This is evidence as to why a man's word is no longer his bond. If you tell someone you're going to do something, you should do it.

Say what you mean and mean what you say. Don't be a weasel.

7/12/2010 5:49:19 PM

i would like to take a moment to point out that the guy in the promise video plays the opening measure, moves up about 4 octaves on the keyboard and plays the next measure, but it sounds exactly the same.

i feel like there's a metaphor in there somewhere, but i don't feel like looking for it.

7/12/2010 7:02:37 PM

it means the promises appear to occur more frequently but really only happen the same number of times per second

7/12/2010 7:05:54 PM

promises keep hope

7/12/2010 9:03:50 PM

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"GeniuSxBoY: Man: Don't go shopping, we don't have money Woman: I know honey. Man: Well last time I told you this, you bought a shirt for $80. Woman: I know, but I couldn't help myself, it was on sale and it was sooo cute. Man: We don't have that kind of money! Woman: OKAY I GET YOUR FUCKING POINT I WONT BUY MYSELF ANYTHING EVER AGAIN!!!! (that next day) Man: Honey, can you please tell me why my credit card was declined when I went to pay for lunch? Woman: Well I felt bad about yesterday, so I bought 'us' some lingerie to make up for it! Man: FUCK. --- (punches wall) --- SHIT!"

WTF?

This is how it should go...

Man: Don't go shopping, we don't have money
Woman: Go fuck yourself.

7/12/2010 9:22:56 PM

7/12/2010 9:23:29 PM

i'm going to try to make more promises in the future

7/12/2010 9:39:26 PM

I promise to not make promises...

7/12/2010 11:06:51 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyBif6w-SiY

7/13/2010 5:58:36 AM

Quote :

"This is evidence as to why a man's word is no longer his bond. If you tell someone you're going to do something, you should do it. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Don't be a weasel."

Agreed, this non-committal shit is frustrating as hell

7/13/2010 6:36:25 AM

^ I think that's a load of crap.

What about the eleventy billion times she asks you when you are in the middle of concentrating on something else. (doing work @ desk, trying to fix something around the house, @ work doing work, drunk trying to relax, etc) Like it should be obvious that is a a bad time to come nag you about something you are not worried about, instead you get asked about doing it with an expectation that you respond immediately.

I am not falling for that shit I will say point blank lets talk about it later. (ie I dont care/ or I will talk about it later)

7/13/2010 7:47:37 AM

this thread is the story of my life. props to joshua

7/13/2010 9:36:16 AM

^^well my reference was to just people not staying by their word in general, my b

7/13/2010 9:38:57 AM

ITT guys make promises with either no intention of keeping promises or to always keep promises

i promise that statement is true

7/13/2010 9:46:37 AM

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"Pretty much, if you're not gonna do it, just say no. if you are, say yes."

Yeah, but you don't know what the future might hold. That could end up sucking very badly; hence the need for non-committal responses.

Her: Do you want to go to eat with my friend that you don't like and her creepy husband?
Me: Maybe. (Thinking: I'll do this if absolutely nothing better or more important comes up.)

...Three days later:
Friend: Yo, I got free tickets to see Slayer!!!!
Me: Sweet!!! I'm so there!
Her: But you said you'd go out with my friend that you don't like and her creepy husband!!!
Me: I said "MAYBE".

[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 9:57 AM. Reason : z]

7/13/2010 9:56:08 AM

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"Her: Do you want to go to eat with my friend that you don't like and her creepy husband? Me: Maybe. (Thinking: I'll do this if absolutely nothing better or more important comes up.)"

amen


See if you just say "no" then one of these scenarios plays out on the spot.

1) She makes a case for why you should do what she wants to do and you finally give in
2) You can go ahead and give an excuse for why you cant or don't want to (leaving the option of changing your mind later)
3) You go ahead and have a blow out argument about something insignificant, hey at least you are getting it out of the way......and she cant say you ever said you were gonna do it to begin with.

7/13/2010 10:09:51 AM

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"What about the eleventy billion times she asks you when you are in the middle of concentrating on something else. (doing work @ desk, trying to fix something around the house, @ work doing work, drunk trying to relax, etc) Like it should be obvious that is a a bad time to come nag you about something you are not worried about, instead you get asked about doing it with an expectation that you respond immediately. "

This! and ^ that.

also i hope what BridgetSPK said was a joke, but wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't.


The primary issue with all this is that women are too centered on what they want and what makes them happy. This is why women often shop, without consciousness of budget and why directly telling a woman no usually ends in some sort of discussion. I find this to be largely a cultural that is based around circular development. Women witness their fathers succumbing to their mothers in issues of discrepancy so they believe the actions witness are appropriate behavior, thus never learning the true value of compromise and in turn responding in a manner that is often self-serving (even though often presented as a "for us" agenda). Eventually these women become married and rather than fight and be made miserable their husbands choose to gin and bare thus teaching a new generation of women how to get their way.

7/13/2010 10:36:52 AM

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"gin and bare"

Don't forget the whiskey!

7/13/2010 10:49:40 AM

^^Go fuck yourself.

7/13/2010 11:06:57 AM

Quote :

"See if you just say "no" then one of these scenarios plays out on the spot. 1) She makes a case for why you should do what she wants to do and you finally give in 2) You can go ahead and give an excuse for why you cant or don't want to (leaving the option of changing your mind later) 3) You go ahead and have a blow out argument about something insignificant, hey at least you are getting it out of the way......and she cant say you ever said you were gonna do it to begin with. "

2 often leads to 1 anyways

1 can often lead to a very weak case, hinging on the belief "since he loves me, I can be imposing without having to feel guilty about it"

also:

Quote :

"What about the eleventy billion times she asks you when you are in the middle of concentrating on something else. (doing work @ desk, trying to fix something around the house, @ work doing work, video games, tv, internet, drunk trying to relax, etc) Like it should be obvious that is a a bad time to come nag you about something you are not worried about, instead you get asked about doing it with an expectation that you respond immediately. "

7/13/2010 11:45:50 AM

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"hard to believe you are single"

i lost it on page 1 at this point

7/13/2010 12:09:59 PM

This thread reminds me why I love my fiance. I pretty much never hear the charlie brown teacher voice when she talks. That was a huge issue in pretty much every other relationship I have ever been in.

7/13/2010 1:23:05 PM

i hear the charlie brown teacher voice whenever anyone talks

but it's usually replaced eventually with

7/13/2010 1:24:47 PM

Quote :

"Man: Honey, can you please tell me why my credit card was declined when I went to pay for lunch? Woman: Well I felt bad about yesterday, so I bought 'us' some lingerie to make up for it! Man: FUCK. --- (punches wall) --- SHIT!"

why are you buying lunch? maybe you should bring a sandwich..

---

do you people really have that much of a problem acting like rational adults?

7/13/2010 2:04:41 PM

no offense mcfluffle, but that's a pretty funny thing to hear from a woman, at least in a relationship-related thread

7/13/2010 2:05:44 PM

^^ Maybe he would bring a sammich if she would make him one every once in a while.

7/13/2010 2:07:24 PM

THE TRUTH COMES OUT:


sandwich deprivation itt

[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 2:17 PM. Reason : ^^i'm not so good at this girl thing ]

7/13/2010 2:09:45 PM

I promise I will go If you will git in that kitchen and make me a sammich!

7/13/2010 2:15:09 PM

I dont think I could heart this thread more

7/22/2010 2:00:56 AM

^ told his girl he might do something

7/22/2010 2:10:56 AM

I usually start by trying to confirm he'll actually do something when he says "I'll do X [for you]"

As in:

me: "hey, I need to do X"
him: "oh, I'll do X"
me: "really? I can do it now."
him: "oh no, forget about it, I'll do X"
me: "really? you won't forget?"
him: "don't worry about it. I've got X covered"

and then I wait to see what happens. Usually X is forgotten.

In such a case, I don't use the word "promised" unless it was used by him. But I will say, "did you remember something you'd said you do? X?"

yeeeahhhh

7/22/2010 4:49:20 AM

Here's how I handle situations like that ^


her: "hey, I need to do X"
me: "k, later"

7/22/2010 8:28:04 AM