wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
2 I get called a redneck for calling out ignorant people?] 8/25/2010 2:02:16 PM |
LeonIsPro All American 5021 Posts user info edit post |
I believe you mean "2." 8/25/2010 2:03:27 PM |
kiljadn All American 44689 Posts user info edit post |
^^No, you are being a race/politic baiting fucking moron. That's why you got called a redneck.
Neither race nor politics has anything to do with people believing in witches, warlocks, the sun revolving around the earth, or being unable to read a map - but being a moron does.
And surprise, surprise... who looks the most like a fucking idiot in this thread? (hint: you)
[Edited on August 25, 2010 at 2:24 PM. Reason : .] 8/25/2010 2:23:09 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
wrong.
several of these are politically based. furthermore, ignorance is ignorance.
Quote : | "- Only 39% of Americans believe in evolution - 21% of Americans believe that witches/warlocks actually exist - 41% believe that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11 (Even though President Bush himself said that he wasn't) - 20% believe the Sun revolves around the Earth. - 63% of young Americans can't find Iraq on a map. 90% can't find Afghanistan. More than 30% can't find/don't know the continent that the Amazon River is in." |
8/25/2010 2:24:57 PM |
kiljadn All American 44689 Posts user info edit post |
None of that stuff is politically related at all, you fucking simpleton. 8/25/2010 2:28:24 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
don't mind him, he's just another proudly ignorant conservative 8/25/2010 2:29:42 PM |
Snewf All American 63348 Posts user info edit post |
What's political about NOT knowing geography?
Also, what's political about believing Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11? That's not an opinion or a political stance. It is patently false. 8/25/2010 2:30:02 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
These have nothing, whatsoever to do with politics? They are just completely random? You sir, are the simpleton.
41% believe that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11 (Even though President Bush himself said that he wasn't) 63% of young Americans can't find Iraq on a map. 90% can't find Afghanistan 8/25/2010 2:30:03 PM |
Snewf All American 63348 Posts user info edit post |
1. History / Current Events 2. Geography 3. Geography
Those things are tied up in politics but they aren't political. 8/25/2010 2:31:21 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Stuff like this is why it's so easy to hate people. Sun revolves around the earth... really? You believe that shit and you still get to vote? Unconscionable.
I'm really very strongly of the opinion that there should be some additional requirements to franchise than simply 18 year old citizen in good standing. 8/25/2010 2:31:21 PM |
elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
lol, none of those are politically based. Where Afghanistan is on a map? Politically based because politics created the borders of the country? WTF are you trying to say?
If you're a Democrat, Saddam Hussein didn't have anything to do with Sept 11th, but if you're a Republican, he did? No. Again, it has nothing to do with politics.
Snewf beat me to it.
My mind has been blown by the logical fallacies going on in this thread.
[Edited on August 25, 2010 at 2:32 PM. Reason : .] 8/25/2010 2:31:25 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
^,^^^the basis of asking them or the relevance of asking them is all about politics. those questions were not randomly selected. they were selected because they are politically relevant.
[Edited on August 25, 2010 at 2:33 PM. Reason : /] 8/25/2010 2:32:00 PM |
Snewf All American 63348 Posts user info edit post |
its not politics
its civics
a citizen of a country should know WHERE they are at war otherwise they've failed as a citizen regardless of their political beliefs 8/25/2010 2:33:35 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Doesn't matter one bit why they asked, the simple fact is that those aren't matters of opinion or altered by one's political leanings.
If I ask someone where California is on a map because it's in the news due to an upcoming ballot initiative on marijuana legalization, their opinion on the issue in no way changes whether or not they can locate the mother fucking state. 8/25/2010 2:34:22 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
political relevance. 8/25/2010 2:34:28 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2010/aug/19/poll-growing-number-incorrectly-call-obama-muslim-/
Quote : | "POLL: Growing number incorrectly call Obama Muslim, poll reveals
* By ASSOCIATED PRESS * Posted August 19, 2010
WASHINGTON — Americans increasingly are convinced — incorrectly — that President Barack Obama is a Muslim, and a growing number are thoroughly confused about his religion.
Nearly one in five people, or 18 percent, said they think Obama is Muslim, up from the 11 percent who said so in March 2009, according to a poll released Thursday." |
He's getting muslimier by the day!
8/25/2010 2:34:47 PM |
kiljadn All American 44689 Posts user info edit post |
You are the only fucking moron in this thread arguing the politic point. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together - again, not you - sees that idiocy spans well beyond any political boundaries. 8/25/2010 2:35:00 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
political relevance.
why weren't sweden, norway, chad, nigeria asked about, etc, etc, etc,?
political relevance.
[Edited on August 25, 2010 at 2:37 PM. Reason : .] 8/25/2010 2:35:52 PM |
LeonIsPro All American 5021 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ITT we discuss other people's problems because we're better than them? AMIRITE?" |
8/25/2010 2:37:20 PM |
kiljadn All American 44689 Posts user info edit post |
Even if that were the case, wouldn't it make sense that people would KNOW where the place was instead of NOT KNOWING?
No, apparently it wouldn't. Not to you, anyway, because you're just representative of that large percentage of Americans that is an absolute moron and doesn't know his dick from his fucking elbow. 8/25/2010 2:37:49 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
this thread is about ignorance, you know. 8/25/2010 2:38:29 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
It seems we all know, except you. 8/25/2010 2:39:09 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Oh, I know. The lot of you are all ignorant. 8/25/2010 2:39:36 PM |
Snewf All American 63348 Posts user info edit post |
I think Americans might need to know jack-deuce about Islam before they can decide whether someone is Muslim or not
nice video
but I can tell that guy's liberal bias based on his "gay accent" and all the books behind him 8/25/2010 2:39:42 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
so supplanter doesn't get flamed for his posting of an obama-ignorance video?
I wonder why? oh wait, because that one is probama and mine weren't.
! 8/25/2010 2:40:53 PM |
Snewf All American 63348 Posts user info edit post |
Why not Sweden, Chad, Nigeria, etc?
I'll reiterate:
Quote : | "a citizen of a country should know WHERE they are at war otherwise they've failed as a citizen regardless of their political beliefs" |
^ his video wasn't Pro Obama it simply exposed Obama as the WORST MUSLIM IN HISTORY
[Edited on August 25, 2010 at 2:41 PM. Reason : -]8/25/2010 2:41:03 PM |
kiljadn All American 44689 Posts user info edit post |
wdprice3 expresses his sentiment about Americans who:
Believe in evolution Don't believe in Witches & Warlocks Don't think Saddam Hussein had anything to do with the 9/11 attacks Don't believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth Can find Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Amazon river on a map
Also those who are black, and liberal, or who voted for President Obama
8/25/2010 2:41:43 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
thus.... ignorance of politically relevant issues/places/etc. 8/25/2010 2:41:54 PM |
elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You are the only fucking moron in this thread arguing the politic point. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together - again, not you - sees that idiocy spans well beyond any political boundaries." |
I am trying to articulate my absolute hatred for this point of view, but it frustrates me so much that I'm just going to stop typing and let the country polarize everything into a left vs right argument, including the knowledge of facts.8/25/2010 2:42:15 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
keep the personal attacks coming. they're great! 8/25/2010 2:43:20 PM |
Snewf All American 63348 Posts user info edit post |
just because something is politically relevant doesn't mean that it is NOT a geographic fact
if anything people should know MORE about countries in the news a lot like where they are, for example 8/25/2010 2:43:23 PM |
Tarun almost 11687 Posts user info edit post |
move 2 soapbox! 8/25/2010 2:43:32 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
when did I say that those weren't geography questions as well? I must have posted that when I blacked out, but I can't find it.
those questions weren't asked for geography knowledge only... they were asked because of.... political relevance.
[Edited on August 25, 2010 at 2:44 PM. Reason : .] 8/25/2010 2:44:20 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Barring political relevance (which I'll grant you is very likely the reason that the poll was conducted), the objective truth of the matter is that a high percentage of the American populace can't find a country on a map.
What is more disturbing is that because it is a country prominently featured on the news you can then infer that Americans are fundamentally disconnected from the actions of their own government.
This is problematic on many levels. 8/25/2010 2:44:36 PM |
elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
Snewf, give it up. At least those people are ignorant. You can teach someone who is ignorant, but not one who is stupid. 8/25/2010 2:45:33 PM |
kiljadn All American 44689 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "thus.... ignorance of politically relevant issues/places/etc." |
THE BASIS OF WHICH IS APPLICABLE ACROSS ALL PARTY AND RACIAL LINES, YOU COMPLETE FUCKING NINCOMPOOP
THERE ARE DUMB REPUBLICANS JUST LIKE THERE ARE DUMB DEMOCRATS
THE ONLY THING YOU'RE PROVING ITT IS THAT YOU ARE ONE OF THE FUCKING STUPID REPUBLICANS8/25/2010 2:46:21 PM |
Snewf All American 63348 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think this guy is stupid though
I think he's being willfully obstinate or trolling the lot of us 8/25/2010 2:47:10 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
wait wait wait. when did the OP become a left vs right issue? I said nothing about that. I just said the questions were politically motivated. 8/25/2010 2:47:29 PM |
stevedude hello 4763 Posts user info edit post |
USA #1 8/25/2010 2:50:20 PM |
elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
I can only hope our two party system crumbles sooner than later. I guess with fellow countrymen like more than half of those polled, evidence suggests the freethinker is pretty hard to come by. 8/25/2010 2:53:23 PM |
Snewf All American 63348 Posts user info edit post |
free thinker?
try thinker
intellectual curiosity is routinely punished in our culture 8/25/2010 2:54:02 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
if the questions were asked to further a political agenda, that doesn't make the questions themselves political.
if i ask 100 people if they smoke pot, b/c i'm in favor of legalizing it, that doesn't make their answer an issue of politics. 8/25/2010 2:55:48 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18166 Posts user info edit post |
I believe that there are witches because there are people who self-identify as such. I don't think they have magical powers beyond an uncanny ability to rebel against their parents, but yes, I believe that wiccans exist. And are stupid.
I'm pretty sure that about 20% of people polled were pulling the pollsters' legs. Either that, or they were paid by the government to feign stupidity so that the rest of the world will underestimate us or think that we're so stupid we're dangerous, so they'd better be nice.
[Edited on August 25, 2010 at 2:58 PM. Reason : ] 8/25/2010 2:57:23 PM |
elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
That's rather optimistic for a self-labeled Grumpy dude.
[Edited on August 25, 2010 at 3:00 PM. Reason : .] 8/25/2010 3:00:13 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18166 Posts user info edit post |
Oh no, people are incredibly stupid, but I'm not buying that they're so stupid that a fifth of them think the sun moves around the earth. 8/25/2010 3:01:39 PM |
kiljadn All American 44689 Posts user info edit post |
^I'll never forget this exchange that I had at school during the first Gulf War. I was in the 4th Grade, and it may well and truly be the first time that I was aware of giant gaps in intellect amongst people. Keep in mind I lived in a military town.
Me: Hey, is your dad going to the gulf?
Other kid: Yeah, he's gonna go over there and kill some of them Saudi Arabians!
Me: .... we're not fighting the Saudis, we're fighting Iraq.
Some other kid: NU-UH! It's on the NEWS! We're fighting SAUDI ARABIA!
Me:
Quote : | "intellectual curiosity is routinely punished in our culture" |
as is the pursuit of independent verification
I can't even express legitimate doubts about the source of information for things like Al Gore on global warming. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, just give me a better source than a dude who flunked out of religious college who made a few speeches about it. I don't go to McDonald's and ask them what the Colonel's secret recipe is, for Christ's sake.
[Edited on August 25, 2010 at 3:06 PM. Reason : .]8/25/2010 3:02:06 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
@OP don't pretend like your country gets off that easily
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1577511/Winston-Churchill-didnt-really-exist-say-teens.html 8/25/2010 3:08:53 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
^That's because The Doctor went back in time to WWII but was unable to stop him from being murdered by the Daleks...
And I contend, right now, that finding Iraq on a map is unnecessary, because soon we will rename it to whatever we want. Amirite?
I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message. 8/25/2010 3:31:08 PM |
LeonIsPro All American 5021 Posts user info edit post |
8/25/2010 3:36:42 PM |
Wickerman All American 2404 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "@obamaisjesus wow u sound like a nigga, your so ignorant, nobody will be able? to fix u" |
8/25/2010 4:24:25 PM |