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"anyways, are there different types of glass for watches? I love my watch but the glass is scratched to hell... are there different types? something harder/scratch resistant? cost?"

this is what I found about it - http://nitewatches.com/faqs.asp#a12

"The glass cover over the watch face is called the crystal. There are three types of crystals commonly found in watches: acrylic crystal is an inexpensive plastic that allows shallow scratches to be buffed out. Mineral crystal is composed of several elements that are heat-treated to create an unusual hardness that aids in resisting scratches. Sapphire crystal is the most expensive and durable, approximately three times harder than mineral crystals and 20 times harder than acrylic crystals. A non-reflective coating on some sport styles prevents glare."

11/7/2010 2:25:05 PM

sapphire is the most resistant to scratches; it is also the most likely to shatter

11/7/2010 2:30:19 PM

hmm, I wonder what mine has... I would expect the mid-grade from above... but I don't know

11/7/2010 2:50:50 PM

If you wanted something decent quality automatic (and the new trendy fairly big style)

http://www.amazon.com/Seiko-Mens-Watches-Divers-SKX779K1/dp/B0010R36US/ref=sr_1_3?s=watches&ie=UTF8&qid=1289161191&sr=1-3

will take care of you.

On a personal note, if you don't wear your watch every day, and dont want to deal with a winder, buy a quartz model. Sure they don't have that horistic charm, but they will run and you don't need to fuck with them.

Features to look for are probably based on what you do, I prefer a sapphire crystal if you can get it.


is my daily wear (usually rubber)



[Edited on November 7, 2010 at 3:34 PM. Reason : Have fun]

11/7/2010 3:20:35 PM

follow up questions.

1) how much is it to get the crystal replaced?
2) any local (raleigh) recommendations?

11/7/2010 3:34:42 PM

as much as i like the idea of having a sapphire crystal, my watch was only ~$120 new...i'm betting a new crystal would cost AT LEAST half that including installation...actually, that's probably off-base...it's probably $100+ for the actual crystal and installation by someone skilled and knowledgeable enough to install it and put it back together with the seals intact

11/7/2010 4:04:28 PM

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"One of my biggest complaints in life is not having a watch that I can take below 12,000 feet when I go swimming."

Haha... and if that 12,800 foot Rolex won't do because you want to go deeper, then here is a 20,000 foot watch!

http://www.stauer.com/item/Swiss-Military-20,000-Feet-Ultimate-Dive-Watch/18518/3

Quote :

"^^ What makes that one special other than the fact that it's a Rolex? Is it like an incredible diving watch or something? Not a bad looking watch, but for $8k, I could find one that looks alot better (Again, unless this is some ultimate diving watch. I'm guessing it is from the "Original Gas Escape Valve Ring Lock System" stamp and the fact that it's caled the "DeepSea")"

Dude... read EVERYTHING on the dial... it is waterproof to nearly 2.5 miles!!!

11/7/2010 5:15:08 PM

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"I don't really like Rolexes, used to sell alot but they have to go in for work and are alot of $$ for upkeep. "

I think the last time I sent one in for service, it was about $800. That included complete disassembly, cleaning, lube, polishing, recalibration and any parts replacement (if needed). The factory service interval is around 3-5 years. I usually send mine in around 7-8 years just due to timing. You will notice that the watch will lose more time the longer you wait.

They are not the best watches in the world. They are the most recognized, even in a third-world country. They can be bartered for cash, where other watches could not.

The Sea Dweller is ok as a watch, but it's big as shit and heavy (personal preference). The regular Submariner is a nice size and a good weight. I would not take that watch diving anyway, as it's useless (as most status symbols are). I would need something with tritium that would at least provide it's own illumination.

11/7/2010 7:55:58 PM

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"I think the last time I sent one in for service, it was about $800."

even if i had enough money that spending $800 to "service" my wristwatch of all things wasn't a big deal, i'd never waste the money on a rolex...there are MUCH better watches for less money

i don't need status symbols

[Edited on November 7, 2010 at 8:05 PM. Reason : if you can afford an $8k watch, why would you ever need to barter it for cash?]

11/7/2010 8:05:12 PM

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"if you can afford an $8k watch, why would you ever need to barter it for cash?"

actually, the subject came up the other day. if you decided to sail alone and you got into a jam (boat capsize, blown overboard, etc..) what would someone need (that they could wear) that would be worth something if they required assistance (boat repairs, medical service, etc...).

remote and a bit silly, but possible.

11/7/2010 8:22:05 PM

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"^^ What makes that one special other than the fact that it's a Rolex? Is it like an incredible diving watch or something? Not a bad looking watch, but for $8k, I could find one that looks alot better (Again, unless this is some ultimate diving watch. I'm guessing it is from the "Original Gas Escape Valve Ring Lock System" stamp and the fact that it's caled the "DeepSea")"

Nobody buys a Rolex out of need. You buy it because you want it. I could drive a civic instead of BMW M3 and save on maintenance, gas, insurance etc. I don't need a bimmer, but I want one. Life is short and some of us like to enjoy finer things in life.

I also happen to live in a war torn country 15 years ago where inflation made money completely worthless. My family made out of harms way because of personal possessions - namely two cars. You learn a thing or two about what's important in life. Rolex is one. j/k

To Seotaji's point, you never know when and where you will need to use that possession. I think every person should have at least one personal possession that is relatively valuable. Money is just paper after all that is not even backed up by gold anymore. You can't exactly take a house with you anywhere. It is not liquid. My whole philosophy on this subject can go off tangent now, but I also don't buy anything that I would have to finance. If I can't buy it outright, I don't buy it.

Back to deepsea - I happen to like its size and weight. I have fairly large and muscular foreams/hands so it fits well (I tried one out). Rolex is also the only watch maker that uses 3x more expensive 904 stainless steel which is superior to 316 steel used on other watches like Omega. 904 steel is typically used where components come into contact with corrosive substances. No, I will not be dipping my hands in acid, but it is neat that they pay attention to detail.

[Edited on November 7, 2010 at 10:02 PM. Reason : o]

11/7/2010 10:01:58 PM

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"904 steel is typically used where components come into contact with corrosive substances. No, I will not be dipping my hands in acid, but it is neat that they pay attention to detail."

I thought the same thing.

Salt water is rather corrosive.

11/7/2010 10:36:26 PM

dammit amazon is sending me emails about watch deals now because it knows what I've been looking at. Lots of citizen eco drive watches.

11/7/2010 10:58:31 PM

^^yes, it is! actually my official Lamborghini Tonino watch, which is 316SS, started to corrode around bezel edges. I wear it daily and salt from the sweat is starting to eat it away.

11/8/2010 12:22:54 AM

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"Rolex uses 904L steel primarily for marketing purposes, to differentiate their product, but it does technically offer additional corrosion resistance. 904L is has copper added, which greatly improves resistance to strong reducing acids, as well as chloride. 904L is non-magnetic in all conditions and has excellent weldability and formability. The austenitic structure also gives this grade excellent toughness, even down to cryogenic temperatures. 904L does have a very substantial amount of nickel and molybdenum, and this is what really adds to its cost. "

mostly marketing, ^ wow, I have never heard of someone's sweat corroding thier SS watch

11/8/2010 1:27:29 AM

lol @ watch corroding due to sweat. All I can say is that none of my Omegas/Breitlings are corroding, and I live next to a freaking beach. While the 306SS is less prone to corroding, you're more than likely would never encounter such situation, just like the depth difference between deepsea dweller and submariner. It doesn't matter because it's not humanly possible to dive that deep.

11/8/2010 7:30:26 AM

Quote :

"Nobody buys a Rolex out of need. You buy it because you want it. I could drive a civic instead of BMW M3 and save on maintenance, gas, insurance etc. I don't need a bimmer, but I want one. Life is short and some of us like to enjoy finer things in life."

this is a poor analogy...a bimmer is "better" than a civic in any number of ways, but what it comes down to is that they perform better in almost every way

an $8k rolex does NOTHING better than any number of watches that are half the price (as linked to earlier, you can get one that is waterproof to greater depths)...additionally, titanium is arguably better than ANY stainless steel because all stainless steel is comparatively more susceptible to corrosion than titanium

so the "finer thing" in this respect is nothing but status...only posers have to pay for status

11/8/2010 8:21:07 AM

wow, so based on that philosophy we should all drive civics, wear timex, dress at kmart and payless shoes. you are a class A tard.

you obviously have zero knowledge about watches to make ignorant statements about most prestigious watch marque. you ever wandered why on ebay there are hundreds of 50+ year old vintage rolex, omegas, tags and other premium swiss watches?

11/8/2010 9:53:37 AM

I would not get a Citizen watch. My wife got me a $200 one for my NC State graduation, I do not know what model or anything else, and within a couple of years, the inside parts that mark the hours started falling off.

I sent it off to Citizen under their 5 year warranty and they said that this is the only claim I could process and after this, my warranty is no longer valid. They also tried to make me pay a service fee of ~$50, but I argued with them and they waived it. Anyway after getting my watch back with the hours pieces back in place, they started falling off again within a couple months. Shitty. Needless to say I will never buy a Citizen.

I'm sure the Eco Drives are probably made much better, but I just think spending that much on a damn watch is ridiculous.



[Edited on November 8, 2010 at 10:10 AM. Reason : df]

11/8/2010 10:09:35 AM

^^^,^^ Pretty much comes down to personal preferences I think here.

I tend to also see an expensive watch as a waste, but I don't like or wear watches period so my opinion doesn't mean much here.

If I did wear a watch, I'd fall into the "Civic and Timex" category in that I can find lots of other things to spend my money on than a piece of jewelry/a status symbol. In other words, I wouldn't be buying any kind of "nice" watch no matter how much money I had

That being said, the kind of stuff that I like spending money on (nice vacations with my wife, musical equipment that I utilize etc.) doesn't appeal to everyone either. Just different strokes.

[Edited on November 8, 2010 at 10:11 AM. Reason : .]

11/8/2010 10:11:08 AM

Quote :

"I sent it off to Citizen under their 5 year warranty and they said that this is the only claim I could process and after this, my warranty is no longer valid. They also tried to make me pay a service fee of ~$50, but I argued with them and they waived it. Anyway after getting my watch back with the hours pieces back in place, they started falling off again within a couple months. Shitty. Needless to say I will never buy a Citizen. I'm sure the Eco Drives are probably made much better, but I just think spending that much on a damn watch is ridiculous."

Dude, that sucks. Coserv is the company that is authorized to service your watch. I have had nothing but good service from them, but I can see that you have not. Did you send a letter to Citizen? I usually get great results by sending a letter to the head of the company.

I had a Seiko Kinetic that had watch band issues. While the service center couldn't do anything for me, (after receiving my letter) the company agreed that I should get something different and replaced it.a

[Edited on November 8, 2010 at 10:56 AM. Reason : d]

11/8/2010 10:55:52 AM

Quote :

"wow, so based on that philosophy we should all drive civics, wear timex, dress at kmart and payless shoes. you are a class A tard."

no, not at all...see, i can tell you have trouble with reading comprehension because that's not at all what i said

what i very specifically pointed out is that there are many more significant differences between a bmw and a civic (come on, kid, you hang out in the garage...how is that i know this and you don't?)...if your ONLY reason for buying a bmw is so that people think you have you have money and you need their approval, then yes, i think you're pathetic and you have my pity

i encourage you to read again and actually try thinking about the words instead of ignoring them completely and getting butthurt that someone thinks you're an idiot for wanting a rolex for the simple reason that it will make you feel better about yourself

Quote :

"you obviously have zero knowledge about watches to make ignorant statements about most prestigious watch marque. you ever wandered why on ebay there are hundreds of 50+ year old vintage rolex, omegas, tags and other premium swiss watches?"

okay, educate me! i don't claim to be a watch aficionado and you obviously think you are

please tell me what an $8k rolex can DO (other than fulfill your need for acceptance and admiration, i mean) that a $1k or even $4k watch CAN'T do...please, i want to be as smart as you, so i'll wait while you scour teh intarwebs for something that isn't "it's a rolex, it doesn't HAVE to be better!"

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"Pretty much comes down to personal preferences I think here."

oh, absolutely...i suppose the difference is that while i wouldn't waste my money on a $50k bmw, i can at least recognize that you get something other than looks or status from such

i also admit that i look down on people who have such poor self esteem that they need to get a piece of jewelry that does NOTHING better than its 50-90% cheaper counterparts just to feel good about themselves...what can i say? when you can have form AND function for less, status seems like a hollow and expensive feature

[Edited on November 8, 2010 at 11:00 AM. Reason : .]

11/8/2010 10:57:22 AM

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"what i very specifically pointed out is that there are many more significant differences between a bmw and a civic"

You did? Where did you specifically pointed out these differences? Certainly not in your previous post.

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"if your ONLY reason for buying a bmw is so that people think you have you have money and you need their approval, then yes, i think you're pathetic and you have my pity"

You are an idiot. Where did I say this?

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"i encourage you to read again and actually try thinking about the words instead of ignoring them completely and getting butthurt that someone thinks you're an idiot for wanting a rolex for the simple reason that it will make you feel better about yourself "

Really? Where did I say I am buying a rolex so I can feel better about myself? What I did say is that I would like to buy it because I want it. It is a nice timepiece made by watch making pioneers.

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"okay, educate me! i don't claim to be a watch aficionado and you obviously think you are"

Certainly, not here to educate you. You can do that yourself. I am just pointing out that you are ignorant. You cannot intelligently debate with a person who has no knowledge of the subject.

Quote :

"please tell me what an $8k rolex can DO (other than fulfill your need for acceptance and admiration, i mean) that a $1k or even $4k watch CAN'T do...please, i want to be as smart as you, so i'll wait while you scour teh intarwebs for something that isn't "it's a rolex, it doesn't HAVE to be better!""

For me to tell you what it can do, I would have to educate you. Start reading watch forums about watch movement, movement reliability, features, materials, history, resale values etc.

Yes, casio and timex will tell you the time (actually way more accurately than Rolex), just like Rolex will. Ferrari F50 also has 4 wheels, wipers, and a steering wheel like civic and can get you from point A to point B. In order to distinguish the differences you have to have at least basic knowledge of subjects you are comparing. A car is also not a watch. You can argue that car is more practical than watch as a form of utility, therefore differences between the models will be more important to an average person. You can also make a case that however much better BMW is comparison to a civic in automotive terms, that's how much better a Rolex is in comparison to Timex in horology terms.


I don't give a shit that you don't appreciate the differences. At least I am not passing judgment because somebody is wearing a Timex. You are coming in the thread about watches to troll and tell people what they should or shouldn't like. I like all watches. I would also rock an old Casio with a calculator. Labeling Rolex owners as posers is about as ignorant as it gets.

I think it is universally accepted that spending money on travel or family is far more useful than spending money on a watch. I DO NOT own a Rolex, because it is not within my budget as there are other things I NEED to buy before I can afford a Rolex. That is not say that I do not WANT a Rolex.

For same reason I do not own a Ferrari, but a BMW because it was within my budget. I own it because I appreciate differences over a civic. I also appreciate what is Ferrari over a BMW and if I can afford it, I will probably get it one day.

GET IT?


[Edited on November 8, 2010 at 12:52 PM. Reason : I also find it funny you are calling me a kid when you are 4 years younger than me]

11/8/2010 12:48:27 PM

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"Certainly, not here to educate you. You can do that yourself."

haha, i stopped there...your argument is "rolex is better than other watches half the price because i said so! and other people say so! that's all that matters!"

let me know when you feel like numerating the differences between an $8k rolex and a $4k any-other-respected-name-brand that make it so vastly superior...until then, you're just a schmuck who craves the attention only a ridiculously overpriced piece of jewelry can provide and your opinion means less than mine (because at least i have the "the other options are all cheaper" argument)

11/8/2010 1:06:26 PM

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"i also admit that i look down on people who have such poor self esteem that they need to get a piece of jewelry"

oh don't be talkin shit about jewelry

I lovers my jewelry all night long, like you probably love your computers.


And there is a big difference between a swiss watch and a timex. It all depends on if you care or not. Some people love the mechanics, history, and the history of the mechanics of watches which makes them appreciate the more expensive and complicated watches.

11/8/2010 1:06:56 PM

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" haha, i stopped there...your argument is "rolex is better than other watches half the price because i said so! and other people say so! that's all that matters!""

No. You stopped there because I presented you with valid points for which you have no rebuttal. Address my post in its entirety.

Quote :

"let me know when you feel like numerating the differences between an $8k rolex and a $4k any-other-respected-name-brand that make it so vastly superior...until then, you're just a schmuck who craves the attention only a ridiculously overpriced piece of jewelry can provide and your opinion means less than mine (because at least i have the "the other options are all cheaper" argument)"

Go read it yourself, you thick-headed knob. Rolex movement carries heritage and reliability of movement. An absolute best resale value also dictates Rolex's price premium. You can sell a run-of-the-mill Rolex sub for 75% of its value 5-10 years after the purchase. Almost all their line of watches can be ordered with solid gold bracelet. Not sure if your pea brain has heard, but gold went up in last couple of years. They sell every single watch they make for a damn good reason and they make close to 1 million of them every year.

If you knew anything about Rolex you would know that almost all their watches have very classic look, which an average person wouldn't distinguish from an average Seiko or Citizen. They are anything but attention craving.

You are clueless. I'm done with your nonsense. Go troll elsewhere.

11/8/2010 1:29:27 PM

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"No. You stopped there because I presented you with valid points for which you have no rebuttal."

i thought you admitted to refusing to provide me with points...oh yes, this: "not here to educate you"

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"Rolex movement carries heritage and reliability of movement."

of course! as long as you do your 3-5 year maintenance at $800/pop

i'll stick with my sub-$8k watches that don't need maintenance, if that's okay with you...maybe i'll pick up a knockoff rolex for $50 so i can win the admiration of strangers, though, eh?

but hey, man, you do what makes you feel special...i like having decent photography equipment and you like having things that make you feel pretty...what do you care that i think you're sad little man with an inferiority complex for arguing that an $8k watch is far superior to all others that are half the price (without anything but opinion to back it up, mind you)?

11/8/2010 2:34:58 PM

Quote :

"GET IT?"

I get it.

You're willing to spend tons of money to impress people that you don't like.

11/8/2010 3:25:53 PM

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"i like having decent photography"

How funny. I happened to be photography aficionado. Maybe we should talk how canon L lenses are on the same level as tamron lenses. I mean, picture quality taken with average $150 P&S is 99% the quality of L lenses. Those journalist photographers must be all stupid to pay all that money.

It is comical how obtuse you are.

11/8/2010 3:44:45 PM

what's comical is that you still don't understand how to make a correct analogy

also...i thought you were done with me? thought you were done with my "trolling"...in fact, i'm fairly certain you said:

Quote :

"I'm done with your nonsense."

but of course you're back for more...which just goes to prove my point: you need approval...no wonder you need a rolex so badly

11/8/2010 4:50:41 PM

What if someone gives me a Rolex?

I drive a civic. I spent $4,500 on it and probably put about $1,500 into it over the past few years in maintenance. 250k miles. Gets almost 40mpg on the highway.

Everything is relative though. To someone with money the price of a Rolex is nothing.

The point is moot when money isn't an issue. $8,000 or even $80,000 for a watch is pennies for some people. Why wouldn't they get a Rolex if money wasn't an issue?

Yes it's stupid if $8,000 is a lot to you.

So still set on a Victorinox.

11/8/2010 4:59:45 PM

^^Nah, I changed my mind. I'm going to see how far you can go without addressing any of my posts. Again, you are avoiding the debate for the 2nd time (photography this time), which tells me you are just blowing smoke and are arguing just for sake of arguing.

^You are correct. That is why I said earlier that you buy it if you can afford it. To me $8k to spend on a watch is very expensive at this point, but that is not to say that Rolex is not worth that much. If you are making $50k a year, drive a civic have kids at home, it probably isn't the wisest idea to buy a $6k sub or $8k deepsea.

It is worth however much people are willing to pay for it. They sell every single watch they manufacture. The fact it retains so much of its value, not to mention that at any point on ebay there are hundreds of 50+ year old mechanical Rolex' that are fully functional speaks for itself.

[Edited on November 8, 2010 at 5:13 PM. Reason : f]

11/8/2010 5:11:40 PM

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"Nah, I changed my mind."

if that's what you need to call your desperate desire for approval and the respect of strangers, far be it for me to deny the contribution to your neurosis

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"you are avoiding the debate for the 2nd time (photography this time)"

no, i'm just not sure pointing out that your analogy fails (again) due to your inability to grasp the concepts inherent to the discussion will result in anything but you coming back for a third time to present us all with another irrelevant comparison

look, you don't have keep trying to convince me...no amount of failed analogies will change my mind regarding how pathetic a person must be to feel the overwhelming need to impress strangers with their ability to spend ridiculous amounts of money on status symbols...if you NEED to keep trying as much as you NEED your pretty things, then feel free to keep it up as long as your fingers remain uncramped

i, for one, have said my piece...i advocate spending a realistic amount of money on a watch that will last years with nothing but a battery replacement (or not even that, depending on what you get) and look good doing it...you advocate spending as much money as possible on something that you have admitted is clasically boring and requires regular maintenance on the hopes that someone will think you're worth knowing due to your predisposition for being a sucker

to each their own

[Edited on November 8, 2010 at 5:24 PM. Reason : .]

11/8/2010 5:21:05 PM

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"no, i'm just not sure pointing out that your analogy fails (again) due to your inability to grasp the concepts inherent to the discussion will result in anything but you coming back for a third time to present us all with another irrelevant comparison"

Wow, you managed to type up three lines that say absolutely nothing.

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"..no amount of failed analogies will change my mind regarding how pathetic a person must be to feel the overwhelming need to impress strangers"

You are repeating yourself. You already mentioned impressing strangers about 12x in last 3 posts.

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".i advocate spending a realistic amount of money on a watch that will last years with nothing but a battery replacement "

What exactly is not going into that THICK skull of yours? What you advocate nobody gives a shit. That's your opinion. Not to mention that realistic amount of money is so wildly relative. Somebody who makes 3 million a year a difference of $800 watch and $8k watch means nothing.

I told you about camera lenses since you brought up that you like spending money on photography equipment. You chickened out of a debate because you got no arguments. Lenses for example are very similar to watches in many ways. Just like watches, premium lenses carry a big price tag even though picture quality is marginally better. To an average person who only cares about basic photography spending $2k on canon L lens is stupid. To someone who appreciates it, it is not. They care, for example about extra bukeh from a good lens. To an amateur it may look the same. Just like that quality, fit and finish, movement reliability, timeless design matters to someone who likes timepieces.

[Edited on November 8, 2010 at 6:22 PM. Reason : f]

11/8/2010 6:22:31 PM

^the problem is a rolex is usually not better than a cheaper watch, at least in terms of absolute function.

Most quartz watches are going to keep better time, and there are quartz with sapphire crystals way below 8k, that will go just as deep, until you get into the specialized dive watches.

You have some of the really high end quartz watches for 2k or so that will loose 10 seconds a year.

the bmw analogy is poor, because your assuming that the 50k bmw is faster than the 10k civic, this would only hold if your 10k civic had 911 performance.

The only way to look at a really expensive watch is as a status piece, or if you like watches a work of mechanical art.

Also lets face, there are very few in house movements now of days, sure they may rebuild them and they might be cosc certified. But were still talking seconds per day.

If you look at them as an investment...they are okay, but were not talking inflation beating here. The rare metal watches are nice, but who has 15-20k


[Edited on November 9, 2010 at 7:10 AM. Reason : They are still beautiful]

11/9/2010 7:06:06 AM

duplicate


[Edited on November 9, 2010 at 7:09 AM. Reason : duplicate ]

11/9/2010 7:06:06 AM

11/9/2010 9:28:11 AM

Most women I know have a ton of jewelry.
Most men I know don't.
I don't see a problem with having a nice watch or three.
Just admit it's man jewelry with no other real purpose and carry on with your life.

11/9/2010 9:56:29 AM

I don't know what your watches do.... but mine keeps track of the time

11/9/2010 10:21:31 AM

I would wear a watch if it wasn't for the fact that I'm living in the 21st century.

11/9/2010 1:10:33 PM

there is a saying:

a watch shows how much a person's time is worth.

11/9/2010 1:40:59 PM

[Edited on November 9, 2010 at 1:53 PM. Reason : ..]

11/9/2010 1:52:49 PM

i am sure i will get flamed for this but here goes...

my dad has always been into watches. when i graduated high school in 98 he gave me a rolex gmt. i still have it and wear it every day. it was made in 1972 and had never had a single problem. in the mean time i bought a rolex explorer II and i wear it as a dress watch. neither watch has ever given me an issue. i bought my wife a ladies date just with m.o.p. face and diamonds off ebay of all places. it was made in 91 and had never had an issue. my mom, dad, and sister have all had rolex's and never had any problems. i used to wear mine at lacrosse practice so it got beat around a lot more than most people beat up their watches. i would be the first to tell someone to invest in a good watch because they will last forever. end rant. flame away about the usual rich kid, spoiled kid, stupid parents yada yada.

11/9/2010 8:20:47 PM

i guess it's the basic argument with anything. i could literally buy 2 fossil watches a yr for 16 yrs and still not have 8 k$ in watches and they would all say the same time as the rolex

11/9/2010 11:05:04 PM

You could, but that would be stupid as shit.

11/9/2010 11:10:01 PM

I don't think so.

Women get horny when they see a guy wearing 16 Fossil watches on each arm.

11/9/2010 11:18:50 PM

I could eat at McDonald's 10 times a day for what it costs me to dine at quality establishments.

11/9/2010 11:28:20 PM

jeez some people just don't like nice things.

11/10/2010 9:30:33 AM

I think it has more to do with the bullshit that the watch snobs are spewing here

Like Skack said

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"Just admit it's man jewelry with no other real purpose and carry on with your life."

If they'd just admit it, i don't think anyone would hate on it.

but then they gotta go and try to justify it and make ridiculous analogies.

11/10/2010 9:54:09 AM

^You can call it jewelry or simply appreciate it as a nice luxury item that is extremely well build.

I think it is pretty obvious nobody buys a Rolex to be able to tell time. You will get more accurate time from $10 prepaid cell phone. Quartz watches have circuitry that will eventually die out. If you are a cheap skate or simply don't appreciate timepieces you will think owning a Rolex is stupid.

[Edited on November 10, 2010 at 1:49 PM. Reason : f]

11/10/2010 1:48:47 PM