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10/18/2009 1:03:26 PM

http://www.fmrealty.com/site/property/search_mm.asp

10/18/2009 4:08:32 PM

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"greco"

i don't know a whole lot about architecture, so would somebody explain to me what a greco is

10/18/2009 6:10:14 PM

^ Basically supposed to remind you of Rome.

10/18/2009 6:12:42 PM

see, that's where I was confused. nothing about this house says "Roman" to me. I guess I have an untrained eye

10/18/2009 6:37:00 PM

greco means greek. Usually the two are used together (arches and columns etc) and styles are called "greco-roman" but just "greco" would mean greek not roman. I see arched windows.

10/18/2009 7:42:07 PM

ok, well maybe it was just the context that threw me off....

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"Beautiful home...has over 40+ flat screens, squash court, basketball court, pool and greco, etc..."

10/18/2009 8:03:00 PM

i think this is the most expensive home in raleigh:
http://services.wakegov.com/realestate/Account.asp?id=0012353&stype=owner&owner=winston%2C+robert&spg=1

unfortunately you can't really see it from the pic...but you can see it from the island hole on the CCC golf course. its an awesome house

[Edited on October 19, 2009 at 6:38 AM. Reason : ]

10/19/2009 6:37:43 AM

^you can see it from scotland st.

it is definitely huge.

10/19/2009 10:49:45 AM

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"Homes in wakefield like where the hurricanes owner lives blow any house inside the beltline away."

this just means you really don't know much about the houses inside the beltline... it's ok, it's better that you don't come looking or know about it. oh look a sparkly bobble!

10/19/2009 11:09:17 AM

i find that house to be ugly.

10/19/2009 11:18:07 AM

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"i don't know a whole lot about architecture, so would somebody explain to me what a greco is"

I think it means that this house features a vomitorium. A euphemism of sorts.

10/19/2009 1:04:49 PM

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"i think this is the most expensive home in raleigh: http://services.wakegov.com/realestate/Account.asp?id=0012353&stype=owner&owner=winston%2C+robert&spg=1 unfortunately you can't really see it from the pic...but you can see it from the island hole on the CCC golf course. its an awesome house"

I've lived in Raleigh all my life and work in the real estate business, and have known 2 people who have lived on that street at one time or another.

I would say that home is most assuredly in the top 5 or so. Lakeview Drive in Country Club Hills is probably the first street that comes to my mind when I think "Raleigh" and "most expensive homes". There are several other outlandishly large and expensive homes on that street as well, most on the same side of the street as that one, facing down on the golf course. The houses there that were torn down a decade or so ago to build the ones that stand now were quite impressive to begin with

Others? Barrington, in Cary behind Regency. MacGregor Downs isn't hugely impressive from a McMansion or ostentation standpoint, but it is a nice mature upper-crust established neighborhood with lots of well-to-do inhabitants.
All of the farther-out stuff such as Swans Mill, Hasentree, Chatsworth, Devon, Traemoor, Barony, and others are nice but have taken a big hit due to market conditions recently.

Most anything residence-wise higher than that is going to be so because it's located on a large tract of valuable land, not because of the value of the house.

10/19/2009 2:39:13 PM

If you're casing neighborhoods to burglarize, advertising on TWW might not be the best way to get started.

10/19/2009 4:13:04 PM

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"i think this is the most expensive home in raleigh: http://services.wakegov.com/realestate/Account.asp?id=0012353&stype=owner&owner=winston%2C+robert&spg=1 unfortunately you can't really see it from the pic...but you can see it from the island hole on the CCC golf course. its an awesome house"

That big joint on Oberlin is valued higher. $11.814 mill.




eta: ^Yeahs, it's got some huge...tracts of land.

[Edited on October 19, 2009 at 4:57 PM. Reason : []

10/19/2009 4:56:50 PM

that house is great.

one of my friends some how pulled his truck into the driveway and took a picture of himself outside of it.

10/19/2009 5:27:45 PM

Brent Road

10/19/2009 7:14:53 PM

yep, the big house on Oberlin supposedly has the highest tax value in wake county, so I was told.

10/19/2009 7:37:10 PM

Maybe I'm weird, but my dream home is the chateau from the end of the Dirty Dozen.

10/19/2009 7:49:07 PM

I love that Olde Raleigh neighborhood off of Duraleigh. You can also enter it from Edwards Mill I believe too.

http://www.olderaleigh.com/

All the roads have a Wynd at the end of them. Like #### City of Oaks Wynd.

Also, probably one of the biggest homes in Raleigh

http://www.6510newmarketway.com/

http://services.wakegov.com/realestate/Account.asp?id=0229495&stype=addr&stnum=&stname=new+market&locidList=&spg=9

Heated Area 16,867'
Total Value Assessed $9,460,007

10/19/2009 9:56:35 PM

I did some work on a house back in my construction days in the The Hayes-Barton area.
One of the houses had a POOL in its basement. Not some rinky-dink thing either.

10/19/2009 10:13:18 PM

^^property taxes due: $86,000

10/19/2009 10:23:08 PM

^^^yep, at the time of construction that was the largest and most expensive home in raleigh. we did (and still currently maintain) the plumbing there. they had 2mil+ just in antique furniture put in. spent $30k per tree to have full grown oaks brought in (and one fell off the truck, talk about expensive fire wood). some funny drama behind the place, the husband ran off with some girl, and the wife is currently shacked up with the architect there now. the tax value is only a fraction of what it cost to build.

the only house bigger was the daniels (ex news and observer people) off of white oak. roughly 22k sq. ft. i believe. the build cost/value wasn't nearly what the painter (northridge) house is, though. did the plumbing there, too.

i've kind of lost track of what the biggest/baddest house is currently. there's probably something bigger around by now, both of those homes are getting close to 8+ years old i guess by now? there was a span of a few years there in the late 90's-mid 00's where it seemed like those caliber houses were going up left and right. you've got to realize that while there might be some boxes out in the boonies technically bigger, the extravagant custom work and the land/location where these places are puts them a cut above.

also, in reference to the house on lakeview, that's not the first monster that was built there. the home that's pictured to be under construction on the tax website is a completely different home which would have been very impressive in it's own right (involved with the plumbing there, too). unfortunately, the home sustained fire damage by some high school kids screwing around inside before it was completed and it was a total loss. the owner, who had come here from out of state (texas iirc?) tucked his tail and went back home. he hadn't been very well accepted by the "old money" crowd, and the house burning up was the last straw for him i guess. finally, years later, the home there now was constructed. not a clue on the specifics for it, a different contractor did the work for that one.

[Edited on October 20, 2009 at 12:32 AM. Reason : .]

10/20/2009 12:30:21 AM

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"I love that Olde Raleigh neighborhood off of Duraleigh."

me too, I used to jog by there a lot when i lived in one of the apt. complexes nearby. The houses are beautiful, but I suspect it's the type of neighborhood where you'd be looked down upon for mowing your own lawn or doing manual labor.

10/20/2009 12:33:37 AM

in the scheme of things, olde raleigh isn't THAT special. certainly some very nice/expensive homes in there, but nothing that wild or overly impressive at all. olde raleigh's best distinction is being one of the first of the prestigious subdivisions/closed communities around here. the original version of wakefield, devon, falls river, etc. if you will...

10/20/2009 12:43:21 AM

^ agreed

10/20/2009 8:04:57 AM

While I'm sure these shiny new, 10K+ sf, stone/brick/etc. homes are damn nice, damn expensive, and probably super-luxurious on the inside, am I the only one who isn't inspired by them at all from the outside? There's little individuality-they all look kind of the same to me, either like an overgrown transitional, a modern interpretation of a country estate, or a Tuscan villa with a thyroid problem.

But then again I have a thing for old/historic homes, so there aren't a lot of modern places that get the job done for me. I guess that's why I like Hayes-Barton and some of the older homes in CCC.

[Edited on October 20, 2009 at 10:07 AM. Reason : Tatton Hall and its neighbors on Oberlin are quite nice too.]

10/20/2009 10:07:21 AM

^same here. what's more, is the majority of these newer homes lack the quality custom work/craftsmanship within the all the different subsystems of the home. they might look nice on the outside, but peel away the sheetrock or crawl under the place and it's the same junk you find in a 125k tract built pos. that's the difference in how most of these older homes are still around today, people cared about how they were built, not just the cosmetics of the finished product. the art of custom building is mostly lost on the latest generation of tradesmen. i blame it on two things:

- a general decline in the value society places on doing things the "right" way, despite any potential extra time/cost.

- people don't stay in homes like they used to, so they don't care about what's going to happen 20-30 years down the road. years ago, people built or remodeled homes planning to stay in them for many years, if not for life. now, how long does the average person/family stay in a home? 5-10 years maybe?

10/20/2009 7:48:35 PM

there goes the RAWR RAWR

still really rich regardless of modern or antique taste


[Edited on October 20, 2009 at 11:33 PM. Reason : prolly richa]

10/20/2009 11:32:10 PM

If you are driving down Jones Franklin from the Western/Hillsborough/JF intersection and turn left on Lundy right before the Athens light... then make your first left and go down that way. Some of those houses are incredible. The money people spend on those houses could make a man cry.

10/20/2009 11:57:05 PM

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"Homes in wakefield like where the hurricanes owner lives blow any house inside the beltline away."

Karmonos does not live in Raleigh. If you're talking about Jim Rutherford's house in Wakefield...its not that great. I was shocked at how tiny it felt inside and out and to know that he payed at least a million for it made me sick. However there is one house on that course that is awesome as hell. I know they couldn't find anyone to buy it a couple years ago, it had to be worth 3 mil.

10/21/2009 12:22:28 AM

the huge ass house in CCC mentioned in this thread is absolutely stunning at night from the backyard/lake.

10/21/2009 3:12:05 AM

i used to live in wake forest. this was years ago and i rode with someone to deliver a special package to karmanos. im sure it was him

10/21/2009 10:06:03 AM

The elder Karmanos doesn't live in Raleigh. His son does.

10/21/2009 11:26:52 AM

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"also, in reference to the house on lakeview, that's not the first monster that was built there. the home that's pictured to be under construction on the tax website is a completely different home which would have been very impressive in it's own right (involved with the plumbing there, too). unfortunately, the home sustained fire damage by some high school kids screwing around inside before it was completed and it was a total loss. the owner, who had come here from out of state (texas iirc?) tucked his tail and went back home. he hadn't been very well accepted by the "old money" crowd, and the house burning up was the last straw for him i guess. finally, years later, the home there now was constructed. not a clue on the specifics for it, a different contractor did the work for that one."

This one?


I knew the folks who lived on that lot back in the 1990s, different house that was razed to make way for the Villa that's there now. They moved away some time around 2001-2002 or so.

I'm not suprised that the "old money" crowd never accepted the new owner and his montrosity Italian terra cotta beast. Thing belongs in Florida or California maybe, not CCC. It just looks seriously out of place.

[Edited on October 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM. Reason : ,,]

10/21/2009 1:41:02 PM

^ I went to high school with the sons of the guy who built that.

The story is that he couldn't get into CCC so he built that monstrosity on the 18th hole. Made his money off of medical software.

10/21/2009 3:21:31 PM

^^ Worked on the swimming pool for that house, well into six figures

10/22/2009 3:17:12 PM

the mcconnell house on ccc has a pool that was into the millions, the equipment room alone is into the 6 figures. it sucks though how poorly engineered it is, so many hydraulic problems.

10/23/2009 7:48:10 PM

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" me too, I used to jog by there a lot when i lived in one of the apt. complexes nearby. The houses are beautiful, but I suspect it's the type of neighborhood where you'd be looked down upon for mowing your own lawn or doing manual labor."

Yeah, I noticed a lot of doctors in that neighborhood. I used to work in a pharmacy so I've seen an Rx from about 75% of the MD's in Raleigh.

10/23/2009 11:33:59 PM

^^^^^nah, the house further back up lakeview that's way down in the woods... it was pictured earlier in this thread. though i am familiar with that home as well. not sure who did the original work, but we've done some service calls there in the past.

i think my favorite "ridiculousness" on lakeview is the house we did the work in for the maynards (of golden corral). it's the one right across from CCC tennis courts with the copper roof. they bought/tore down the house next door to the one they built just for a freakin garden.

10/25/2009 10:17:55 PM

That co-founder of AMWAY (I think his name is Bill Britt) had a home in raleigh at one point that was supposedly valued around 30 million. Can't find it on the register of deeds website though.

10/26/2009 1:17:58 PM

G.O.D and I go on walks past that house often. i think it's ugly as fuck...

nah the one he's talking about is bigger and more behind that one and down hill as well. you can't really see it from the road.

10/26/2009 6:45:55 PM

I can not fathom why they would seek out a builder to design that shit, rather than going to a real architect

10/26/2009 9:25:43 PM

real live architects work for builders, too

10/27/2009 1:51:24 AM

i think he meant more like ones that wouldn't ever do something like ^^^

10/27/2009 1:05:36 PM

Ds97Z did you know the Stone's then?

ha ha welcome to my hood!!

Yeah McConell really kinda overdid this one! But he's always a good time to play golf with, or shot the shit.

10/28/2009 12:38:09 AM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/6463426/Burglar-Bunch-had-database-of-50-luxury-mansions-to-target.html

10/29/2009 7:48:51 PM

hey, that was my...i mean...tsk tsk tsk

10/29/2009 8:05:50 PM