play page 1 off, keyboard cat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J---aiyznGQ

10/9/2010 9:29:04 AM

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"Really, man? He even said that half of this was just the guy being an idiot. Do you think he would have gotten high on fucking meow meow if real drugs were an option?"

oh, really, half? that much, eh?

you morons DO realize that what they did was 100% CHOICE, yes? that means that it's 100% their fault

if they had the same viewpoint as you, i'm glad they're dead...we need more people with balls who man up to their mistakes than whiners who like to blame the big bad gubment for each and every shitty decision because mom and dad were too lazy to teach them responsibility

[Edited on October 9, 2010 at 9:31 AM. Reason : .]

10/9/2010 9:30:43 AM

this guy is totally responsible for his own death

with that said, nobody would have gotten hurt if he could have smoked a blunt

HOWEVER, I don't think he was seeking that kind of high
if he had been he would have gotten some K2 or Space

^ wow get all self-righteous!
calling people morons and saying you're glad two young men are dead




[Edited on October 9, 2010 at 9:33 AM. Reason : you're a real fucking asshole]

10/9/2010 9:32:37 AM

quagmire02 is, hands down, the biggest asshole on TWW.


[Edited on October 9, 2010 at 9:38 AM. Reason : ]

10/9/2010 9:38:21 AM

his righteous "self-determination" and "personal responsibility", while nice ideals, are just luxuries of the wealthy and the lucky

certainly people should aspire to be more responsible
but compassion is equally important

10/9/2010 9:43:00 AM

Id do some Meow Meow with snewf

10/9/2010 9:48:33 AM

well yeah

and we wouldn't OD on that shit and die like a bunch of chuckle heads

10/9/2010 9:55:34 AM

I know you can read my thoughts, boy.

Meow, Meow, Meow, Meow
Meow, Meow, Meow, Meow
Meow, Meow, Meow, Meow, Meow, Meow, Meow, Meow

10/9/2010 9:57:57 AM

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"wow get all self-righteous! calling people morons and saying you're glad two young men are dead"

do realize i qualified my statement with the qualification that if they felt that they should not be held 100% responsible for their actions...because what this country needs is more people with a sense of self-responsibility and fewer people like indy and d357r0y3r (and you, apparently) who feel that their actions are never completely a result of their own choices

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"quagmire02 is, hands down, the biggest asshole on TWW."

because i...endorse responsibility for one's own actions? yepper, I'M the asshole

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"his righteous "self-determination" and "personal responsibility", while nice ideals, are just luxuries of the wealthy and the lucky"

you are, without a doubt, too fucking retarded to have a conversation with..."wealth" and "lucky" are completely irrelevant to the fact that people are completely equal under "personal responsibility"...if you CHOOSE to do something, it matters not how much money you have, rich people are just as culpable as poor people

and in any case, these kids weren't poor...so what IS your point? that because i can afford to smoke pot without worrying about being caught or penalized that THEY should somehow be given a pass? what does my situation in life have to do with theirs in regards to a choice they made, knowing the possible consequences?

these kids were stupid and it really IS that simple...it's a shame that their stupidity had to end in their own deaths, but they knew what they were doing, what the possible outcomes were...they did a risk-benefit analysis and determined that the risk was worth the benefit

10/9/2010 10:02:00 AM

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"it matters not how much money you have, rich people are just as culpable as poor people"

ahahahahaha!

dude, this guy is hilarious!
where did you find him?

10/9/2010 10:04:48 AM

It's almost as if quagmire is some kind of "professional" internet asshole.
He somehow manages to seamlessly weave straw-men, personal attacks, heartlessness, denial, hypocrisy, and even sadism into his posts more efficiently than anyone else I've ever seen.

10/9/2010 10:07:22 AM

don't give him any credit

he's a fucking clown

that's all

10/9/2010 10:08:34 AM

They're not going to be held responsible for shit, man. They're dead. We're talking about the societal and legal pressures that resulted in their death. We know what they did was stupid. No one is denying that. We're trying to answer the question of why they turned to plant food rather than any other drug.

You are an asshole though, make no mistake. Don't talk about personal responsibility. Move your nanny state supporting ass to some part of the world where they'll appreciate your blind obedience.

10/9/2010 10:15:39 AM

the whole thing is tragic

but this

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"I don't always drink plant food, but when I do, I prefer meow meow."

BWAHAHAHAHA...well done, well done

10/9/2010 10:49:25 AM

#heylookquagmire'sfaggingitupagain

10/9/2010 10:56:31 AM

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"We're talking about the societal and legal pressures that resulted in their death."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"But they said I'd be cool if I did some drug, any drug! I want to be cool "

there were NO "pressures" for them to do what they did...there were societal and legal CIRCUMSTANCES that shaped their choice, but they were far from "pressured" to do jack shit

you call me uncompassionate for having no pity for two kids who knew the risk of their choice and chose to do it anyway...i call you pathetic in your apologetic attitude...it doesn't matter how many excuses you make for their poor judgment, your excuses are just OPINION...the FACTS are that these kids are 100% responsible for their own deaths...end of story

10/9/2010 11:06:33 AM

glad to see quagmire has such an unscientific attitude about minds and decisions

10/9/2010 11:14:33 AM

so, in your educated opinion...what is the science behind their choice? science generally requires evidence (facts) in order to generate a scientifically-sound conclusion...do you have evidence that they were pressured to do drugs at any cost? pressure that they were physiologically or mentally incapable of resisting?

10/9/2010 11:18:03 AM

quagmire must be right

because scientists that are right are totally cunty about it

10/9/2010 11:28:36 AM

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"what is the science behind their choice?"

probably a mixture of social forces, options limited by legality and economics, and their own dispositions. of course saying that is as vague as i could get and practically common-sense, but you seem committed to denying it.

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"do you have evidence that they were pressured to do drugs at any cost? pressure that they were physiologically or mentally incapable of resisting?"

It's pretty obvious nobody held a gun to their heads. i think there's probably two things going on here: (1) people don't have the liberty to release stress and fulfill the fairly natural desire to get fucked up in a safe and legal way, (2) probably a common effect of whatever causes 1 is the pressure we put on each other in general to succeed materially, to look a certain way, act a certain way, etc. Few people feel comfortable being themselves and that contributes a lot to the need to get fucked up now and again

10/9/2010 11:30:33 AM

it is interesting to consider WHY people (humanity) uses psychoactive substances
there's the obvious desirability of escapism

but what's going on with human beings that drugs are present in all cultures everywhere?

I think there might be a benefit to human beings using drugs

10/9/2010 11:44:27 AM

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"probably"

everything you say after this is complete and utter bullshit because you insisted on make this a "scientific" argument...provide facts and evidence or STFU and let's go back to where you and your dumbass pro-drug, anti-government compatriots pretend that the gubment is ultimately responsible for every negative drug-related incident, okay?

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"a mixture of social forces, options limited by legality and economics, and their own dispositions"

no shit...but not one of those things you listed are evidence that their choice was anything BUT their choice in its entirety

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"you seem committed to denying it."

i deny that your opinion is anything but, yes

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"there's the obvious desirability of escapism"

of course...i, for one, play video games (sometimes...it's been several months ) or read a book...sometimes i listen to music

none of those choices, though, have a significant risk of death for the average human being (though i do go backpacking quite a bit, which is inherently more dangerous)...so what it boils down to is that they chose a dangerous activity to satisfy a desire that most human beings experience despite the fact that there were a plethora of alternatives that were safer, if not so "exciting"...risk and the level of excitement are, in most cases, linked...unless they were completely incapable of determining risk levels, they chose to risk for the anticipated result

they chose wrong

[Edited on October 9, 2010 at 12:07 PM. Reason : grammar]

10/9/2010 12:06:02 PM

not all drugs have a significant risk of death

in fact, most drugs do not if the person has the correct information

the policies that make drugs illegal also suppress information about the safe use of these substances

10/9/2010 12:15:38 PM

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"not all drugs have a significant risk of death in fact, most drugs do not if the person has the correct information the policies that make drugs illegal also suppress information about the safe use of these substances"

dude, i AGREE with you...i'm not at all trying to turn this into a "drugs are bad, mkay?" kind of thing...i'm pointing out that even if you disagree with the regulations/laws that "kept" them from smoking pot (most likely the fact that the one dude is going into the military), it's not like they HAD to pick a much more dangerous option

i have done a 180° on my view of pot from what it was 5 years ago...maturity and education have caused me to believe that pot should be legalized and taxed to high heavens...but i will never believe that the choice to do drugs (whatever the drug) absolves the person of the consequences of such

this isn't a pot vs. mephedrone argument...it's an argument of personal responsibility

i truly believe that this is a tragedy...but they knew what they were doing (or should have and chose not to) and the result of their choice is 100% their fault (unless otherwise demonstrated that they received the wrong drug or something...in any case, this "it's the government's fault" bullshit is utterly retarded)

10/9/2010 12:39:37 PM

If weed was legal maybe they wouldve bought some and this wouldve never happened

at the same time, just because weed is illegal, it doesnt mean i'm not a fucking moron if i go buy some Clorox Bleach and drink the shit to try and get high and die from it

10/9/2010 12:47:16 PM

I'd probably do some bubbles with TT10 too

10/9/2010 12:48:58 PM

we'll get down on the fire escape at the Wilmont

10/9/2010 12:49:56 PM

MEOW MEOW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b_soJtBCq8

[Edited on October 9, 2010 at 12:52 PM. Reason : LOL I didn't realize this song was about this shit until just now ]

10/9/2010 12:52:38 PM

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"This is not a? song. This is a cat stuck in a subwoofer."

10/9/2010 12:54:35 PM

You're still not getting it. No one is saying that the government made this guy OD. We're pointing out that policy has real, life and death consequences.

10/9/2010 1:03:25 PM

Or we could not do recreational drugs.

...just sayin'.

10/9/2010 1:04:19 PM

for reals though, how can you go to a college with 30,000 undergrads and not be able to find a bag of chron

10/9/2010 1:06:50 PM

The US drug policy is the root of the problem and it leaves young men dead.

10/9/2010 1:09:59 PM

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"You're still not getting it. No one is saying that the government made this guy OD. We're pointing out that policy has real, life and death consequences."

the policy is inert...the policy does not FORCE anyone to do anything, therefore it cannot possibly kill people

it's like saying speed limits get people killed...whether you agree with the speed limit or not, it's people violating it that actually get people killed

10/9/2010 1:31:14 PM

^Speed limits are in place to protect the public. You not following the speed limit has consequences that can affect others. People who chose to use drugs in a safe manner are not putting other people's lives in danger. US drug policy keeps drugs underground, and the purity of illegal drugs is not regulated, making it much more likely for a "responsible" user to get hurt and/or killed.

10/9/2010 1:48:35 PM

^ your points are completely irrelevant because what it DOES boil down to is the CHOICE to do drugs in the first place...we're not talking about something necessary to life, we're talking about something recreational and extraneous

realize that i'm not defending US drug policy...i'm trying to point out the fact that this fuck up was solely the RESPONSIBILITY of the kids...they died because they were stupid...they had a choice in the matter and no one forced them to be stupid...unless you're arguing that there drug was tainted in an unexpected way, in which case i'd like to see some evidence to this effect...otherwise, they knew what they were getting into

i'm really surprised how many of you can't comprehend that if you can't accept the consequences of your actions, you probably shouldn't do it in the first place

[Edited on October 9, 2010 at 1:55 PM. Reason : .]

10/9/2010 1:53:37 PM

the first page of this thread is pretty funny

fuck reading though the second page though

10/9/2010 1:55:14 PM

^ i'll summarize: quagmire02 thinks they deserved to die because he doesn't believe the government forced them to do drugs

10/9/2010 1:56:22 PM

oh

sure

you die slurping weed n' feed, i'm gonna do nothing but lol

[Edited on October 9, 2010 at 2:04 PM. Reason : IMMA GRIP AND SIP]

10/9/2010 2:02:24 PM

man what a clueless prick who has the time for this quagmire fellow

10/9/2010 2:08:57 PM

^ i guess that's all you're left with when i point out that there is no other choice to but hold them responsible for...*gasp*...THEIR OWN ACTIONS

but hey, keep saying the gubment is directly responsible for the death of two kids too stupid to know when to opt out

10/9/2010 2:29:11 PM

This guy knows all about the meow meow.

[Edited on October 9, 2010 at 2:44 PM. Reason : .]

10/9/2010 2:44:10 PM

10/9/2010 2:57:00 PM

Brawndo's got what plants crave.

10/9/2010 3:14:51 PM

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"hold them responsible for...*gasp*...THEIR OWN ACTIONS"

you fucking prick, I think it is clear that they are responsible for their actions and have paid for it

10/9/2010 3:44:32 PM

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"it is interesting to consider WHY people (humanity) uses psychoactive substances there's the obvious desirability of escapism"

duh. they were on a fire escape.

10/9/2010 3:48:59 PM

anyone who cleary ODs on plant food(as well as anything else) deserves to die.

i do however feel bad for their families

[Edited on October 9, 2010 at 3:52 PM. Reason : po[]]

10/9/2010 3:51:49 PM

^^^ indy disagrees with you:

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"Blame for the deaths: 50% poor judgement 25% drug prohibition -- unnecessary piss tests 25% drug prohibition: -- unregulated drug quality and dosage"

McDanger and d357r0y3r and you have all intimated that the government is at least partly to blame for what is undeniably an action that was complete and utter choice on the behalf of the deceased...that's a whole lot of stupid for one thread

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"anyone who cleary ODs on plant food(as well as anything else) deserves to die. i do however feel bad for their families"

i disagree with the notion of "deserves," but i certainly agree with the idea that they deserve no pity for choosing stupid over common sense

and, of course, my heart goes out to the families...aside from losing children, they have to deal with the fact that they're kids were idiots

[Edited on October 9, 2010 at 3:54 PM. Reason : .]

10/9/2010 3:53:19 PM

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"but i certainly agree with the idea that they deserve no pity for choosing stupid over common sense "

let me backpedal. and say die is a strong word.

10/9/2010 3:57:01 PM

LOL @ Mr. Joshua

It was entirely their fault, but it would be nice if the government wouldn't lock you up for doing things to your own body. This may not have occurred if they had been able to legally get/use some mdma.

and

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"THEY ARE KIDS WERE IDIOTS"

[Edited on October 9, 2010 at 4:04 PM. Reason : boop]

10/9/2010 4:03:09 PM