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4/6/2010 5:33:47 PM

i listen to britney spears and it isn't ironic

so i guess i'm not a hipster

WHEW

4/6/2010 5:35:10 PM

negative ghostwriter

really?



Has a beard...check

Drinks shitty beer...check

Listens to shitty music...check

Dances and post pics online...check

Wears a headband...check

Goes to hipster bars...check

Boys with guitarguy...check


Hmm, I wonder

4/6/2010 5:35:50 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLVbs5Huogo

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 5:47 PM. Reason : this is some britney spears i'll listen to]

4/6/2010 5:36:39 PM

yeah, guitarguy is a hipster

4/6/2010 5:37:07 PM

^^^ shitty is subjective

unless i'm using the word. then it is objective. and the truth. an objective truth, if you will.

and you, sir, are SHITTY

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 5:37 PM. Reason : .]

4/6/2010 5:37:14 PM

rabble rabble

4/6/2010 5:37:58 PM

I seem to remember your place at Uwoods being decked out in a hipster fashion

4/6/2010 5:38:05 PM

actually i bet like 90% of the people in here making fun of hipsters actually listen to Kenny Chesney or radio stations named 102 JAMZ or something like that.

4/6/2010 5:38:50 PM

hipsters don't live at uwoods, k?

they lived at the wilmont post condemnation + renovation.

4/6/2010 5:39:17 PM

i lived in a hipster house for a semester. actually it was more like the punk house. random people just came and went and threw up in the toilet.

real hipsters moved to Williamsburg, Brooklyn long ago and decorate their walls with Russian teabags and are part time students at CUNY while bartending/doing "art"/playing music.

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 5:42 PM. Reason : .]

4/6/2010 5:41:50 PM

Quote :

"yeah, guitarguy is a hipster"

hahahaha

4/6/2010 5:43:48 PM

I realize this thread is about those who are hipsters.... which I am not. Hear me out, maybe I can offer some insight.

I am in outside sales, which is currently salary+commission, but will move into straight commission starting at the beginning of July 2010. I have been in this position since July 2009. I have competition from several direct manufacturing sales reps, large distributors, and local distributors. Here are the advantages and disadvantages of each:

Direct Advantages: Immediate knowledge of new technology, no middle man mark up, one shipping bill (paid by manufacturer or buyer of goods), access to larger range of non-commodity items, control inventory, have access to many distributors that can effectively sell their goods which increases market share, and set prices of commodity they manufacture.

Direct disadvantages: Typically have 1-3 sales reps per region (i.e. southeast, mid-atlantic, northeast, etc.) limiting the number of accounts they can successfully manage/cold-call, lack physical customer service or physical technical service available to or affordable for smaller users or altogether, are sometimes not trustworthy because they will go in behind their distributors that sell their commodity to one account in large quantities (i.e. they missed a big account, and have found out about it through a distributor selling their particular product) which leads to the distributor not selling their product anymore, have too many distributors selling the product ultimately driving the set price down through deviations, possibly rely on distributors to actually sell the product, and competition from other direct sources.

Large distributor advantages: have access to other commodities that go hand in hand with other manufacturers (poor example- grocery stores sell milk as well as cereal), get direct pricing, many locations regionally or nationally easing the shipping burden of buyers with multiple locations, personal service either customer or technical, many sales reps that are able to cover a broader territory, access to multiple manufacturers of the same commodity allowing to keep prices in check, service programs that smaller companies can't offer and direct providers can't match in price or value, and experts of many many commodities as opposed to one or a few.

Large distributor disadvantages: smaller local distributors creating price wars (think Michael Scott Paper Co vs Dunder-Mifflin), direct mfg's going in behind and stealing business, limited access to all of the mfg's (you won't find Harris Teeter name brands in Food Lion and visa versa), can't truly set prices because it's based on both supply and demand, territory management, and tough growth prospects in slower economies (this is true for direct as well really)

Local distributor advantages: Typically a good ol' boy setting where the seller and the buyer know each other for years (this does happen at all levels, but mostly at the local level), local folks are right down the street and can be used in emergencies, if the local guy buys at high enough volumes then there is no shipping charge to the end user, and access to both direct mfg's and large distributors.

Local distributor disadvantages: easily beaten in price, array of commodities, array of technology, lack of trained staff, low cash flow, etc etc etc.

This is what I have noticed in my six months, I am sure there are plenty more that need mentioning. The way I am setting myself apart as a sales person is this: I go after the big accounts right now while I am new. The big accounts, if I land them, will take care of me while I am new and building a customer base. The money made off of those allows me to focus free time on smaller accounts that get me higher margins. I build up big accounts, I would like to have 5-10 of these, then get 20-30 medium accounts. If I lose 1 or 2 big accounts, the 20-30 medium accounts keep me afloat while I go after new big accounts. I don't really waste time on small accounts simply because they basically pay for breakfast or something really small.

I will say this, if you can't get a big account in the first 6-8 months (assuming you have cash flow that you can ride this long) you could be in a world of trouble. If you can get one, it will really make going after the others a lot more enjoyable and less stressful. It's simply just very exhausting wasting any time on anything other than big accounts in the very beginning. You work just as hard on the medium sized accounts and see 1/3 to 1/36 of the money in my situation.

If you have any other questions, you can PM me. I hope this helps in the slightest!

4/6/2010 5:48:42 PM

lol @ this thread

4/6/2010 6:13:29 PM

do you think you'd have success banging a hipster girl if you walked into a hipster place dressed as fratty as possible and told her how much you hate her and her kind and what they stand for, yet you stilll wanted to have sex with one because it'd be, ya know, ironic?

4/6/2010 6:30:43 PM

How would that be ironic?

4/6/2010 6:32:51 PM

it's funny how you listed me and skack

and skack posted pretty much what i was going to post

considering we grew up in basically the same "scene" with basically the same people, but just a few years separated in age

4/6/2010 6:45:38 PM

^^ because it would be contrary to what one would expect...?

4/6/2010 7:47:14 PM

Are people who play roller derby classified as hipsters?

4/6/2010 10:10:53 PM

probably more like bull-dykes

4/6/2010 10:49:07 PM

I know 3 roller derby broads, or I should say girls I used to know that turned into derby broads. While none of them are open lesbians, I wouldn't be shocked if any of the 3 came out tomorrow.

4/6/2010 10:51:14 PM

I would do roller derby if I didn't think that my colleagues would assume I was a bull dyke.

4/7/2010 12:05:39 AM

you're way too sexy to be a bull dyke

4/7/2010 12:07:37 AM

Okay, no bull dyke

Clam digger?

4/7/2010 12:09:17 AM

no, not so much a clam digger either. i'll give you carpet muncher though.

4/7/2010 12:14:08 AM

Quote :

"and all the non-hipsters should watch out. you have told us all too much already. i see you over there at hibernian while i'm nomming my tofu burrito at the rockford. now that all my hangouts are gone i guess i'll just have to hit up glenwood south. what do you say guys? FIRST we can go to hibernian (or should we start at tobacco road?) then we can make our way down to high 5 for a dance partay. OMG WE ARE GOING TO BE BEST FRIENDS!"

Holy shit.

4/7/2010 12:26:12 AM

Quote :

"Are people who play roller derby classified as hipsters?"

not necessarily

but they sure do put away the PBR

4/7/2010 11:08:09 AM

http://www.cracked.com/funny-4573-hipster/

4/10/2010 10:35:44 AM

fleetwud is a hipster....totally emo oranges material.

4/10/2010 11:03:52 AM

7/15/2010 8:59:41 AM

ungh.

no.

7/15/2010 9:01:07 AM

i know it's brokencyde, i just wanted to post the picture

7/15/2010 9:03:17 AM

i dont know what brokencyde is

7/15/2010 9:04:03 AM

wtf is brokencyde

anyway, they definitely look like what i'd imagine brokencyde to look like, whatever it actually is.

7/15/2010 9:05:34 AM

7/15/2010 9:05:35 AM

uhh... is this like Radio Disney after dark?

7/15/2010 9:11:07 AM

lol i dunno

7/15/2010 9:12:38 AM

Do u think members of the indie blogosphere scene are ‘better’ than these people?
Should we all just get Flock of Seagulls haircuts and eat a shit load of cookies?

7/15/2010 12:37:24 PM

so all of these hipsters look like 80s punk rock kids.

7/15/2010 12:41:21 PM

^^^^ I can't believe I put Municipal Waste's "Art of Partying" on pause to listen to that shit.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evF80GEuVe8
Thread redeemed.

[Edited on July 15, 2010 at 12:43 PM. Reason : s]

7/15/2010 12:41:50 PM

Quote :

"Do u think members of the indie blogosphere scene are ‘better’ than these people? Should we all just get Flock of Seagulls haircuts and eat a shit load of cookies?"

tschudi knows what i was reading

7/15/2010 12:45:09 PM

i do like 7/10*100 percent of these things but i'm not a hipster

you must work on your definition

I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.

7/15/2010 12:51:49 PM

Hipsters spend an inordinate amount of time getting ready to make it look like they didn't spend any time getting ready. That's about as broad a definition as I can make up to describe them.

7/15/2010 1:20:13 PM

What about the goths?

7/15/2010 1:29:12 PM

^I mean...that's kinda obvious.

7/15/2010 1:33:41 PM

Quote :

"Hipsters spend an inordinate amount of time getting ready to make it look like they didn't spend any time getting ready. That's about as broad a definition as I can make up to describe them."

How do you know this? Do you hang around a lot of hipsters as they get ready?

7/15/2010 1:37:14 PM

^Not that much, but I've been around a few getting ready and it's also pretty fucking obvious by just looking at them. I've been around a ton of hipsters and have a few hipsters as close friends, and they spend more time on their appearance than an Ole Miss sorority president.

7/15/2010 1:40:46 PM

^^^ So, hipsters are just goths who are afraid or worshiping Satan?

[Edited on July 15, 2010 at 1:42 PM. Reason : And who also discovered neon clothing?]

7/15/2010 1:41:55 PM

that's just silly.

7/15/2010 1:43:03 PM

This whole thread has been a learning experience for me.
No, I didn't learn anything about hipsters.
I did, however, get a glimpse into just how badly the public misconstrues these things.

I guess this is why satanists and neo-nazis were all the rage on the talk show circuit in the 80's.

7/15/2010 1:47:12 PM