Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My roommates and some bunny guy started dancing in the street when the police said go home." |
10/31/2010 8:23:47 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50084 Posts user info edit post |
Haha, I just read the entire first post. It's actually pretty hilarious. The visual I get from this is making me lol:
Quote : | "rolling into a peaceful college crowd on horseback shooting tear gas" |
It's like Red Dead Redemption.10/31/2010 8:25:25 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
^ Haha, you should have been there. It was seriously like being in a movie 10/31/2010 8:26:36 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
A movie about disobeying police orders and then totally leaving that part out of your cunty thread?
[Edited on October 31, 2010 at 8:29 PM. Reason : LIE STILL HEH HEH HEH] 10/31/2010 8:28:30 PM |
ScubaSteve All American 5523 Posts user info edit post |
Glad the RPD aren't that trigger happy with the tear gas... or there would have been several occasions we would have gotten the gas... 10/31/2010 8:28:50 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "under normal circumstances requires either a signed statement of emergency, or an issued order passed through a judge? " |
What law school did you attend?10/31/2010 8:29:58 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A movie about disobeying police orders and then totally leaving that part out of your cunty thread?" |
I was never given any orders. The bar closed, I was told to go outside and I did. Outside is this massive crowd of dancing halloween people. I walk over to the crowd and started taking pics and video and then I got gassed. When A cop did come up to me, he told me to leave, then his horse stepped on me so I fucking left. Not really sure how I lied about anything?10/31/2010 8:35:24 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "There was never a warning, sirens, cop on a megaphone, nothing." |
Quote : | "My roommates and some bunny guy started dancing in the street when the police said go home." |
And a couple hundred people dancing in an open street at 2am is hardly a peaceful situation
I know I sound like a crotchety douche, but I doubt the situation was anything like you described it]10/31/2010 8:38:01 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
^ That post about the room mates was not by me. It's from some other guys video on youtube. I never saw or heard the police say to leave.
And actually it was like I claim and there are numerous pics and videos to document it. It was no different than the halloween deal in Chapel Hill. Just a bunch of people dancing and being stupid in the street. I understand its illegal to dance in a street and block traffic, but is shooting teargas into a crowd of unarmed/ non-violent people proper protocol in this case? I don't think it is. I'm not saying cops are bad people, I'm glad for their service and realize they play an important role in our society. BUT, in my opinion they handled this case the wrong way. Wilmington has a terrible track record of overzealous cops who abuse their status. This event will just further that reputation.
[Edited on October 31, 2010 at 8:45 PM. Reason : .] 10/31/2010 8:43:27 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
it was just tear gas. it's not like they sprayed the crowd with bullets or anything. 10/31/2010 8:46:15 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I mean
It's completely different from Chapel Hill
One is a town-sponsored function with closed streets
One is a bunch of dumb fucks running into traffic after being told to go home by the police
And only at one of those are you gonna find a guy running towards the shit and then complaining when he gets tear gas in his vag 10/31/2010 8:46:56 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
I wish I was a policeman that was drunk on power. 10/31/2010 8:47:26 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
Whatever dude, if you were there and got tear gassed for standing on the side of the street taking video you would feel differently. I'm not gonna argue about it. 10/31/2010 8:48:49 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I like this part
Quote : | "Na, as you can see from my pics I was standing right beside a cop car. They never said shit to any of us. " |
Was there a cop near the cop car or did you expect the car to come to life and talk some fucking sense into you10/31/2010 8:58:56 PM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
LOL@TWW trolls. Tarpon, they're trolling you. 10/31/2010 9:00:36 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Was there a cop near the cop car" |
Yea, there was a cop in the car. Not too far away (~200ft) were two mounted officers on horseback.
quote]LOL@TWW trolls. Tarpon, they're trolling you.[/quote] Yea, I know. That's why I said I'm done arguing with them.10/31/2010 9:06:41 PM |
roddy All American 25832 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "yes, they should have at least made a warning first... you can't start shooting a crowd with anything until at least one of 2 conditions is met: they are being violent, or you have warned them to disperse." |
but opie, in your homeland, dont that shoot to kill first and later ask questions (if they feel like it)?10/31/2010 9:07:24 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Hey, this guy disagrees with me and has raised some points that make my thread kind of shitty
I'll call him a troll and be done with it 10/31/2010 9:11:12 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
^ OK, I'll play
Quote : | "t's completely different from Chapel Hill
One is a town-sponsored function with closed streets
One is a bunch of dumb fucks running into traffic after being told to go home by the police
And only at one of those are you gonna find a guy running towards the shit and then complaining when he gets tear gas in his vag" |
1. I said the crowd was the same as chapel hill. Where as it's a mass of young people dancing and walking through the street. The crowd is generally good hearted people just looking for a good time and not out to cause harm. Occasionally there may be an isolated problem, but it can be dealt with on an individual basis. This was not town-sponsored, unlike chapel hill. I agree with you.
2. No one was running into traffic. Front street is shut down at 2am every weekend b/c of the mass influx of drunk people from the bars. Therefore there was no traffic to be blocked.
3. I didn't run toward the crowd. I stepped out of the bar when it closed and the crowd was all around me. All the bars in Wilm are pretty centralized so you automatically get a huge mass of people after closing time.
4. Maybe the cops told some people to go home. It appears they did after hearing at least one others account. So they tell like 5 kids out of several hundred to leave and then gas the whole crowd anyways?
Again, my beef is not the cops, or the fact that they had to break up the crowd. It's the fact that they just gassed several thousand people in a city block because some of them were dancing in the street.
[Edited on October 31, 2010 at 9:23 PM. Reason : .]10/31/2010 9:21:59 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I walk over to the crowd and started taking pics and video " |
Quote : | " I didn't run toward the crowd. I stepped out of the bar when it closed and the crowd was all around me." |
[Edited on October 31, 2010 at 9:26 PM. Reason : Didn't realize the street was closed. That's a bit different.]10/31/2010 9:25:54 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41752 Posts user info edit post |
"i pay your salary" 10/31/2010 9:36:51 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
By walked over, I mean, out of the bar entrance across the sidewalk area and to the street. Maybe 30-40ft from the building. 10/31/2010 9:36:57 PM |
Mindstorm All American 15858 Posts user info edit post |
As I was rioting in the street, as quiet as could be. A great big mounted cop came up, and walked his horse on me. 10/31/2010 9:46:08 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
^Hahaha awesome! 10/31/2010 9:53:42 PM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
i was there and the police had every right to start shooting the gas. these kids were out of control. there was even some faggot that tried to mount a police horse and got his foot stepped on 10/31/2010 10:03:55 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "There we were chanting our countries name, expressing our right to assemble and right to free speech and we get blasted with tear gas." |
So it's safe to assume that you obtained all necessary permits for your assembly?10/31/2010 10:06:14 PM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
no but we tried to get the necessary permits from the bar tender. 10/31/2010 10:10:14 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
^ Well the street was closed off and everyone was in a public area. Do you needs permits to dance? 10/31/2010 10:11:10 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOIH_mcMPy0
Another video was put up on youtube. This gives the best view of what really happened, even during the actual gassing. I hear that the local news has many accounts of this by now and will be running stories. Should be interesting to see what pans out. 10/31/2010 10:32:46 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
You need permits to form a mob, genius. 10/31/2010 10:38:22 PM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
lol. you people need to start listening. i would be upset if they started shooting people with bullets... not so much tear gas.
i left when they told me to and therefore did not get gassed. 10/31/2010 10:39:32 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
^ I'm sure they did tell some people to leave. I'm interested to know if they came and told you in person or were they on a megaphone os something? The cops around me never said anything. Everybody was just dancing around or standing and watching and the next thing we were all choking and burning. No warning no nothing, just gas grenades fired at us. Like I said, when a cop finally came up and told me to beat it, I was fucking out of there in a hurry. I don't want trouble.
I'm glad it wasn't bullets too, but I don't like any type of projectile to be fired at me by cops without warning or reason. As far as I know of, no one was hurt. But they could have been due to the mass panic and confusion caused by the police. 10/31/2010 10:53:45 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
People could have been hurt by the unruly drunken mob as well. 10/31/2010 10:55:38 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
^ I agree. Mobs in general are not a good thing. It's amazing what happens when people get that "pack mentality". The cops should have broken up the mob, it was illegal, I'm not arguing that point.
My problem is the way in which they handled the situation. The police already had the road closed and barricaded in preparation of a mass of drunk people leaving the bar on halloween night. They knew what they'd be dealing with. You think they would have had officers lined along the street (like chapel hill) or at least some cop cars in the streets with megaphones telling people to go home. Instead they allowed a problem to form and instead of dealing with it civilly they launch tear gas down the streets of Wilmington 10/31/2010 11:13:38 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
DON'T TASE ME BRO. 10/31/2010 11:17:45 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
DON'T GAS ME BRO. 10/31/2010 11:21:19 PM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
Why did everyone have to leave at 2 AM? Seems to me had they just allowed bars to close at 5 AM or whatever time they feel like closing, people would slowly trickle home instead of having this mass congregation of people on the streets as all the bars close. 10/31/2010 11:24:23 PM |
Talage All American 5091 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You think they would have had officers lined along the street" |
Yeah, if I was a citizen of Wilmington I think I'd rather they not waste my tax money to baby sit a bunch of drunks.10/31/2010 11:28:59 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
North Carolina law says 2am. In an old historic town like Wilmington and a little 2 lane brick street ,such as Front St, the area simply became overwhelmed with people.
Quote : | "Yeah, if I was a citizen of Wilmington I think I'd rather they not waste my tax money to baby sit a bunch of drunks" |
There was already plenty of cops present. They just like to stand in groups on the corners or in alleys. It's like this every weekend. Had they been dispersed among the area, they could have begun to round up people and move them along or begun handcuffing the non-compliants. Instead the police stood in a large group at the other end of the road and somehow expected the entire crowd to hear their demands.
Also, if you were a citizen of New Hanover County you would realize that a vast majority of the income in this area comes from drunk tourists and students.
[Edited on October 31, 2010 at 11:32 PM. Reason : .]
[Edited on October 31, 2010 at 11:33 PM. Reason : .]10/31/2010 11:29:14 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
NO MORE DEAD COPS 10/31/2010 11:50:38 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A guy in a bunny suit began dancing with a dude in a giant sombrero. Others soon gathered and in a matter of 2 minutes it turned into a huge dancing mob scene. Sounds pretty dangerous huh?" |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdvITn5cAVc
New video just released that shows a lot more detail.
[Edited on October 31, 2010 at 11:58 PM. Reason : l]10/31/2010 11:54:44 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
^Hahahaha, fucking nice! I like the costumes 10/31/2010 11:59:34 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52766 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.aclu.org 11/1/2010 12:05:19 AM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
What the fuck was with the USA chant? 11/1/2010 12:07:18 AM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Haven't you ever been somewhere, having the time of your life, and you realized this type of shit would only happen in the US? That's when you chant USA, USA, USA!!! It's not like a dude in a bunny suit and a dude in a sombrero randomly started dancing in the streets in Pakistan yesterday or something. 11/1/2010 12:11:51 AM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
...from one of the youtube videos
Quote : | "i was soooo PISSED! the cops didn 't need to do that! My fiancée had a BAD aasthma attack from the? gas! We had to run inside the stairwell of level 5. Some strangers helped me calm her down. Thanks ALot! Wilmington PD?" |
11/1/2010 12:19:52 AM |
roddy All American 25832 Posts user info edit post |
Is this you and your friends???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9OO0S5w2k
[Edited on November 1, 2010 at 12:41 AM. Reason : w] 11/1/2010 12:32:33 AM |
Metricula Squishie Enthusiast 4040 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Wilmington cops being overzealous. White-trash downtown Wilmington bar-hoppers being overzealous. Sounds like a perfect storm of typical Wilmington bullshit." |
11/1/2010 12:36:00 AM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
^^No, but I did see those guys there lol. Killer costumes!
[Edited on November 1, 2010 at 12:36 AM. Reason : .] 11/1/2010 12:36:06 AM |
Metricula Squishie Enthusiast 4040 Posts user info edit post |
I just want to say I grew up in ILM and the "vast majority" of the income is not students or tourists except from summer 11/1/2010 12:38:37 AM |