armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "its almost like you live in a world where what actually happens in the video doesnt happen, and you'd rather comment on speculation and assumption, rather than what clearly happens in the video" |
context motherfucker, have you ever heard of it?
Quote : | "either way you're defending him like its your own grandfather when he is CLEARLY in the wrong" |
How is he clearly in the wrong? For all you or I know the kid could have desecrated Bob Etheridge's grandmother's corpse immediately preceding the clip. It's an extreme example but it should impart to you how important context is when considering the significance of heavily edited internet videos.
Quote : | "so that gives him the right to grab the kid's arm" |
OH NO HE GRABBED SOME KID'S ARM THAT IS THE WORST CRIME A POLITICIAN COULD POSSIBLY COMMIT.6/16/2010 1:57:27 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148252 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How is he clearly in the wrong? For all you or I know the kid could have desecrated Bob Etheridge's grandmother's corpse immediately preceding the clip. " |
Quote : | "heavily edited internet videos" |
"heavily edited"...wow you sure are a stupid motherfucker arent you
check the TSB thread, all this shit has been addressed, i dont have time to explain how the clip actually, GASP, is WHAT HAPPENED
keep acting like the evil college kids who asked a question on the sidewalk are wrong, while the pure and kind congressman simply restrained the criminal student for his own good
[Edited on June 16, 2010 at 2:00 AM. Reason : glad i'm not a partisan hack]]6/16/2010 1:59:28 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
i still haven't seen any evidence that these people are college kids
and i'm still not defending etheridge's physical actions
but WHO ARE YOU is a completely legitimate question 6/16/2010 2:06:48 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148252 Posts user info edit post |
i don't think anyone would have a problem with "who are you" if he didn't preceed the question by grabbing the kid's arm and not letting go, after first hitting the camera, and then later grabbing the kid...its not like they went to his house and rang his doorbell and did this...they were on the sidewalk and he walked by
tell me, did you just vote for this guy, or are you defending his indefensible actions for some other reason?] 6/16/2010 2:10:29 AM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""heavily edited"...wow you sure are a stupid motherfucker arent you" |
clever retort, retard. see how easy that is?
Quote : | "check the TSB thread, " |
not going to bother
Quote : | "keep acting like the evil college kids who asked a question on the sidewalk are wrong, while the pure and kind congressman simply restrained the criminal student for his own good" |
The bottom line for me is that, regardless of whether what happened in the video clip is all there is to the story, this still is easily one of the most inconsequential and lame political "scandals" I can remember. Also, you calling me a partisan hack is laughable given your transparent distaste for Etheridge.6/16/2010 2:13:22 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148252 Posts user info edit post |
here, watch the full videos dumbass http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2010/06/bob-etheridge-unedited-video.html
if i was a partisan hack you'd think i would vote republican, or vote at all
but whatever you have to tell yourself to convince yourself that etheridge is in the right in the situation, when an 8 year old child could watch this video and tell you who was wrong
its sad you let politics sway your views so much, when a video clearly shows you're 100% wrong] 6/16/2010 2:15:38 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
he says WHO ARE YOU before there's any physical contact
which would render this false: Quote : | "i don't think anyone would have a problem with "who are you" if he didn't preceed the question by grabbing the kid's arm and not letting go" |
6/16/2010 2:17:44 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148252 Posts user info edit post |
he also smacks the camera and grabs the kid about 4 seconds after asking who he is the first time...SORRY KID, YOU DIDN'T ANSWER FAST ENOUGH, I'M GONNA GRAB YA
he also says it afterwards, since he says it about 10 times, but thats all semantics
you guys are really on this congressman's jock aren't you, did he help you out with some favors or something? i don't know any other reason you're defending this blatant bullshit by some fucking egotistical politician who thinks he's above everyone else...its pretty fucking pathetic if you ask me] 6/16/2010 2:20:12 AM |
Punter16 All American 2021 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i don't think anyone would have a problem with "who are you" if he didn't preceed the question by grabbing the kid's arm and not letting go, after first hitting the camera, and then later grabbing the kid" |
Yea this is why I don't have any problem understanding why the kids might not want to identify themselves, if I were in that situation I'd be thinking "wow this guy is insane/an obvious jerk and the last thing I want to do is give my name to a guy who just attacked me and also happens to be in a position to potentially screw me over if he wanted to"6/16/2010 2:22:41 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
i have no political preference other than never voting for incumbents
although i do enjoy answering troll questions
but i do hate punk kids who think they can do whatever they want
especially when they blur out their faces 6/16/2010 2:22:51 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148252 Posts user info edit post |
i hate punk politicians a lot more than punk kids...punk kids don't fuck over this country on a daily basis
and wtf is your problem with "punk kids doing whatever they want"
how dare these punk kids stand on the sidewalk in Washington DC and ask a politician a question] 6/16/2010 2:23:49 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
which is why i never vote for incumbents
anyone who wants to be elected is probably an asshole ] 6/16/2010 2:24:12 AM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but whatever you have to tell yourself to convince yourself that etheridge is in the right in the situation" |
It has nothing to do with whether he was in the right in that situation, it has to do with whether it's worth making a huge deal out of and endlessly regurgitating it on the news. Not to mention the dubious assertion that it has anything to do with his ability to legislate in an appropriate manner. In the worst case scenario HE PINCHED SOME KID'S WRISTS, BIG FUCKING DEAL. This is almost less significant than the whole Republican interns charge party for dinner at S&M club in Hollywood "scandal". Either way it's making mountains out of molehills.
[Edited on June 16, 2010 at 2:27 AM. Reason : .]6/16/2010 2:25:35 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148252 Posts user info edit post |
^^that seems pretty contradictory to your entire stance in this thread
^nobody is making a big deal over it, just talking about it in a thread on TWW...the fact that you actually defend him tells a lot though
Quote : | "It has nothing to do with whether he was in the right in that situation" |
um...he clearly WASN'T in the right...thats pretty obvious]6/16/2010 2:25:49 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
my stance is that you shouldn't hit motherfuckers
but you also shouldn't be expected to answer to some idiot with a camera
the fact that i think all politicians are assholes is tangential to the previous issue 6/16/2010 2:27:20 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148252 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you also shouldn't be expected to answer to some idiot with a camera" |
So you're trying to tell me that an ELECTED POLITICIAN, who is WALKING DOWN THE SIDEWALK in WASHINGTON DC, not only shouldn't be expected to answer to some idiot with a camera on a public sidewalk, but should smack the camera and grab the kid like some kind of fucking old pedophile?
How the hell are you gonna tell me you're answering my troll questions when you keep defending this shit?]6/16/2010 2:28:56 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
trolling all along, i know
but now you're just ignoring entire sections of my post 6/16/2010 2:30:08 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148252 Posts user info edit post |
its sad that you have such a connection to a politician, especially one who is likely to have a few drinks at lunch and grab a stranger on a sidewalk at any given moment
btw no schools or classes ever have fieldtrips to DC to learn about politics...they must be planted by the neocons!] 6/16/2010 2:32:37 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not a constituent of that dude
he doesn't have to answer to me, either 6/16/2010 2:35:17 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148252 Posts user info edit post |
you must hate Rodney King, that punk kid
not that I'm defending the cops that beat his ass
but we can't see exactly what happened on that video, he looks like a punk to me 6/16/2010 2:36:10 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
6/16/2010 2:36:46 AM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
It's funny how TreeTwista10 labels anyone who doesn't share his pathetic outrage as a partisan hack, and yet he's above any such suspicion because he claims he doesn't vote Republican on the internet. 6/16/2010 2:53:16 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
as a democrat and a liberal i just want to say that Etheridge looks like an unhinged old douchebag.
yes, reporters are required to identify themselves as a matter of course before interviewing someone especially a national politician.
yes, politicians are especially vulnerable to being asked loaded questions by persons intent on portraying them out of context to make them appear in a negative light, with the goal of damaging their credibility. and maybe, the "reporters" in question are even acting illegally in some manner by accosting a congressman who may have been on his way to official business. I am not a lawyer, so im just supposing it could be possible.
however, i dont think a congressman has the right to physically restrain/arrest/imprison a citizen/reporter who doesnt properly identify themselves according to protocol.
and even if they do have that right, the perception is going to be that the old fuckwit has made himself look like an unhinged douchebag.
he should have had more sense than to physically assault some college-aged kid with a camera. if he had walked by without comment, no one would have ever even seen the video.
[Edited on June 16, 2010 at 3:27 AM. Reason : ] 6/16/2010 3:25:23 AM |
State Oz All American 1897 Posts user info edit post |
This is gonna show just how TUFF i am, but..
if i had asked him a question, and he put his hands on me, and my friend was videotaping, I would have beat the shit out of him then yelled out THEWOLFWEB.COM!!!! 6/16/2010 5:43:02 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
SO TUFF 6/16/2010 9:18:21 AM |
jataylor All American 6652 Posts user info edit post |
im with twista on this one. etheridge should have just kept on walking if he didnt want to talk with them]] 6/16/2010 9:35:54 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if i had asked him a question, and he put his hands on me, and my friend was videotaping, I would have beat the shit out of him then yelled out THEWOLFWEB.COM!!!!" |
6/16/2010 9:36:49 AM |
NutGrass All American 3695 Posts user info edit post |
i, too, am with twista on this one.
the answer i would have given to the 'who are you' question, would have been 'a taxpayer, and i have a right to ask'.
etheridge acted inappropriately and embarassed NC, imo. he should have kept walking. now, with any faith in a judicial system, he will be charged with assault. 6/16/2010 10:16:54 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
just like dick cheney 6/16/2010 10:23:13 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
who shot someone in the face 6/16/2010 10:23:34 AM |
adam8778 All American 3095 Posts user info edit post |
because a hunting accident is the exact same thing as intentional physical assault.... gotcha 6/16/2010 10:39:51 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
"accident," you say? 6/16/2010 11:07:59 AM |
LeonIsPro All American 5021 Posts user info edit post |
Dick Cheney is the only one who has the power to make people apologize for him shooting them in the ass.
Quote : | "My family and I are deeply sorry for all that vice president Cheney has had to go through this past week. We send our love and respect to them as they deal with situations that are much more serious than what we’ve had this week. And we hope that he will continue to come to Texas and seek the relaxation that he deserves." |
6/16/2010 12:42:07 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
ass, face, whatev 6/18/2010 1:47:21 PM |
LeonIsPro All American 5021 Posts user info edit post |
I actually had face written until I read some of the information. 6/18/2010 1:50:08 PM |