It's completely idiotic that you can't install multiple versions of IE. It's clear they hate developers enough by the complete lack of care for standards up until very recently, the atrocious excuses for developer tools and inability to have multiple versions. Here's hoping somebody figures out a way to hack them together in a bundle again, since seemingly every corporate environment is stuck in the freakin stone ages.

9/15/2010 11:24:00 PM

It's completely idiotic to install multiple versions of IE.

hit F12, and from the debug window you can set the rendering engine and mode. IE7,8 or 9.

And sorry but if you're still stuck in a corporate environment relying on IE6, there's some serious shit that needs to change.

9/16/2010 3:11:19 AM

^^here's one way, although it doesn't work out quite that well for the ancient versions: http://utilu.com/IECollection/
but if you just want to test IE5.5 and up here's how: http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage

9/16/2010 3:17:06 AM

^^ you have to worry about public users if you're in government. I just escaped IE6 by policy within the last year even though roughly 10% of our hits are from IE6 even now. It's not even a matter of what should change; it's a matter of handling the needs of your clients.

If it were up to me concerning the lifespan of Internet Explorer as a whole, I'd leave nothing but scorched earth behind me and never look back.

[Edited on September 16, 2010 at 8:10 AM. Reason : ]

9/16/2010 8:09:38 AM

^^^Dude, NCWise had us fucking tied to IE6 until this summer. Now they have FINALLY made it IE7 compatible. But that blew something fierce. Thanks DPI.

9/16/2010 8:16:16 AM

Quote :

"If it were up to me concerning the lifespan of Internet Explorer as a whole, I'd leave nothing but scorched earth behind me and never look back."

Maybe you should scorched earth shitty IT staff?

9/16/2010 10:36:07 AM

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"And sorry but if you're still stuck in a corporate environment relying on IE6, there's some serious shit that needs to change."

Interning at Wachovia/Wells Fargo. Most of the guys on the trading floor still have IE6 installed. You have to call to get IE8 installed. Before I got them to install IE8 I had to manually type in /page/2 on sites like Engadget because the buttons didn't work. haha.

9/16/2010 11:20:57 AM

I work for a company of about 15,000 employees and we are finally having IE8 pushed out to us in October. We are all on IE6 now. Hell I just got SP3 for XP last month.

9/16/2010 12:02:59 PM

^

still on IE6 and we got SP3 for XP last month

9/16/2010 12:49:55 PM

Quote :

"Maybe you should scorched earth shitty IT staff?"

Maybe you should used proper grammar?

9/16/2010 2:32:17 PM

If the fact that I accidentally left out quotation marks made my post go over your head, I apologize.

Would you like me to try it again or do you have it sorted out now?

9/16/2010 3:18:51 PM

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"I work for a company of about 15,000 employees and we are finally having IE8 pushed out to us in October. "

that is seriously tragic.

9/16/2010 7:35:49 PM

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/gg131029(VS.85).aspx

The full run through of the Pinned Sites functionality in IE9

9/16/2010 9:58:48 PM

Quote :

"If the fact that I accidentally left out quotation marks made my post go over your head, I apologize. Would you like me to try it again or do you have it sorted out now?"

"proper grammar"

like "scorch-earth shitty IT staff"

"should" and most of the other auxiliary verbs (other than forms of "be" or "have") should be followed by the base form, not the simple past or past participle

9/17/2010 3:05:11 AM

So yeah, totally over your head.

Clearly what I should've expected from someone who implied Netscape 7 was a decent browser.

9/17/2010 8:39:39 AM

ie9: the best browser

9/17/2010 10:13:42 AM

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"Clearly what I should've expected from someone who implied Netscape 7 was a decent browser."

back in its day it was, from 2002 to 2004 it was the best browser you could get free and clear

9/17/2010 11:10:58 AM

ie6 was the best browser in 2002-2004

9/17/2010 11:11:48 AM

don't you mean ie6 was the best browser in 2002-2010

9/17/2010 11:34:39 AM

ie6 was best from when it came out till ie8. i was just pointing out that in his time frame ie6 was still king.

also, please to add IE9 theming and jumplist metadata to tdub.

9/17/2010 11:39:54 AM

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"from 2002 to 2004 it was the best browser you could get free and clear"

On what planet? Because here on Earth, it was complete shit.

9/17/2010 1:12:40 PM

you must be thinking of Netscape 4 and 6, because those browsers were complete shit, for different reasons

from 1995 to 2002 the best browser you could get free and clear was IE, because Netscape utterly sucked up to version 4 and Netscape 6 was alpha-quality software pushed out by AOLOL before it was done
then from 2002 to 2004 it was Netscape 7, or possibly the Mozilla Suite...
then from 2004 to 2005 it was Firefox
then from 2005 onward it was Opera, when the free version finally ditched the ads
although Chrome, in all its auto-updating majesty, makes a fine contender...

9/17/2010 3:07:45 PM

Uh, hello, Mosaic?

9/17/2010 3:19:01 PM

lol Opera

9/17/2010 3:54:12 PM

You know how people like to trumpet that whole "Oh, it's an opinion! It can't be wrong!" line?

All your opinions are wrong.

And not just a little wrong either.

Like super-duper wrong.

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Going back to IE9, I'm finding an issue with the cursor in textareas not actually being where it appears to be from time to time - like if I hit "Ctrl + End" to go to the bottom of a textarea and then hit the up key, while the next place I type will be the line above the previous one, the cursor itself doesn't appear to move.

9/17/2010 4:01:47 PM

I'm getting quite a bit of weird mouse behavior too.

If I do a fast click and drag (say to highlight text) and there's a link to the left of the text box (bing.com is a great example of this), it CLICKS THE LINK and sends me back to the homepage.

Also seen this now in a number of other sites and on multiple computers.

Overall though I have to say this thing is 1000% improvement over IE8.

It's all the little stuff that really does add up.

9/17/2010 4:06:46 PM

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"Uh, hello, Mosaic?"

from 1993 to the release of Netscape in 1994, Mosaic was tops

9/17/2010 4:16:49 PM

Just want to say that this lewisje character seems like a huge cunt

No opinion yet on IE9, though

9/17/2010 5:19:44 PM

Running into an issue with the WebBrowser Control in .NET (when set to run as IE9) not properly handling some things in JavaScript that IE9 handles fine. Sadly, one of those things is jQuery...

I should mention that the issue is fixed by commenting out one line, but I still don't really get why it's happening. Problem reported and hopefully just an "it's only a beta, hold on and we'll fix that" issue.

9/23/2010 12:15:11 PM

[double post]

[Edited on September 23, 2010 at 12:15 PM. Reason : .]

9/23/2010 12:15:11 PM

is there an add on for IE that works like Firefox's Clipping Add On.

11/2/2010 10:23:58 AM

W3C Confirms: IE9 is the best browser
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/01/w3c_html5_conformance_tests/

11/2/2010 10:29:34 AM

That said, I wish they'd update the Beta to fix this textbox issue as it is my one gripe.

Also:

Quote :

"F12 Developer Tools and Formatting Minified Script To make the F12 Developer Tools even more convenient, we’ve added a feature in Platform Preview 6. Many developers minify their JavaScript to save bandwidth and speed up their sites, but minified code is painful to read and debug. With IE9’s built-in JavaScript formatting, you can keep your code minified while still having easy-to-read code in the debugger:"

is a nice feature.

11/2/2010 10:46:04 AM

I went back to ie8 + chrome.

Beta just isn't anywhere close to ready for prime time.
Supposedly the internal builds have fixed all my issues, but I want to run the same thing at work and at home

11/2/2010 10:54:30 AM

I know there's some hackery that will allow you to run the IE9 interface with Platform Preview 6.

11/2/2010 2:37:39 PM

noen, when is ie9 rc??

11/2/2010 6:52:21 PM

^ No idea. Honestly IE9 is not really top of my needs list either. When it comes out I'll try it out, but it seems like mostly a "Microsoft should have done this last time" release to me, much like Windows 7.

11/2/2010 10:16:11 PM

Quote :

"W3C Confirms: IE9 is the best browser "most closely adheres to" HTML5"

FTFY. Also note that Firefox 4b9 and Chrome 7b aren't far behind and all of them are still in beta. Safari 5's obviously lagging behind buts it's not really a spring chicken anymore. I'd only really count Opera as being ahead considering they have a stable release with some pretty good numbers in there. I also wonder how the nightly build from Webkit would do on these same tests.

Quote :

"When it comes out I'll try it out, but it seems like mostly a "Microsoft should have done this last time" release to me, much like Windows 7."

Spot on.

11/4/2010 7:35:39 PM

IE is the best browser. all others are total shit only used by the biggest of sperglords

11/4/2010 8:29:49 PM

wow

11/4/2010 8:42:18 PM

^^^a better comparison would be Chrome 9 Canary, which is about as stable as a typical beta (also the actual Beta channel is often at the same build as the Stable channel, it just recently got bumped to version 8 and for a couple weeks it was at 7 at the same time as Stable)

[Edited on November 5, 2010 at 8:55 AM. Reason : also Firefox 4 is still at Beta 6, not even the nightlies have gone to b9

11/5/2010 8:53:54 AM

Terrible browser is terrible.

11/6/2010 2:18:18 AM

looks and feels like a rip off of chrome to me.

11/6/2010 7:53:10 PM

http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/news/2102029/ie9-thrashes-rival-browsers-security-contest

Quote :

"Researchers found that IE9 was the best browser tested, blocking over 99 per cent of malicious URLs compared with Google's Chrome 12 at 13 per cent and Mozilla's Firefox 4 and Apple's Safari 5, which tied at third with 7.6 per cent, according to reports."

that is surprising. and frankly, sounds a little dubious

8/16/2011 12:16:32 PM

ie probably just couldn't load the pages, and it got counted as a block

8/16/2011 1:26:01 PM

^

8/16/2011 3:54:55 PM

I'm sorry your favorite browsers are somewhere between #2 and #completeshit

8/16/2011 3:55:52 PM

you can talk to me when I get some damned border radii and nth-children

and when it doesn't lose its shit over a stray comma in a js object

also, ie's mother is a whore

[Edited on August 16, 2011 at 6:19 PM. Reason : grammatical fail, autocorrect]

8/16/2011 6:18:50 PM

IE9 has border-radius.

And you don't even need to put the -webkit or -moz in front of it.

BANDWIDTH SAVINGS

8/16/2011 9:16:50 PM

8/17/2011 11:58:42 PM