5/14/2010 2:02:02 PM

For real, did you guys just go on isohunt and search or what? Also, when were you on the torrents?

5/14/2010 2:30:49 PM

DC++ is where the Partay is at. It just takes some time to find what you want.

5/14/2010 2:36:15 PM

rapidshare

premium

account

5/14/2010 2:44:06 PM

It's funny because guy that made the film stole it from a bomb tech while embedded in Iraq:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Academy-Award-Nominee-The-prnews-720421611.html?x=0&.v=1

5/14/2010 3:08:08 PM

Pretty glad I opted to take the Netflix route on this one in retrospect.

5/14/2010 3:10:16 PM

at this point my attorney told me not to say anything about this, but in my case, i dont think they can sue me at this point, but we will see...

5/14/2010 3:43:18 PM

Ask them for proof you actually downloaded or uploaded anything. Any client can send any information they want to the tracker (fake dl/ul stats, fake completion information, etc.). If they got their information from the tracker, it's essentially computerized hearsay. It certainly doesn't constitute proof of anything. The tracker never receives proof of anything. It just reports what the clients send it.

5/14/2010 4:32:21 PM

hahah ThatGoodLock bout to get pwnt



Fair use as defined by the DMCA totally does NOT work the way you think it does.



Not only that, but the files created have headers associated with them that can tell you when the file was created. If you're watching a DVD screener rip, it won't matter if you have a legit used DVD copy. Your file date is before the DVD release date, which means you stole it.

[Edited on May 14, 2010 at 4:42 PM. Reason : .]

5/14/2010 4:41:38 PM

Lawyering up will cost more than the proposed settlement so you're gonna be out cash either way.

Unless you are moron and want to fight it yourself, in which case, have at it hoss.

5/14/2010 4:45:06 PM

time warner called me a few years ago for downloading 'over the hedge' or something, someone took the time to report my ip to TWC. last time i had any problems...i just don't use mininova anymore

5/14/2010 4:47:10 PM

i'm so out of the pirating scene

what's come after torrents?

5/14/2010 4:51:15 PM

premium rapidshare is really where it's at, seeing as you aren't contributing anything* to the scene, it'll be the last to fall.

5/14/2010 4:52:04 PM

you downloaded Over The Hedge?

5/14/2010 4:52:50 PM

So how much is the settlement?

5/14/2010 6:47:58 PM

I'm also curious what people used to download the movie.

and I'm also curious why anyone would have downloaded Over the Hedge.

5/14/2010 11:13:22 PM

They only wanted $500 from me for downloading Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and that was before any settlement, but I wasn't seeding the torrent for any longer than I downloaded.

5/15/2010 2:02:54 AM

I think a fair settlement would be them requiring you to buy the DVD new

[Edited on May 15, 2010 at 2:05 AM. Reason : m]

5/15/2010 2:05:37 AM

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/05/time-warner-cable-tries-to-put-brakes-on-massive-piracy-case.ars

Odd that you guys got letters if you use TWC... Granted this is about Far Cry but I imagine it's the same deal with this since the scale is so much larger.

Quote :

"Time Warner Cable has no intention of complying with thousands of requests asking it to identify copyright infringers. Remember the US Copyright Group? They're the DC legal outfit that is turning P2P copyright infringement into cash, partnering with independent movie studios (the big players are not involved) to sue individual file-swappers in federal court—and ISPs are not pleased with the plan. Too busy busting terrorists Yesterday, Time Warner Cable told a federal court overseeing a massive 2,094-person lawsuit targeting the poor folks who downloaded (and, what's worse, apparently watched) Uwe Boll's Far Cry that the US Copyright Group's subpoenas were out of control. "Copyright cases involving third-party discovery of Internet service providers have typically related to a plaintiff's efforts to identify anonymous defendants whose numbers rank in the single or low double digits," wrote the cable company. "By contrast, plaintiff in this case alone seeks identifying information about 2,049 anonymous defendants, and seeks identifying information about 809 Internet Protocol addresses from TWC." Time Warner Cable does not have enough employees to respond to these requests. In a typical month, the company receives an average of 567 IP lookup requests, nearly all of them coming from law enforcement. These lookup requests involve everything from suicide threats to child abduction to terrorist activity, and the company says that such cases take "immediate priority." Once law enforcement is served, the four full-time workers (and one temp) who make up the ISP's Subpoena Compliance team can turn to other matters, such as subpoenas in civil cases. The company says that it has the capacity to handle 28 subpoenas from the US Copyright Group per month. Instead, TWC was hit with a request for 809 names within 30 days. In addition, the company has received two other subpoenas, both from the same law firm, asking for another 398 and 224 IP address lookups. Each lookup costs TWC $45. "If the Court compels TWC to answer all of these lookup requests given its current staffing, it would take TWC nearly three months of full-time work by TWC's Subpoena Compliance group, and TWC would not be able to respond to any other request, emergency or otherwise, from law enforcement during this period," said the filing. "TWC has a six-month retention period for its IP lookup logs, and by the time TWC could turn to law enforcement requests, many of these requests could not be answered." Quash, baby, quash! The ISP has now asked the court to quash the subpoena for three reasons. First, because US Copyright Group lawyer Tom Dunlap "has now simply reneged" on an agreement that he worked out with TWC to manage the flow of subpoenas. Second, the entire approach to these lawsuits may be invalid. Filing lawsuits can be expensive; Most federal courts charge a $350 filing fee per case, along with a new set of paperwork. Each case also creates another docket to keep track of, making thousands of cases an administrative nightmare. Instead of going this route, plaintiffs have gone the RIAA route, simply filing mass lawsuits against groups of "John Does," in some cases by the thousands. But, says TWC, channeling its inner Ray Beckerman, "It is not evident from the complaint in this case that there is anything common to the 2,094 defendants that would justify joining them in a single litigation... Courts facing these identical circumstances have repeatedly held that a plaintiff may not join in a single action multiple defendants who have allegedly downloaded or facilitated the download of copyrighted material at different times and locations. "Thus, if the plaintiff wants to sue these 2,094 defendants, it owes this court 2,094 separate filing fees, and it must file individual actions. Plaintiff then would be unable to combine together a single, massive discovery request with which to burden non-party ISPs such as TWC." Third, plaintiff lawyers keep expanding the scope of their subpoenas. The first complaint filed alleged 426 infringing IP addresses belonging to TWC subscribers. But when the company finally received a subpoena, it found requests for 809 IP addresses. Taken together, said TWC, these "discovery abuses" mean that the judge should quash the subpoena. Alternately, the judge should limit the plaintiff to 28 TWC subpoenas each month. According to the court docket, Comcast and Cablevision are trying to work out their own deal with the lawyers to keep the work to a minimum, though they could also ask the judge to quash the subpoenas if no agreement can be reached. The power of self-interest Time Warner Cable has not always had the reputation of a white knight when it comes to helping its subscribers—the company famously tried to squeeze more cash from broadband users by applying ridiculous data caps, an issue so sensitive to it eventually drew the wrath of senators and congressmen. But in this case, with its own self-interest also on the line, TWC has made an argument that strikes not just at a single subpoena but also at the overarching legal strategy behind the US Copyright Group's work. "

[Edited on May 15, 2010 at 3:12 PM. Reason : .]

5/15/2010 3:11:20 PM

why do we even have movie theaters any more? movies should be released on a per charge basis immediately when released.

5/15/2010 3:17:11 PM

greed

5/15/2010 3:27:09 PM

^^ Because some movies are worth seeing in the theater. This one, not so much.

5/15/2010 9:44:38 PM

^Hurt Locker? or Far Cry?

[Edited on May 15, 2010 at 9:51 PM. Reason : .]

5/15/2010 9:50:27 PM

I never saw Far Cry. The Hurt Locker was pretty good but not something I would run out to theaters to see. Generally I reserve the $texas theater ticket for special effect movies.

Or I just wait for things to come out in the $1 theater

5/15/2010 9:54:51 PM

Hurt Locker was absolutely worth a theater viewing for the sound if nothing else.

The opening explosion in particular rocked my world.

5/15/2010 9:56:42 PM

lol just watch, just watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf3HXeB2btg

5/17/2010 10:49:24 AM

Quote :

"“Hurt Locker” Producer Sends Scathing Email to Critic of Piracy Lawsuit; Hopes Family, Kids End Up in Jail "

http://www.dailytech.com/Hurt+Locker+Producer+Sends+Scathing+Email+to+Critic+of+Piracy+Lawsuit+Hopes+Family+Kids+End+Up+in+Jail/article18424.htm

Quote :

"A producer for "The Hurt Locker" goes postal after a Boing Boing reader questioned the need for a massive lawsuit against pirates Last week, we detailed a story involving piracy and the movie “The Hurt Locker”. Due to heavy piracy of the movie – even before it was even released in theaters – the producers decided to take the fight to pirates. According to reports, the producers are prepared to sue thousands of pirates and it has the backing of 75 percent of ISPs in the United States. Now, however, the situation is starting to heat up a bit. A Boing Boing reader sent Nicolas Chartier, President of Voltage Pictures (producers of “The Hurt Locker”), an email expressing his distaste with the fact that his company was going after pirates with a lawsuit. "I wish to register my disagreement with these tactics, and would like you to know that as a result of these actions I am boycotting your films. The majority of the people you are suing were not seeking to make money from their downloads," explained the reader. "While it is completely understandable that Voltage Pictures wishes to defend its intellectual property, this is an inhumane way of doing so." While we're unsure if the Boing Boing reader expected to actually hear back from Chartier, we're quite certain that he didn't expect to receive the over-the-top email response. Chartier responded, and he struck down with great vengeance and furious anger: Hi Nicholas, please feel free to leave your house open every time you go out and please tell your family to do so, please invite people in the streets to come in and take things from you, not to make money out of it by reselling it but just to use it for themselves and help themselves. If you think it's normal they take my work for free, I'm sure you will give away all your furniture and possessions and your family will do the same. I can also send you my bank account information since apparently you work for free and your family too so since you have so much money you should give it away... I actually like to pay my employees, my family, my bank for their work and like to get paid for my work. I'm glad you're a moron who believes stealing is right. I hope your family and your kids end up in jail one day for stealing so maybe they can be taught the difference. Until then, keep being stupid, you're doing that very well. And please do not download, rent, or pay for my movies, I actually like smart and more important HONEST people to watch my films. Chartier definitely got his point across, but it should be interesting to see how the pirates respond to such attacks."

5/19/2010 4:50:51 PM