This is why I never stop for accidents... Let "survival of the fittest" takes it's course.





ok, I'll admit that I have stopped in the past, but I don't go out of my way to cross medians/lanes of highway/climb trees/jump bridges/etc...

11/30/2009 2:48:00 PM

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"Let "survival of the fittest" takes it's course"

Not really sure how that applies. So if a highly respected professional with a PhD is one day driving down the road at the speedlimit, when some punk kid stoned off his ass
swerves in front of his car killing both occupants instantly, this is survival of the fittest??

11/30/2009 3:29:25 PM

^well, yeh it actually is

11/30/2009 3:34:44 PM

it is wrong to assume that intellect/education is a evolutionarily fit trait. look at birth rates among PHD holders and people with only a high school education, i'm sure you`ll find the latter is much higher. since these people with less intellect and education have contributed their genes in a more meaningful way to future generations, they are more fit- regardless if they are on welfare or not.

11/30/2009 3:38:51 PM

C'mon, don't devolve this into a Idiocracy thread.

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"Let it be a lesson to always take the time to make sure that YOU are safe before you try to help others. "

THIS

11/30/2009 3:56:05 PM

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"The DOT did nothing wrong. 440 was never intended for pedestrians."

11/30/2009 3:58:47 PM

nevermind, I didn't see what the moron posted.

[Edited on November 30, 2009 at 4:03 PM. Reason : \/ thanks]

11/30/2009 3:59:49 PM

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"The failure of the dot to put anything down has cost someone their life."

-gforce

11/30/2009 4:01:43 PM

the victim was a sex offender, guess he tried to redeem himself. sad nonetheless

11/30/2009 4:43:36 PM

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11/30/2009 6:25:20 PM

^^no way?! link?

12/1/2009 1:30:32 AM

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"The DOT said it thought by adding the fence to one side, it would be an indicator to not jump over the bridge."

ya think?

12/1/2009 1:39:58 AM

http://sexoffender.ncdoj.gov/details.aspx?SRN=011978S7

12/1/2009 7:44:53 AM

pwnt

sad story though. I do not see how the DOT could possibly be held responsible for this though

Surprised no one has brought up the age old addage look before you leap.

12/1/2009 7:48:10 AM

definitely karma

12/1/2009 8:10:35 AM

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"The DOT said it thought by adding the fence to one side, it would be an indicator to not jump over the bridge."

I don't know if any of you have pulled off the beltline in the dark, you can not see anything but the oncoming headlights, it is not like there are street lights around, it is really dark. If you factor in the fact it was raining they probably could not see a few feet over to see the fence, the opening between the bridges probably looked just like pavement.

12/1/2009 9:31:35 AM

http://sexoffender.ncdoj.gov/details.aspx?SRN=011978S7

He was 18. She could have been 15 with a pissed off dad. It's impossible to know.

Although with a 15 year sentence, that's not likely, but not impossible. Just ask that guy down the street serving a 35 year sentence for stealing a TV.


http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/117412/
Nevermind, he's out on parole now. Just in time to die.

[Edited on December 1, 2009 at 10:42 AM. Reason : .]

12/1/2009 10:35:50 AM

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"it is wrong to assume that intellect/education is a evolutionarily fit trait. look at birth rates among PHD holders and people with only a high school education, i'm sure you`ll find the latter is much higher. since these people with less intellect and education have contributed their genes in a more meaningful way to future generations, they are more fit- regardless if they are on welfare or not. "

Well since we put artificial positive pressure on the lesser elements of society to propragate (i.e increased foodstamp allowences per child, increase in welfare subsidies)
it is not nature selecting less educated or socially irresponsible people. I don't
think the answer is to throw these people on the street to starve but 200 years ago these people
would been the morons killed doing something stupid, cannon fodder in a war, or eaten by a bear in the wild.
This though is a conversation for TSB.

12/1/2009 11:12:22 AM

evolutionary result of this death trap: less altruism

12/1/2009 9:44:12 PM

dude who died, just after turning 18, he committed "indecent liberties with a minor". NC statute 14-202.1, means the girl (or boy) was no older than 13.... convicted on two counts. spent full 10 years in prison. gets out of prison and 4 years later dies trying to help an accident victim.

so... did karma "get" him? or did his tragical futile action help restore his previous negative karma?

12/2/2009 3:23:37 AM

Hi there, why dont you have a seat in Crabtree Creek...

12/2/2009 8:04:55 AM

^^ why do you prejudge this event to be tragic? Some might even call it justice.

12/2/2009 8:29:10 AM

Would you guys have been happier if all the articles and the thread title said "sex offender falls to death on 440 near crabtree"

12/2/2009 8:39:07 AM

Maybe the good samaritan saw a 10 yr old girl in the car involved in the accident and just wanted to "help out"

12/2/2009 8:41:21 AM

^ /thread

12/2/2009 8:45:05 AM

yeah, i'd say it's tragic.

it just seems like a life that had gone wrong at every turn. maybe some people are cursed. and maybe he's one of them.

12/2/2009 12:03:57 PM

I can't imagine the "oh shit" face that person made. I mean really, to jump over and then realize you are falling... wow.

12/2/2009 12:09:44 PM

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"did karma "get" him? or did his tragical futile action help restore his previous negative karma?"

I'd say that gravity got him.

12/2/2009 12:51:35 PM

i'd say the landing got him

12/2/2009 3:32:34 PM

if he was on the moon, he would have fallen from teh overpass, and just got back up and brushed the dust off.

so, i'm gonna have to say "gravity" is the winnar.

12/3/2009 1:09:26 AM

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"DOT to add safety fence at site of I-440 bridge death Raleigh, N.C. — The state Department of Transportation said Thursday it will add a second security fence at a Raleigh bridge where a man fell to his death last week. Raleigh police said Carroll Lee Eames Jr., 33, of Willow Spring, jumped over a barrier between the eastbound and westbound lanes of Interstate 440 near Glenwood Avenue and Six Forks Road to avoid oncoming traffic. Eames, who had been trying to help others following two wrecks, apparently did not realize there was a gap between the two bridges that opens below to Crabtree Creek, police said. He fell 70 feet to the creek and died. Todd Fletcher, 26, died in a similar fall at the same bridge in October 2005. DOT Secretary Gene Conti said the department is still investigating the fall and conducting a study of bridge crossings across the state but will proceed with the security fence out of an abundance of caution. It is expected to cost up to $50,000 and to be installed by Feb. 1. “We regret that this terrible accident occurred, and we’ll do whatever we can to prevent another such tragedy, here or anywhere else across the state,” Conti said Thursday. State highway administrator Terry Gibson has ordered a study of bridges across the state to determine whether safety hazards exist. The staff also is looking at policies in other states. “Preliminary data indicated that this is not a statewide problem,” Gibson said. “However, due to the fact that we have experienced two pedestrian fatalities at this structure since 2005, it would be prudent to go ahead and install protective fencing at this location.” Following Fletcher's death, the DOT placed a fence on the inside part of I-440 Inner Beltline but not on the inside part of the Outer Beltline. The DOT said it thought by adding the fence to one side, it would be an indicator to not jump over the side of the bridge."

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6544323/

It seems like a couple of "DANGER" signs would be a lot cheaper.

12/3/2009 3:59:40 PM

nothing better than a physical barrier, a couple of danger signs probably aint gonna help much in a scramble situation dude

otherwise the dude might have stopped to look and see what was on the otherside in the first place

12/3/2009 4:44:22 PM

Personally I wouldn't do dick about it. It's not their responsibility to make sure that every possible dangerous place that isn't intended for pedestrians is still safe for pedestrians.

12/3/2009 6:01:01 PM

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"The DOT said it thought by adding the fence to one side, it would be an indicator to not jump over the side of the bridge."

This is an illustration of why we will be defeated by China in the third world war.

12/3/2009 10:34:01 PM

I'm sure that they already have sleeper cells in place that will begin cutting down fences as soon as they're activated.

12/4/2009 12:47:45 AM

i wouldn't be surprised - they think of everything!

12/4/2009 1:32:19 AM

ok so he was jumping out of the way because a car was coming at him (according to the N&O article). if there was a fence wound he have not gotten hit by the car which was most likely doing highway speeds? either way dude was screwed.

12/4/2009 2:45:12 PM

^that actually makes no sense unless the car was driving on the (ample) shoulder.

12/4/2009 7:29:12 PM

^

12/5/2009 4:28:34 PM

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"The failure of the dot to put anything down has cost someone their life. Now the law suite they will have to pay out on will cost waaaaaaaaaaay more than what it would have cost them to fix this exposure. Oh by the way....this isn't even the first person to fall through this...."

Does no one understand this is a fucking freeway? Generally people dont get out of the car on the freeway, and name another place where you see a walkway between two freeway overpasses in north carolina. You dont, because for the most part there is no need for one. Its just an unfortunate circumstance, not the fault of the dot or the state or anything like that. no one is at fault here.

12/7/2009 2:50:48 PM

^ I'd say that the guy who stopped his car on the freeway, got out, and then hopped a divider without looking is at fault here.

12/7/2009 2:54:47 PM

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"It is expected to cost up to $50,000 and to be installed by Feb. 1."

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

It's going to cost them $50k to put up a fence?

I'll do it for $45k. Holy fuck.

12/10/2009 7:09:37 PM

Why the hell didnt the city put a fence on the other side also after the 2005 death? That might be grounds for a lawsuit. It seems pretty stupid to put it up on one side only....They knew of the problem in 2005 and failed to fix it completely.


[Edited on December 12, 2009 at 1:28 AM. Reason : w]

12/12/2009 1:26:07 AM

ordinary road signs along the interstate run upwards of $30k, so 50k for a fence is pretty reasonable

[Edited on December 12, 2009 at 1:47 AM. Reason : in comparison]

12/12/2009 1:47:11 AM