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"lol, first it was bush's fault, now it's pelosi's fault?"

pelosi's been just fine.

this past year has shown just how cynical republican and conservative democrat senators are.

also how ridiculous the filibuster rule is when it is abused like it has been recently.

7/15/2010 12:17:14 AM

^ Maybe you like Pelosi, but she's pretty unpopular in polls. I realize that she probably does okay concerning favorability in her congressional district--but as speaker, a national figure, not so much.

7/15/2010 5:38:32 AM

she has done what she said she would do. and she has done it without much fanfare. what more can you ask for? much of the negativity about pelosi seems pretty sexist to be honest. and i'm not usually one to pull the sexism card.

7/15/2010 8:23:28 AM

^ Well, that's not where I'm coming from. And I'm perfectly willing to be governed by a gay black female as speaker or even president--as long as I agree with most of her positions.

7/15/2010 5:19:35 PM

i love this gif

7/15/2010 5:33:24 PM

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"much of the negativity about pelosi seems pretty sexist to be honest. and i'm not usually one to pull the sexism card."

I wouldn't say that as many of her most fervent detractors are supporters of sarah palin. But I don't think it's her policies as much as it is that she can be a pretty serious bitch. She pretty much outright said at one point "fuck you, we won, you lost, I'll do what I want", which is something that one could imagine Cheney saying.

7/15/2010 8:02:00 PM

[Edited on July 15, 2010 at 10:23 PM. Reason : ]

7/15/2010 10:17:52 PM

bump for hooksaw

keep them in here

7/24/2010 10:10:09 AM

I like how the assumption is that it's hate (or racism) towards the President, and not actual disagreements in policy. I'm sure Obama is a great guy and all. It's the whole destroying the country thing that I can't get on board with.

The economy is not going to recover or even begin recovering in the next 2 years. Things will be worse, and we'll still be losing jobs. I don't see Obama getting re-elected, but it could happen if the Republican candidate is awful enough.

7/24/2010 11:23:41 AM

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"It's the whole destroying the country thing that I can't get on board with."

hate hate hate hate

7/24/2010 12:56:57 PM

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"and we'll still be losing jobs."

This calls for throwing another log on the hater fire!



Why not make it a few logs?

7/24/2010 1:20:49 PM

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"I like how the assumption is that it's hate (or racism) towards the President, and not actual disagreements in policy. I'm sure Obama is a great guy and all. It's the whole destroying the country thing that I can't get on board with."

So your idea of a legitimate policy disagreement is that you think he's "trying to destroy the whole country".

You're an Obama hater, at least be honest about it.

7/24/2010 3:07:57 PM

I don't know if he's trying to or not. You already know what my economic outlook is, and the policies he's pursuing are, I believe, going to contribute the a substantial decrease in our standard of living. The right thing to do would be to run a balanced budget. He's moving in the opposite direction of that.

^^You're still posting that graph, dude? The "recovery" starts before any Obama initiatives even took effect. Then, when the government hires a bunch of temporary employees, that counts as job growth.

[Edited on July 24, 2010 at 3:45 PM. Reason : ]

7/24/2010 3:41:02 PM

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"I don't know if he's trying to or not."

You seemed very confident last post, why the doubt all of the sudden?

7/24/2010 3:50:42 PM

no, commie dumbass. he's confident that what Obama is doing will destroy the country. that's not the same as saying Obama is "trying to destroy the country." Reading is fundamental.

7/24/2010 4:04:24 PM

OH SHIT

THOSE ARE REALLY DIFFERENT

I AM A DUMBASS HERP DERP

7/24/2010 4:38:59 PM

actually, yes. yes they are. i'm not surprised that you don't see the difference.

7/24/2010 4:43:15 PM

TSB has become such a joke. Or maybe it always was.

7/24/2010 5:25:47 PM

what obama is trying to do is different from what obama is doing, ok

7/24/2010 5:27:28 PM

Quinnipiac: Obama Approval Hits New Low
July 21, 2010

http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2010/07/21/quinnipiac-obama-approval-hits-new-low/

I guess the haters--and a lot of other folks--are gonna hate Obama after all. Or at least disapprove of him.

7/24/2010 7:47:03 PM

I'm setting the line at Obama -100 electoral votes in 2012

[Edited on July 24, 2010 at 8:03 PM. Reason : lol]

7/24/2010 8:03:19 PM

I've noticed that every time his approval rating goes down by 1 or 2 points on any given poll for the first time, lots of stories get run as new all time low as if his polling is violently crashing all the time rather than having relative stability.

7/24/2010 8:33:30 PM

use your brain, Kris, or what's left of it...

it is possible that Obama is doing what he thinks is best... and that what he thinks is best might actually lead the country to ruin, even though he doesn't think it would do so. Thus, Obama wouldn't be "trying to destroy the country," all while actually doing so. "Trying" implies willful intent, dumbass.

as in, you tried to be smart, but you failed miserably and are thus dumb. But you aren't trying to be dumb. You just are dumb

7/24/2010 10:53:15 PM

^ how is Obama even accidentally destroying the country when by most metrics, things are better off since he took office?

7/24/2010 11:15:31 PM

because jobs numbers are the only metric that counts.
adding trillions to the debt doesn't matter...
fucking up healthcare beyond belief to the point where doctors are dropping patients doesn't count...
adding a new entitlement to the existing ones that we already can't afford doesn't count...
entrenching "too big to fail" and "public losses / private profits" doesn't count...
rewarding the banks that got us into this mess w/ the financial bill doesn't count...

but, yes, jobs are "up", even with the porkulous bill that never fucking worked and was just a nice handout to his buddies

7/24/2010 11:17:43 PM

Are those the roll-eyes of cognitive dissonance?

7/24/2010 11:19:13 PM

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"...all the time rather than having relative stability."

Pres. Obama's poll numbers are stable only among democratic voters.

Repub. support has dropped 28 pts since Feb. And, more importantly, Independent voter approval has dropped 21 pts.

The independents are mainly the ones who got Obama elected and they are finally wising up.

7/24/2010 11:38:55 PM

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"use your brain, Kris, or what's left of it... it is possible that Obama is doing what he thinks is best... and that what he thinks is best might actually lead the country to ruin, even though he doesn't think it would do so. Thus, Obama wouldn't be "trying to destroy the country," all while actually doing so. "Trying" implies willful intent, dumbass. as in, you tried to be smart, but you failed miserably and are thus dumb. But you aren't trying to be dumb. You just are dumb"

I think you're ignoring a crucial question, "What the hell is the difference?". I knew Bush meant well, but I still hated the guy, and I'm sure that you think the same of obama, but you still hate him.

7/25/2010 12:33:09 AM

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"aaronburro: adding trillions to the debt doesn't matter... fucking up healthcare beyond belief to the point where doctors are dropping patients doesn't count... adding a new entitlement to the existing ones that we already can't afford doesn't count... entrenching "too big to fail" and "public losses / private profits" doesn't count... rewarding the banks that got us into this mess w/ the financial bill doesn't count..."

Explain these further, please. And include links.

7/25/2010 12:50:55 AM

^^^ In support of what EarthDogg posted:

7/25/2010 10:14:11 AM

Now you're going to have to convince those independents that it's worth voting for Republican ideas in November. Otherwise, they'll stay home.

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"The bill passed because it was rammed through Congress so fast that no one had a chance to read it... "

We've been debating the issue for decades and this congress took from Spring of '09 till March of this year to put together the final bill. The haters weren't interested in reading it, they were going to oppose it no matter what since saying "well i like that....but not that....and i sorta like that" isn't going to turn out the base voters. Hell, the individual mandate was a GOP idea first pitched by the Heritage Foundation during the 1994 HC debacle.

The GOP (or any party, really) has to inspire conservatives by creating a resistance, because angry people vote. They did in '94, '06 and '08, and they will this year. Otherwise, they weren't going to have a chance to flip any house of congress.

Furthermore...

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"this past year has shown just how cynical republican and conservative democrat senators are."

Now I actually appreciate any moderating influences in a party. You can point out policy gripes with conservative Dems all you want, but every group needs moderating influences to actually achieve consensus and accomplish anything worthwhile. If they hadn't thrown out the Public Option, nothing would have passed at all. Any group that throws out its moderates risks playing too hard to its true believers and wingers and losing the center. The interesting thing will be seeing if moderate independents are really as likely to get out and vote to flip congress as some claim, especially considering how un-moderate the core of the GOP has become lately.


[Edited on July 26, 2010 at 10:31 AM. Reason : .]

7/26/2010 10:23:58 AM

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"The haters weren't interested in reading it,"

the people who fucking passed it never read it, lol

7/26/2010 6:57:22 PM

Tea party movement looks as though it's losing some steam
http://www.theday.com/article/20100725/OP04/307259799

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"Across the country it's clear that the tea party movement is leaking oil. Sen. John McCain, once in real trouble in his Arizona Republican primary with former congressman and teaparty candidate J.D. Hayworth, is now crushing old J.D. by 45 points. Marco Rubio, former speaker of the House in Florida, who has strong tea party backing, pushed current Gov. Charlie Crist out of the Republican Party Senate primary when polls had Rubio up by 30 points. Now running as an independent, Christ leads Rubio by 5 points - a 40-point swing. Here in Connecticut, in the most target-rich environment for Republicans in years, not one of the five congressional seats currently held by Democrats is in danger of falling. Locally, in the 2nd Congressional District, The Day's Ted Mann reports that not one of the three Republicans running has more than $20,000 to spend. Talk is cheap, unless you need to buy advertising. "

7/26/2010 7:14:57 PM

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