Pg 2 of this stupid shit.

1/17/2010 1:48:32 AM

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"some of you people can't stand to "lose" an internet argument (hardy har, the irony, blah blah blah)"

Sounds like you are the one who is afraid to lose the argument. Everyone has sided against you and you still try to defend yourself. Face it you are wrong and a douchebag for trying to leave dog shit on someone's property.

1/17/2010 2:10:04 AM

I thought he was just trolling, but the amount of arguing either means hes a very dedicated troll, or just some kind of moron who calls people republicans if they don't like dog shit all over their land.

1/17/2010 2:21:53 AM

im guilty of this too as every time i meet a total dumbass i assume they voted for obama.

1/17/2010 9:39:27 AM

how could an intelligent person have voted for a ticket that had Sarah Palin on it?

while I may not agree with obama on pretty much anything, his IQ does not hover around room temperature at least.

1/17/2010 9:49:38 AM

agreed.

1/17/2010 9:54:45 AM

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"hopefully next time you'll encounter one of the drunk fishermen on the island who'd rather teach you a lesson physically about property rights."

Yeah, hopefully I will.

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"while simultaneously thinking he should be able to store his shit on some guy's lawn"

Did you even read the thread?

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"Sounds like you are the one who is afraid to lose the argument"

You tell me what the argument was and how I lost it?

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"Face it you are wrong and a douchebag for trying to leave dog shit on someone's property"

It depends on what you mean by leave. This is the actual law

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"Sec. 4-23. Removal of excrement required. No owner, keeper, or person in charge of the possession and/or control of any dog shall cause or allow the dog to defecate or otherwise commit any nuisance on any street, sidewalk, park, beach strand, public right-of-way, or other publicly owned area, or upon any private property without permission of the owner or occupant of the property, unless the excrement is immediately removed by said owner, keeper, or person in charge of the dog and deposited in an appropriate waste container. "

Is a plastic bag not an appropriate waste container? Additionally, this is from the town as well
http://www.emeraldisle-nc.org/PDFs/EI-VisitorsGuide.pdf

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"The Town has a pooper-scooper law that is enforced. We ask that you be courteous to others and use the containers provided at the accesses for the deposit of feces. There are containers located on the beach and street side of the town accesses for your convenience"

There is no time element specifically on this one and the actual law is vague about the container.

Additionally, the question is about nuisance and the idea of what sort of use the public has of the dry sand above the high tide line. Is it is a nuisance to these folks who are doing nothing more than sitting on their porch 150 yards away? Hardly. Now, since I know you DBs will say "remove immediately" doesn't mean leave in a bag, I ask you to consider this: If I am not walking but am laying on the beach with my dogs, one of the dogs takes a shit, does a bag not suffice to store the poo until I decide to leave the beach? In this instance, if I am in the dry sand then I am on this owners property and the poo will be in a bag. This bag won't be causing a nuisance to the owner.

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"or just some kind of moron who calls people republicans if they don't like dog shit all over their land"

Try to use your head. I already explained the thread title. The whole point isn't so much to talk shit about people I think are republicans (durr, I'm a libertarian leaning centrist), it's more just to post some stupid story and let wolf web proper be all high and mighty about it.

1/17/2010 10:29:13 AM

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"im guilty of this too as every time i meet a total dumbass i assume they voted for obama. "

murf murf murf murf hey shut the fuck up

1/17/2010 10:29:44 AM

Rofl, funny law

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"Sec. 4-24. Running at large. It shall be unlawful for a person owning or having custody of any dog willfully to permit or allow such dog to run at large in the town, which includes the beach area and dunes. (Ord. of 11-14-83) State law references: Bitches at large, G.S. 67-2; dogs running at large at night, G.S. 67-12. "

1/17/2010 10:40:14 AM

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"There is no time element specifically on this one and the actual law is vague about the container. "

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"No owner, keeper, or person in charge of the possession and/or control of any dog shall cause or allow the dog to defecate or otherwise commit any nuisance on any street, sidewalk, park, beach strand, public right-of-way, or other publicly owned area, or upon any private property without permission of the owner or occupant of the property, unless the excrement is immediately removed by said owner, keeper, or person in charge of the dog and deposited in an appropriate waste container. ""

How fucking obtuse are you? Do you really think immediately is a vague term? Also, you obviously knew where the plactic bags are located on the EI beach accesses, so I'm certain you've seen the trash cans that are right beside them. Regardless, the law says that you have to remove the waste from the property AND dispose of it in an appropriate waste container. You did neither.

1/17/2010 11:37:59 AM

Entitlement complex out the ass

this has to be Chase

1/17/2010 11:51:52 AM

in either case you're either leaving dog shit on their property or littering by leaving your trash(a plastic bag) on their property

1/17/2010 12:24:02 PM

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"How fucking obtuse are you? Do you really think immediately is a vague term?"

Look you ape, I already addressed your dumb ass point. Can you even read? I've already acknowledge multiple times the "ownership" of the property. Please continue ignoring the rest of the issue relating to the PUBLIC BEACH. Please ignore the other points I made regarding the point of nuisance and the other perfectly valid scenario I described if it helps you feel like you're the man.

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"Also, you obviously knew where the plactic bags are located on the EI beach accesses"

This is fucking hilarious. I currently live about 1/4 mile from the water and am on the beach multiple times a week, and you're trying to act like you know more about this than me? Well, I guess this is the god damn wolf web, so I shouldn't be surprised. I TOOK BAGS WITH ME SO I COULD PICK THE POOP UP DIPSHIT. Apparently, they take all the on beach garbage cans off at some point around Oct/November as they were here when I got here mid-Oct, gone at some point later. After you enter the beach from my neighborhood there are public accesses (with trash cans, no poop bags) about 100 yds west (in the direction we walked) and about 1/4 mile east. After that, I'm not sure where the next public access is as it isn't marked from the beach. It's simply not an unreasonable expectation, in lieu of regularly placed on the beach garbage cans, and considering the deadness of the beach (ie, no kids playing, etc) for me to leave the poop bag at a spot and pick it up later on my way off the beach.

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"Regardless, the law says that you have to remove the waste from the property AND dispose of it in an appropriate waste container. You did neither."

No, I disposed of the waste in a reasonable manner.

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"in either case you're either leaving dog shit on their property or littering by leaving your trash(a plastic bag) on their property"

Again, please stay up. The question is, how much "access" does the public have to the dry sand area above the high tide line. It's an open question, and only douche boob like eleusis wll cling to the 'ITS THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY, GET THE FUCK OFF" argument.

Let's keep in mind here, these same able bodied people have left the bags of shit they claim other people put there, left rusted tent canopies, rusted beach chairs, and 20 Christmas trees as well.

1/17/2010 12:57:56 PM

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"COOL THREAD BRO"

1/17/2010 12:59:13 PM

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"COOL THREAD BRO"

1/17/2010 4:36:10 PM

this has to be a troll thread.

1/17/2010 4:43:26 PM

I should go litter is property with bags of poop and tell him i will come pick them up at a later date when I can get around to it.

1/17/2010 5:21:34 PM

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"Statistically speaking, the odds are I'm right. It's less about them being old white rich people though and more about the hostile way they chose to deal with the situation. Not that liberals would have been exactly different, I just have an image of a "stay the off mah damn land, get out of my life" type of person being a Republican."

What are your odds based on, dipshit? John Edwards would be a prick if you left dog shit in his front of his million dollar beach house too.

1/17/2010 5:27:28 PM

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"this has to be a troll thread."

Why, because you don't have a legitimate response to the vagueness of the law? How about this, the high winds today have made the sea rougher than I've seen it in a very long time. Like, the waves we're breaking in 5-6 different spots 50 feet into the water. We walked today and because the beach doesn't have a berm and isn't very steep, the high tide mark was touching the dunes in some spots. For the piece of property in question, the high tide mark was about 10 feet from where the dune actually started to rise, but it was far enough up so that they spot where we actually put the bags down was within the mark. So does the high water mark change from a day to day basis? And again, how does this relate to the tradition of allowing the public free use of the beach up to the dunes? I was hoping damn republican would be out there today, I was going to idle around in front of his property and hope he tried to tell me to get off.

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"I should go litter is property with bags of poop and tell him i will come pick them up at a later date when I can get around to it."

If you were walking your dogs around the neighborhood and said you'd be back by within the hour on your way home and you put the poop at the edge of the yard next to the road, I'm going to wave and tell you no problem. I'll be keeping a mental picture of you and your dog and if the poop bag is still there hours later, then I'll be keeping it and trying to determine where you live. It's no wonder our country is going down the shit hole, everything has to be so fucking polar.

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"What are your odds based on, dipshit?"

Are you really questioning if the odds are greater that a rich white guy is a Republican?

1/17/2010 5:35:37 PM

i vote that you take the dog shit (or human shit) put it in a bag, place it on the door step of so called "republicans" take a lighter, light the bag, and run away with your dogs and hide behind a bush laughing when the old man tries to put it out with his boots. then shoot the old man for ruining your plan you developed with your dogs and ruining your time with them.

1/17/2010 5:39:36 PM

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"Are you really questioning if the odds are greater that a rich white guy is a Republican?"

Find me a legitimate source for your odds. It sounds like ignorant statement based on your own prejudices.

It's like someone insisting that it must have been black people that broke into their house.

1/17/2010 5:58:26 PM

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"within the hour"

what about within 2 hours? or 3 hours? what if i'm going for a really long walk. What if one day i forget it?

1/17/2010 6:04:59 PM

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"It's no wonder our country is going down the shit hole"

Hahaha...America is doomed b/c you can't leave dog shit wherever you please on the beach.

1/17/2010 6:07:21 PM

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"Find me a legitimate source for your odds. It sounds like ignorant statement based on your own prejudices."

Is a Gallup poll legit? You can't be this dumb can you? Rich...white. The odds are greater than 50% that this guy is a Republican.

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"what about within 2 hours? or 3 hours? what if i'm going for a really long walk. What if one day i forget it?"

Generally speaking, if you engage me in conversation while I'm chilling on my porch and ask if you can put it there and it's in a bag, I'm going to say yes and most likely forget about it. If I see it there the next morning I'm going to be like "wtf" but I'm not going to shit bricks (rofl, pun intended) about it. If I see you again and you ask to put it there I'll remind you what happened last time and be incredulously if you in fact ask if you can do it again. Most people aren't your garden variety douche nozzle or wolf we idiot so this just isn't a realistic enough problem to worry about.

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".America is doomed b/c you can't leave dog shit wherever you please on the beach."

You said it brother!

1/17/2010 6:11:08 PM

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"Are you really questioning if the odds are greater that a rich white guy is a Republican?"

Yeah, I'd question that.

1/17/2010 6:17:44 PM

Thankfully the OP is the kind open-minded non-prejudicial sort of chap who can accurately judge someone's political leanings by shouting at them across a sand dune.


Unfortunately in this case, I think he misinterpreted their environmental zeal to not have non-biodegradable waste be scattered in such a manner that it would have been easily accessible to coastal animals. Perhaps if you'd approached them and requested to place it in their compost pile (instead of wantonly distributing petroleum products across a pristine seashore) you could have come to an amicable conclusion.

These were clearly environmentally conscious liberals who desired that you only respect Mother Earth.

1/17/2010 6:21:10 PM

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"I'm chilling on my porch and ask if you can put it there and it's in a bag"

You never asked. You just left your dog shit on his property.

1/17/2010 6:22:02 PM

lol this thread

1/17/2010 6:27:11 PM

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"Rich...white. The odds are greater than 50% that this guy is a Republican."

Liberal families, on average, earn 6% more than conservative families. Also, the per capita income for Democrats is higher than for Republicans.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/11/who_really_cares.html
http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed110607a.cfm

Why Are Democrats Richer than Republicans?
http://european-americanblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/why-are-democrats-richer-than.html

Of course, thats just the results of a quick google search. Sure, you can probably find another source that says different. The point is that political affiliation is a non-issue here and that you come off as a pompous douche for insisting otherwise.

And statistically speaking, you're in a blue state so the odds are greater than 50% that he votes democrat. Aren't statistics neat?

[Edited on January 17, 2010 at 6:29 PM. Reason : .]

1/17/2010 6:27:18 PM

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"You never asked. You just left your dog shit on his property."

No, when the bitch waved us off we told them we'd come back and get. I mean, you got to be one dumb motherfucker to know there is a poop law to make eye contact with an owner and then not actually come back. I mean, I suppose we could have just been vacationers, they didn't know that, but then you have to wonder why we bothered to bring bags at all. Additionally, do they really think we're morons to leave shit there like they accused us of, get caught in the act a second/third time, and not pick it up and just leave without saying anything?

^ Find the stats for "rich and white" not just rich.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-wiener/rich-old-white-men----sti_b_137987.html



[Edited on January 17, 2010 at 7:02 PM. Reason : .]

1/17/2010 6:56:27 PM

^ How about you do it since you're the one who's making the initial claim? You're the only one who should backup what you're saying, dipshit.

1/17/2010 7:04:13 PM

I'll get around to it. It isn't exactly easy to cull that type of info, however, it's common knowledge that old rich white guys are more likely to be Republican.

[Edited on January 17, 2010 at 7:06 PM. Reason : .]

1/17/2010 7:06:31 PM

1/17/2010 7:07:48 PM

^^ Common knowledge should be easy to get a hold of...

1/17/2010 7:14:07 PM

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"The poll defined "old" as "45 or older." Many will take issue with that definition, but those old white men supported McCain over Obama 48-42 per cent. White men under 45, in contrast, supported Obama, 50-43. And white women supported Obama, 45-42, whatever their age. The poll also shows that rich white people are even more likely to support McCain - no surprise. Here the poll defined "rich" as earning $50,000 or more. Most will take issue with that definition, but those rich white people supported McCain 49-42. (The poll did not provide separate figures for women and men among rich old white people- probably their sample was not big enough.)"

That sounds like an age issue that has little to do with richness or whiteness.

1/17/2010 7:15:21 PM

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"Why, because you don't have a legitimate response to the vagueness of the law?"

OK, I stand corrected about this being a troll thread. I assumed wrong when I thought that even a mental midget wouldn't be able to make the arguments you are making with a straight face. But to respond to your second part, there's nothing vague about the law in any way. You just refuse to follow it because you don't like it.

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"How about this, the high winds today have made the sea rougher than I've seen it in a very long time. Like, the waves we're breaking in 5-6 different spots 50 feet into the water. We walked today and because the beach doesn't have a berm and isn't very steep, the high tide mark was touching the dunes in some spots. For the piece of property in question, the high tide mark was about 10 feet from where the dune actually started to rise, but it was far enough up so that they spot where we actually put the bags down was within the mark. So does the high water mark change from a day to day basis? "

Mean high tide is a fixed elevation on the earth's shore. That line doesn't move in relation to the actual water levels or where the waves break. You don't have to act like a complete fucktard because you don't understand how property boundaries work.

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"And again, how does this relate to the tradition of allowing the public free use of the beach up to the dunes? I was hoping damn republican would be out there today, I was going to idle around in front of his property and hope he tried to tell me to get off."

you've already been informed of the law regarding where the actual public use of the beach is. you even verified it yourself, except you must have just ignored it because you didn't like it.

I'm not the least bit surprised that you're the kind of dumbass that would go back to try to harass a property owner for sticking up for his own legal rights when what you were doing is illegal.

1/17/2010 7:16:25 PM

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"It isn't exactly easy to cull that type of info, however, it's common knowledge that old rich white guys are more likely to be Republican."

You're confusing "common knowledge" with "stereotype", but by all means, go through life and judge everyone based on your own prejudices.

1/17/2010 7:21:50 PM

I think you are technically in the wrong, according to the law. I would have handled this differently.

I would have opened the bag and dumped the dog shit on the ground immediately after the woman came out and started yelling. I would have then thrown the bags on the ground, called her a fat bitch, and continued walking down the beach.

The police aren't going to fingerprint the bags to see if they belong to you. The police aren't going to take a shit sample from your dogs to compare it to shit found in someone's yard.

You'll feel a lot better about yourself if you tell someone to fuck off at least once a month.

1/17/2010 7:23:14 PM

^ FUCK OFF

1/17/2010 7:24:51 PM

Party politics are the most powerful troll bate you can use!
Start a long argument and fulfill your need for attention (even if its negative), the first time, every time. No need to say anything of value. Get blanket dismissals/applications of religion, also guaranteed to bring out the self righteous assholes who love to argue, free.

1/17/2010 7:26:17 PM

Lots of butthurt in this thread.

1/17/2010 7:37:21 PM

this thread amuses me.

1/17/2010 7:38:16 PM

^ Same here.

I don't know which I find more amusing though. Him getting pissed off about being told to GTFO by property owners and him giving up like a little bitch to old people, him being told how wrong he is, him trying to justify his stereotype with statistics, or him stomping off in anger (assuming he doesn't respond again).

Seriously. A ton of LULZ and FAIL in this thread.

1/17/2010 7:44:56 PM

^ My thoughts exactly!!

This stuff is gold.

1/17/2010 7:46:24 PM

someone remind me the next time i vote to check out the candidates' policies on dog shit.

1/17/2010 7:46:35 PM

People / beaches use Christmas trees to help build up the dunes

1/17/2010 8:21:10 PM

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"Is a Gallup poll legit? You can't be this dumb can you? Rich...white. The odds are greater than 50% that this guy is a Republican."

Thats like saying all black people steal.

1/17/2010 9:39:46 PM

does this image work?

1/17/2010 9:41:46 PM

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"Mean high tide is a fixed elevation on the earth's shore. That line doesn't move in relation to the actual water levels or where the waves break. "

HAHHAHAHA, no wait, let me read it again.

HAHAHAHHA

When beaches erode, the high tide line doesn't change.

HAHAHAHAHHA

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"You don't have to act like a complete fucktard because you don't understand how property boundaries work."

Yeah, I mean durr, shouldn't everyone know what mean high tide is and what elevation it is on any given beach. They mark it clearly so you can see. And you NEVER see people hanging out above this line.

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"I'm not the least bit surprised that you're the kind of dumbass that would go back to try to harass a property owner for sticking up for his own legal rights when what you were doing is illegal."

No, that is exactly the question I've posed multiple times here, the law states one thing, in practice it is quite different, and you've yet to even touch the argument. Rather, you're continuing to argue with me even after recognizing I've acknowledged what the letter (not the spirit) of the law says. For fucks sakes, listen to yourself.

1/17/2010 10:34:52 PM

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"A ton of LULZ and FAIL in this thread"

My threads rarely fail.

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"People / beaches use Christmas trees to help build up the dunes"

Don't tell these people that, the ones that are uber informed about their property rights.

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"Thats like saying all black people steal."

No, not it isn't. You're not that intelligent are you?

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"Him getting pissed off about being told to GTFO by property owners "

Your reading comprehension is TERRIBLE.

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"him giving up like a little bitch to old people"

Clearly, I should have kicked that old fuckers ass for not letting me hang out on his beach.

1/17/2010 10:38:59 PM