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"picking and choosing how you want to help is not christian."

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"poverty doesn't exactly give someone the right to life liberty and freedom does it?"

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"Its not freedom if people have to work just to be able to eat. "

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"ts volunteer slavery because working on your own is not an option."

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"It would be nice if bannks were fair and allowed anyone to take out a loan and start a business that had a legit shot at competing with businesses who had more money."

:crack: :crack: :crack: :crack: :crack:

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"you have to have the money to own and maintain land."

A consequence of government, not capitalism.

[Edited on February 28, 2010 at 10:13 PM. Reason : :crack:]

2/28/2010 10:12:13 PM

you can''t just make a whole post with spacey eyes

2/28/2010 10:47:25 PM

I'm a liberal, nonreligious person, who is about to celebrate my 7th anniversary in a monogamous relationship. That I so perfectly fit this study's definition of those who typically have higher IQs is alone enough to lead me to question its validity.

2/28/2010 10:48:57 PM

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/02/stop_patting_yourselves_on_the.php

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"Good grief. This ridiculous study is making the rounds of the atheist community, with its claim that liberals and atheists are smarter than conservatives and religious people. Look at the numbers! Young adults who identify themselves as "not at all religious" have an average IQ of 103 during adolescence, while those who identify themselves as "very religious" have an average IQ of 97 during adolescence. Seriously? Show me the error bars on those measurements. Show me the reliability of IQ as a measure of actual, you know, intelligence. Show me that a 6 point IQ difference matters at all in your interactions with other people, even if it were real. And then to claim that these differences are not only heritable, but evolutionarily significant…jebus, people, you can just glance at it and see that it is complete crap. And then look at the source: Satoshi Kanazawa, the Fenimore Cooper of Sociobiology, the professional fantasist of Psychology Today. He's like the poster boy for the stupidity and groundlessnessof freakishly fact-free evolutionary psychology. Just ignore anything with Kanazawa's name on it."

2/28/2010 10:50:14 PM

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"The findings will be published in the March 2010 issue of Social Psychology Quarterly."

We'll get the raw data when it gets published.

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"Seriously? Show me the error bars on those measurements. Show me the reliability of IQ as a measure of actual, you know, intelligence. Show me that a 6 point IQ difference matters at all in your interactions with other people, even if it were real. And then to claim that these differences are not only heritable, but evolutionarily significant…jebus, people, you can just glance at it and see that it is complete crap. "

This is a pretty generic criticism of IQ, and it's not really what the study is about, from my understanding. Of course IQ isn't the be-all end-all of metrics, but it's useful in a specific context, that i'm guessing is more obvious in the actual document, vs a CNN writeup.

[Edited on February 28, 2010 at 11:31 PM. Reason : ]

2/28/2010 11:29:56 PM

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"you can''t just make a whole post with spacey eyes"

2/28/2010 11:42:20 PM

This is fun to read and try to figure out with no background in science:

Neurocognitive correlates of liberalism and conservatism...

http://www.psych.nyu.edu/amodiolab/Amodio%20et%20al.%20%282007%29%20Nature%20Neuro.pdf

2/28/2010 11:43:19 PM

Went to IQtest.com and entered random answers as fast as I could (all questions were true/false) and got a 106, which is supposedly average for Americans.

[Edited on March 1, 2010 at 10:00 AM. Reason : url]

3/1/2010 9:59:46 AM