Nah it was snow speeders.

Much smaller and weaker than real fighters.

10/13/2010 12:41:02 PM

Good thing that the snowspeeders had a rear gunner whose only job was shooting the tow rope.

10/13/2010 12:47:57 PM

"Hey everyone, did you hear that? Dack's got this!"

"You know it bitches!!....Hey Empire, get ready to suck some Dack!"

10/13/2010 12:51:36 PM

so per this thread and as everyone agrees upon, the only way you can catch the snitch and lose is if you give up or if you're not paying attention

either way that makes it a flawed game

Quote :

"I really honestly don't think you understand the game."

I really honestly don't think you understand sports

[Edited on October 13, 2010 at 1:01 PM. Reason : .]

10/13/2010 12:56:43 PM

this thread is Dork 101

10/13/2010 12:58:58 PM

ya, i just love how it got derailed

10/13/2010 1:02:18 PM

i for one am loving both conversations that are taking place itt

10/13/2010 1:08:25 PM

I like to circle around and take your mom from the rear!

10/13/2010 1:09:07 PM

Anyone want to talk about WoW or DnD while we are at it?

10/13/2010 1:10:36 PM

or what it means to frequently post on a message board?

10/13/2010 1:13:34 PM

10/13/2010 1:15:38 PM

^^ DnD already has the Flyleaf v. Paramore thread

10/13/2010 1:16:05 PM

I like to circle around and take your mom from the rear!

10/13/2010 4:38:50 PM

Quote :

"You just don't understand. You need to read the books to understand how exciting the game is."

This was the funniest thing I've read on this site all week.

10/13/2010 4:50:37 PM

Quote :

"those shields were too strong for those blasters "

this

and although I remember in that star wars game for n64 you could slowly piece away at one with your blasters but it took like 20 minutes, I guess that was accurate

10/13/2010 5:17:41 PM

I just read up on the rules of Quidditch on wikipedia

stupid ass game

10/13/2010 5:19:09 PM

10/13/2010 5:20:05 PM

Quote :

"Anyone want to talk about WoW "

Well, they did just launch a major, game changing patch yesterday.

10/13/2010 6:47:32 PM

yah, at first I hated what they did with my ret pally, figured it out today and love it

10/13/2010 6:53:05 PM

10/13/2010 7:06:57 PM

Besides, Luke took one out with just a lightsaber and a grenade and he wasn't even a jedi yet. It seems like they could just give every yokel a grenade and lightsaber and take out the AT-ATs.

As much as they praise General Veers for winning the Battle of Hoth, it's surprising the poor planning that went into, even after the blunder made by Admiral Ozzel.

10/13/2010 7:24:02 PM

^But Admiral Ozzel felt that surprise was wiser... who knew the rebels would have a shield strong enough to deflect any bombardment. They should have used one of those on Alderaan if it could deflect anything.

[Edited on October 13, 2010 at 11:27 PM. Reason : .]

10/13/2010 11:26:54 PM

I don't think that's true. Vader executed Ozzel because he came out of hyperspace too soon, ruining the element of surprise and allowing the rebels to raise their shield. I'd assume that due to the ubiquitous nature of shields in the Star Wars universe that most military planners would treat any installation like it had a shield, especially after the loss of the first Death Star.

Though I digress; this discussion is about tactical errors during the Battle of Hoth, not larger strategic errors during the greater Galactic Rebellion.

10/13/2010 11:57:04 PM

george lucas is an ignorant chump

you all are military masterminds

10/14/2010 12:01:09 AM

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"^But Admiral Ozzel felt that surprise was wiser... who knew the rebels would have a shield strong enough to deflect any bombardment. They should have used one of those on Alderaan if it could deflect anything. "

Alderaan had shields able to withstand just about any fleet bombardment, but nothing that could stand up to the Death Star.

That's one of the few tactical advantages of the Death Star (mostly it was a terror weapon). It was the ultimate siege breaker.

10/14/2010 1:43:58 AM

They didn't have enough dilithium.

10/14/2010 2:23:06 AM

^^^^I still agree with Admiral Ozzel. At the time the probe droid discovered the rebels on Hoth, the snowspeeders weren't even working yet, hence why they couldn't go flying around to find Luke right away. Even with the shields up, with no snowspeeders, the AT-ATs could have gotten into the base much faster and caught more of the fleet. Admiral Ozzel just had bad luck, in this alternate scenario he would have been a genius for coming out of hyperspace right next to Hoth instead of approaching slowly and silently.

[Edited on October 14, 2010 at 8:46 AM. Reason : If the snowspeeders were still busted by the time the imperial fleet arrived]

10/14/2010 8:45:05 AM

So on the quidditch discussion... I've only seen each Harry Potter film once so I never really understood how the game is played.

So they've got the three rings and if they get the ball through the hoops they get some points... that's cool I understand that. But the entire time the game is being played Harry is going after the snitch... once he (or I guess the other team) catches it, his team gets 150 points and the game is over. So what's the point of throwing the balls through the holes? It always takes people like 5 mins to catch the snitch and by then the rest of the team has scored like 8 points.

Why even bother trying to score through the hoops... why not just focus on getting the snitch? And if the games only ever last 5 mins why is it supposedly so exciting?

10/14/2010 8:58:26 AM

In the book I think I remember them talking about some matches lasting more than a day but they don't say how often this happens. I guess the players are all sitting down the whole time anyway so its not like they'd get tired that fast.

10/14/2010 9:02:33 AM

I think the games are supposed to be longer than 5 minutes, they just don't have time to put a full length sports event in the middle of a movie.

Kind of like how the final game of The Waterboy is like 15 minutes instead of a couple hours (and all the other games are like 2 minutes).

10/14/2010 9:10:49 AM

^^^ read the wikipedia, it's (not surprising) extremely nerdy and informative

the balls through the hoops are worth 15 points each. still doesn't change the fact that you could have a shit team and an awesome seeker and win the majority of games

10/14/2010 9:14:04 AM

^Well the difference is that in sports movie, the games actually appear to be a few hours long. It has different cuts edited to it and it shows different plays, people scoring, the final score, etc. In the Harry Potter movies, it usually just follows him for a few mins and prior to him catching the snitch, each side has scored like twice. From the pace of the game, it looks like they should be scoring as much as you would in basketball.

So is catching the snitch the only way to end the game?

10/14/2010 9:17:12 AM

Yea, the way they film it, it feels like you're following Harry's experience of the game in real-time. They cut away to someone scoring through the hoops and then cut back to Harry exactly where he was when we cut away. I guess the filmmakers don't "get" sports either.

10/14/2010 9:24:50 AM

Y'all are just a mess.

10/14/2010 9:29:16 AM

10/14/2010 9:45:18 AM