1/7/2010 7:40:52 PM

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" Typical Job Interview Questions What is your greatest weakness? - Best Answers What is your greatest strength? - Best Answers Describe a typical work week. - Best Answers Do you have psychological problems? - Best Answers Do you take work home with you? - Best Answers How many hours do you normally work? - Best Answers Are you fundamentally secure in your human setting? - Best Answers Whats your favorite color. - Best Answers "

1/7/2010 7:41:44 PM

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"so coming to grips with your gender is just another problem that an average person might have like dealing with acne, etc i dont know what planet you people live on, but gender is one of those, kinda big deals, people have deal with, and a person who is having difficulty with it should get help but they shouldnt get an executive's job perhaps you'd have a transgender person doing a surgery on you, maybe he might struggle with his identity as a doctor half way through the surgery and instead become a mortician but i dont see how a transgender person can even get through an interview we all know what its like, you sit down and they ask you a bunch of questions and you try to sound like you know what you're doing Q: "whats your name?" A: Pat Q: "whats your gender?" A: "i dont know" interview over, in my opinion"

You make is sound like every transgender person is just a drama queen. Not the case. Typical southern conservative "christian" view though.

The answer to the 2nd question would obviously be "i'm transgendered" but it would never be asked anyway.

Just like I said with the clintons, sex and sexual relations have nothing to do with ability to do a job. Thats private.

1/7/2010 7:45:55 PM

1/7/2010 7:46:29 PM

ambrosia you are violating tww law
this is what im talking about, transgendered people do not respect gender, they dont respect the law,

1/7/2010 7:47:42 PM

1/7/2010 7:48:13 PM

As long as she is qualified for the job, why does it even matter? And it sounds like she's qualified for the job.

1/7/2010 8:07:24 PM

So Lafta wasn't a big fan of the RuPaul Show?

1/7/2010 8:26:58 PM

some of you are fucking downright cruel

1/8/2010 12:56:12 PM

^
i think it's more stupendous ignorance than cruelty

1/8/2010 1:38:23 PM

"stupendous ignorance" would be an acceptable excuse if we are talking about pakistan, somalia, croatia, or some other country where people don't have access to knowledge, are backward, and judgmental due to their lack of knowledge and backwardness.

but in the US? if someone doesn't know about what exactly transgender means and how the vast majority (all?) of transgenders are not at fault for their conditions, they can research it. people can't help how they are born physically and/or hormonally, and people are not at fault for what parents did to them to 'correct' the situation if they were born with ambiguous genitalia.

hence, the comment about such "stupendously ignorant" people being 'cruel'.

1/8/2010 1:52:15 PM

^if someone is born without arms then its "not their fault", but would you hire them as a bus driver to drive you kids around?

1/8/2010 2:35:08 PM

LAFTA STRIKES AGAIN

no seriously, what part of a person being transgendered makes them unable to do this job in the same way that a person with no arms couldn't drive a bus?

Have you seen her credentials?

1/8/2010 2:38:13 PM

an apt analogy...

i think a better one though would be. would you hire a woman without a penis to rail some chick in her vagina?

1/8/2010 2:39:42 PM

ok let me revise

I believe someone who is transgender is dealing with massive psychological problems and needs a lot of assistnace and care to get through life without going crazy
why would we put this person in an important govt job where they take on a lot of responsibility.

a good comparison is to how astronauts are chose, every detail of their background, education, mental and physical fitness, etc is checked because that job requires all around solid person
well i think an important govt position requires an all around solid person as well, maybe not astronaut level, but still very strong in all areas,

and where transgendered people fail is in mental and physical health in my opinion
if you dont agree then i would ask you who would wish to be transgender, and i would guess no one but mentally ill people


[Edited on January 8, 2010 at 2:47 PM. Reason : .]

1/8/2010 2:42:03 PM

That news lady up there seems like a real cunt.

I bet she's packing.

[Edited on January 8, 2010 at 2:50 PM. Reason : dong]

1/8/2010 2:45:06 PM

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"Amanda Simpson (age 48) is the Senior Technical Adviser to the Department of Commerce, appointed by the Obama Administration.[1][2][3] She is the second transgender political appointee in any administration, with the honor of the first belonging to Dylan Orr. [4][5] Amanda will work in the Bureau of Industry and Security. She received her MBA from the University of Arizona in 2001, her Master of Science in Engineering from the California State University, Northridge in 1988 and her Bachelor of Science in Physics from the Harvey Mudd College in 1983.[6] She was a test pilot who flew the T-39 and A-3 Sky Warrior in those planes' development stages for Hughes Aircraft.[7] Simpson also is on the board of the National Center for Transgender Equality and Simpson was the unsuccessful Democratic candidate for Representative of District 26 in the Arizona House of Representatives in 2004.[8]"

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"I believe someone who is transgender is dealing with massive psychological problems and needs a lot of assistnace and care to get through life without going crazy"

1/8/2010 2:51:34 PM

you are confusing humanity with practicality
im humane and would help transgendered people with advice and what not
but i would realize the practical limitations to their condition, that is the difference between "you people" and me
i can see things for what they are, some things are acceptable some are not, you people have bought the whole value meal where you have to accept everyone and every "personal" decision they make and treat it all as if its normal

1/8/2010 2:58:44 PM

^ I dont know what the fuck you just said, little kid. But you reached out and touched a brother's heart.

1/8/2010 3:00:24 PM

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"but i would realize the practical limitations to their condition, that is the difference between "you people" and me"

But you have yet to explain what their psychological "condition" has to do with their job. And if they went through a sex change surgery, it sounds to me like they solved their issues with depression.

There are millions of people with some form of depression, many people get help, many people take drugs. Should they not be eligible for a job? Should they not be eligible for the job this transgendered got? I don't think so. As long as they're getting help and their problem doesn't affect their ability to do the job, I don't see a problem.

Your whole is issue is the dick turning into a pussy. What does gender confusion have to do with the ability to do the job? Could it be considered a psychological condition? I suppose, I'm not a psychologist, and I don't think you are either. But if the condition has no impact on anyone besides themselves, what's the issue?

There is none. The only issues are with homophobes and ignorant people, such as yourself.

1/8/2010 3:31:15 PM

lafta is one of my favorite people on TWW

1/8/2010 3:49:08 PM

if two people apply for a job and they are identical except for one deals with depression the other does not, the one without depression should be hired
doesnt mean you execute the depressed one but to build a stronger society and country you encourage the strong and give care to the weak to rehabilitate them

jobs often require much more than the job description can tell you, like interpersonal relationships which creates a strong working environment,
if someone is dealing with depression or some other psychological problem it will affect their work performance one way or the other, therefore it should be considered when deciding where they belong

some might get this confused with the civil rights movement, where black american had to fight for equal rights, the only difference here is that a black and white person can have equal ability and equal mental and physical health
whereas a transgendered person cannot have equal physical and mental health with a normal person, so there is an inherent difference

1/8/2010 3:51:19 PM

^ except i don't think there are any screening questions dealing with depression soooooo

1/8/2010 3:54:50 PM

1/8/2010 3:56:30 PM

1/8/2010 3:57:43 PM

haha, the supporters of transgender people have unique and fitting rebuttals

1/8/2010 3:57:49 PM

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"they will use the gay/lesbian/transgender bathroom we really need one of these"

What does someones sexual preference have to do with taking a shit?

1/8/2010 4:06:54 PM

when you answer, what does someone's sex have to do with taking a shit, then you'll answer your own question as well

[Edited on January 8, 2010 at 4:07 PM. Reason : .]

1/8/2010 4:07:40 PM

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"whereas a transgendered person cannot have equal physical and mental health with a normal person, so there is an inherent difference"

WTF?

So, all transgendered people are mentally inferior to all normal-gendered people? Did you really just claim that?

And I don't where you get the bit about "physical health". Having ambiguous or altered genitalia does not diminish your "physical health". Being born with ambiguous/weak fingers, arms, legs, heart, etc does.

1/8/2010 4:19:16 PM

^i didnt say mentally inferior which implies intelligence inferiority
i said they have a mental health issue, & their mental health problems arise from their physical health problems, its not a blessing to have a hormone imbalance so severe that you dont even know your gender

geez people, its like you have a PHD in ignoring the obvious
you all wanna be nice, thats fine, but dont ignore or deny the simple truths

1/8/2010 4:29:14 PM

any gay black muslim nazi transgender depressed sociopathic fuckwad would be more effective than lafta at any given job for the sheer fact that there is no way they could be as big of a blithering idiot as he is.

1/8/2010 4:32:17 PM

^you went a long way at shoring up your credibility with your childish comment there, way to go

1/8/2010 4:33:32 PM

it's called hyperbole

1/8/2010 4:37:25 PM

so, by your logic, gay people should be lower on the employment ladder as well, correct? i mean, they must have mental problems, being attracted to the same sex and all.

1/8/2010 4:45:13 PM

Life is a game that no one wins
And you deserve a headstart the way you're life's going

1/8/2010 4:47:43 PM

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"[quote]whereas a transgendered person cannot have equal physical and mental health with a normal person, so there is an inherent difference"

WTF?

So, all transgendered people are mentally inferior (health-wise, not intelligence-wise) to all normal-gendered people? Did you really just claim that?

1/8/2010 4:51:39 PM

^ You're kicking a puppy. Just stop.

1/8/2010 4:52:19 PM

With each response that lafta provides, he just keeps showing how bad he would be in a managerial position. His responses would lead to nothing but a lawsuit for a company.

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"if two people apply for a job and they are identical except for one deals with depression the other does not, the one without depression should be hired doesnt mean you execute the depressed one but to build a stronger society and country you encourage the strong and give care to the weak to rehabilitate them"

Impossible scenario. No two people are identical, ergo, your example is moot. There's a reason why you do an interview, to try to find out more about a person, how they interact with you and what not. If the "normal" person is an asshole and the depressed person isn't, I'd give the job to the depressed person, as long as they're qualified.

Besides, I wouldn't know if the person is depressed unless they came out and told me. I probably wouldn't know if a person is transgendered, unless I looked for name changes or requested their birth certificate at the interview, which I doubt any manager would be looking for.

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"like interpersonal relationships which creates a strong working environment, if someone is dealing with depression or some other psychological problem it will affect their work performance one way or the other, therefore it should be considered when deciding where they belong"

And what proof do you have that a person dealing with depression or gender confusion won't be able to function in a work environment? Unless the person comes out and starts telling people that they have a "problem," I don't see how being transgendered would be a problem. Most people will just think s/he is a feminine male or a manly woman, which there are plenty of normal people who fall under being a feminine male or a manly woman.

1/8/2010 5:07:31 PM

^although your post is too stupid to deserve a reply, its no worse that the rest of the replies so i'll respond

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"No two people are identical, ergo, your example is moot."

really, there aren't two exactly identical people, down to every single molecule in their body?

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"If the "normal" person is an asshole and the depressed person isn't, I'd give the job to the depressed person, as long as they're qualified."

you are discriminating against an asshole cause he would affect the work environment, if you believe that someone's depression can also negatively affect the working environment then you should also take that into account

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"I probably wouldn't know if a person is transgendered,"

well the whole country knows about this particular transgender person obama hired, so if its out in the open why is it not a factor in the hiring process

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"And what proof do you have that a person dealing with depression or gender confusion won't be able to function in a work environment?"

i didnt say they automatically CANNOT function, i just said it would not be something to ignore as if its ok or as if its not going to affect their work or the working environment

1/8/2010 5:26:10 PM

and by the way i dont think depression is nearly as big a deal to whether someone gets hired or not as being transgender would be
a depressed person can pop some pills and be relatively ok, but its still something to keep in the back of your mind
i wouldnt hire someone with depression be a counselor or a nuclear warhead button pusher

1/8/2010 5:28:36 PM

dude HE has already become a SHE.

so WhereTF are you getting this depression thing from? HowTF do you know she is depressed? Chances are very high she is not not, because she has already solved her 'problem' as she saw fit.

1/8/2010 5:30:31 PM

i never said he/she was depressed,
i keep getting asked if depression would/should be a factor in getting a job or not

1/8/2010 5:34:53 PM

you probably would never know if someone was depressed or not, so there'd be nothing to keep in the back of your mind. also:



[Edited on January 8, 2010 at 5:46 PM. Reason : .]

1/8/2010 5:40:32 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-jk9ni4XWk

this man describes it well, tune in to 18:30

1/10/2010 12:12:21 AM

no

1/10/2010 1:04:50 AM

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"really, there aren't two exactly identical people, down to every single molecule in their body?"

I'm assuming you're being sarcastic, which proves that your example is moot.

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"you are discriminating against an asshole cause he would affect the work environment, if you believe that someone's depression can also negatively affect the working environment then you should also take that into account"

An asshole adversely affects other co-workers. A person who is depressed really doesn't affect other co-workers. If their depression gets into the way of their work, then that's a totally different story.

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"well the whole country knows about this particular transgender person obama hired,"

And who cares if the whole country knows, besides closed-minded individuals such as yourself who believes that a person's choice regarding an elective surgery? You've yet to actually describe WHY their choice affects their ability to do their job, besides saying, "because."

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"so if its out in the open why is it not a factor in the hiring process"

Because it's irrelevant to the person's ability to do the job...

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"i just said it would not be something to ignore as if its ok or as if its not going to affect their work or the working environment"

And again, why is it something that MATTERS? You haven't explained how the guy being a transgender will affect his ability to do his job... How does THIS claimed mental "problem" affect his job?

And as to the working environment, the only people it affects are people who are insecure around transgendered people. If you wouldn't higher a transgendered individual for a job because they might make people "uncomfortable," would you higher a homosexual individual because he/she might make people "uncomfortable." If people have a problem with a transgender's choice or a homosexual's choice, it's their fucking problem to get over.

In fact, to NOT higher someone because they're transgendered is illegal, as it's discrimination. So not are you just WRONG, you're also risking a fucking lawsuit.

[Edited on January 10, 2010 at 1:25 AM. Reason : .]

1/10/2010 1:25:27 AM

^ Not to mention, the reason many/most transgendered persons are "messed up in the head" is because society shuns them, discriminates against them (YOU CAN'T DO THIS JOB), ridicules them, and even physically abuses them.

If people were more accepting of conditions people have no control over, then such people with the conditions wouldn't be so depressed.

1/10/2010 6:28:54 AM

^^In AmurriKKKa, it's still very very legal in almost every state to discriminate on the basis of real or perceived gender identity or expression.

Also I just found this video on the Interwebz that shows what the world *should* be like: http://wehappytrans.com/news-media/dear-media/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbgmKLmWAdU

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[Edited on February 4, 2013 at 6:49 AM. Reason : LEARN YOUR CRAZYCODE]

2/4/2013 6:49:09 AM

They're starting to figure it out young, to their benefit: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/transgender-at-five/2012/05/19/gIQABfFkbU_story.html

2/12/2013 4:49:01 AM