

9/28/2009 9:29:27 PM

Tr00 But i deff found some decent shit there and had a good time.

9/28/2009 9:31:45 PM

damn you, be trolled

9/28/2009 9:32:23 PM

9/28/2009 9:34:01 PM

I read this as "Trippin' Island" for some reason. Figured it was a new reality show. Guess not.

9/28/2009 9:45:42 PM

Are the pseudo-LSD drugs you guys are talking about likely to be suspended in liquid and sold out of a vial as "acid" today?

9/28/2009 9:46:04 PM

I'm sure it could be suspended in a liquid, depending upon the substance and the liquid being used. There are a few major issues with this and I would not suggest taking a drug like that in solution (It can settle out and then you pull some off the bottom and get a super dose).

But I can tell you this, that liquid will likely taste absolutely disgusting if it isn't LSD and it's a research chemical. Not tasting awful isn't a guarantee or anything, but if it is extremely bitter and chemical-like in nature, I'd say it's not going to be LSD.

9/28/2009 9:48:45 PM

if the designer drugs are dissolved in a bottle of sweet breath, you probably couldn't taste it.

9/28/2009 10:06:13 PM

I'm sure you could do that. I definitely don't recommend consuming an unknown liquid.

I will say that some of the research chems are apparently particularly off putting in terms of their flavor and would be difficult to fully mask in my opinion. Of course, a wise salseman would pick a chemical whose flavor is easily masked and has effects relatively similar to those of the drug he's pretending to be selling (LSD in this case).

9/28/2009 10:24:49 PM

so LickHer. How was it?

9/28/2009 10:33:33 PM

haha, i came in this thread to post that DOI only takes 3 mg and is sold on blotter to poor unsuspecting nitwits but someone else already took care of that



what a terrible, terrible drug

9/29/2009 12:01:18 AM

some 2C-B blotter would be kind of nice though, almost preferrable. not sure how that fits on blotter though. apparently someone has figured out how to do it enough for the DEA to catch on to it.

9/29/2009 12:14:55 AM

goddamn, i've never heard of all this stuff you chemical engineers are talking about.

the only LSD we ever got in the late 80s and early 90s was always on blotter paper. a sheet of 100 hits was somewhat less than the size of a post-it note. the sheet printed with a design image and stamped into 100 perforated doses each roughly the a size about the area of a #2 pencil eraser. there were variants where larger blotter was sold as "four way" which could be taken as a large dose or divided into 4 hits.

the so-called "microdot" was generally weaker and often bogus.

"window pane" was a bit larger and thicker than a standard blotter hit, was translucent gelatin and some people claimed it was mescaline not LSD. I definitely got a heavier trip from it, but it didn't seem qualitatively different. i never had mescaline in any other context, so i can't say for certain it wasn't.

i never saw any liquid. supposedly the hippies in the 70s would get liquid LSD and drop doses into sugar cubes or straight into their eyeballs, but that was the just stuff of legend in my neck of the woods, or at least the low level doper crowds i hung out with.

9/29/2009 11:55:14 AM

ive gotten great microdot and liquid at a phish show lol


the liquid was sick as shit, dude was just like "stick out your tongue" and dropped a drop

*boing*

lost my shit for like 12 hours or so


what was the name of the gummy shit? had a texture like weed resin but made you trip balls

[Edited on September 29, 2009 at 12:23 PM. Reason : note: this was all over a decade ago, havent really messed around with anything like this in awhile ]

9/29/2009 12:19:08 PM

Fisher's LSD Test?

9/29/2009 12:53:18 PM

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"thats got to be the single most difficult thing to put into words. although i think whoever coined the phrase "trip" did a good job, and not because you feel like you've gone on a trip anyways yeah theres lots of visual and audio shit... hearing colors, seeing music, all the crazy shit like that. then theres the stuff that goes on in your head once you start to peak. best described by saying that i think you could be deaf and blind at the peak and still take a ton away from it."

this is the only worthwhile description of LSD you'll find unless you try it yourself

9/29/2009 12:56:56 PM

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""window pane" was a bit larger and thicker than a standard blotter hit, was translucent gelatin and some people claimed it was mescaline "

I wish you'd just stop. a good dose of mescaline is well over 300mg of the most godawful bitter substance you'd ever have the pleasure of trying to choke down. by the time you put enough gelatin into it to make it palatable, it would be the size of a jolly rancher.

9/29/2009 2:19:21 PM

He said some people claimed it was mescaline, not that it was.

He's just reporting his experiences and, big surprise, you're acting like a douche

9/29/2009 3:13:14 PM

^^christ, you're really reaching just to be a shithead.

did you completely miss the "some people claimed" and "i cant say for certain" in that statement???

9/29/2009 3:24:29 PM

since noone reads the 99th post

9/29/2009 3:25:42 PM