http://www.autoblog.com/2010/12/20/video-over-11-minutes-of-bmw-1-series-m-coupe-and-e30-m3-hotnes/

Video: Over 11 minutes of BMW 1 Series M Coupe and E30 M3 hotness

12/20/2010 9:40:34 PM

I don't know if it has been discussed already or not, but its MSRP has been released: $47,010.

Here is what BMW says about it:

2012 BMW 1 Series M Coupe the "most affordable" M product ever offered

Quote :

"At $47,010 (including destination), the 2012 BMW 1 Series M Coupe isn't exactly cheap. Still, Matthew Russell, BMW product and technology PR rep, says it's "the most affordable M BMW has ever sold, adjusting for inflation, including the original E30 M3." That car cost around $34,000 when it was introduced in 1988. According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Russell is more than right: $34,000 in 1988 had the same buying power as $62,885 in 2010. With rumors of BMW getting into front-wheel-drive cars, we asked Dr. Kay Segler, president of BMW M GmbH, if M could do a FWD car. Segler said, "I haven't thought about that," and went on to remark that he couldn't see doing a sub-1-Series M car. Russell elaborated with, "There are rumors about what is coming, but those aren't from us." As to other rumors about whether the coupes will be limited or capped in number, we were told categorically, "No." But that was amended with, "But they will be hard to get.""

In other news:

Jon Sibal's BMW 1 M Coupe rendering to become real car

Quote :

"Jon Sibal is a very talented artist, and he recently turned his virtual pen on the all-new 2012 BMW 1 Series M Coupe. This rendering is going to be more than just a desktop wallpaper and a dream, however, because a BMW tuning company in Chicago is going to build it. IND Distribution is teaming up with Patrick BMW, Jon Sibal and a handful of other companies to make this 1M and its classic M livery a reality. The car will get the exterior upgrades and paintwork as well as a host of performance modifications to dial up the fun-meter. We can't wait to see the completed project."

http://jonsibal.com/blog/2010/12/special-edition-bmw-1m
http://jonsibal.com/blog/2011/01/ind-distribution-x-jonsibal

For a hi-res version of the pic below and of other amazing renderings he has done:
http://jonsibal.deviantart.com/gallery

1/17/2011 9:48:53 PM

That's is super sexy. My girlfriend disagrees*
*We seldom disagree on car attractiveness barring the C6 z06.

1/17/2011 9:55:06 PM

Which one of you freaks doesn't like the looks of the C6 Z06?

1/17/2011 11:43:26 PM

She does not, women don't like Corvettes, almost regardless of what it looks like. I certainly do like it:

but I assume that has more to do with what it can do not how it's built, I mean, it's kinda vulgar in more ways than one...

1/17/2011 11:59:47 PM

well, yeah, I mean, that's sort of the point, I think.

1/18/2011 12:12:26 AM

Quote :

"women don't like Corvettes"

My woman loves them... especially the C6 Z06....

1/18/2011 2:03:01 AM

Quote :

"At $47,010 (including destination), the 2012 BMW 1 Series M Coupe isn't exactly cheap. Still, Matthew Russell, BMW product and technology PR rep, says it's "the most affordable M BMW has ever sold, adjusting for inflation, including the original E30 M3." That car cost around $34,000 when it was introduced in 1988. According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Russell is more than right: $34,000 in 1988 had the same buying power as $62,885 in 2010."

I wonder if the dealerships are gonna try price gouging. Aren't they only making a 1200 or so of these a year? If that's the case I don't see any of them selling for close to MSRP.

As an aside, the MSRP of the E36 M3 was under $35,000 in 1995. I'm not sure how that works out inflation wise, but it might be a closer comparison than the E30 M3.

1/18/2011 9:50:17 AM

price is outrageous imo. especially considering all the options require you to basically pick up all the other option packages.

also, latest info says that production won't be artificially limited, but rather there is a limited amount that bmw can produce. The designer of the 1M says they will be "hard to get"

i expect dealers to mark them up substantially

either way, the 1-series is extraordinarily ugly, and this is coming from a BMW enthusiast

[Edited on January 18, 2011 at 3:53 PM. Reason : .]

1/18/2011 3:52:30 PM

I think the above BMW is the best looking thing to come from them in a few years. I used to love the e39 M5, but
they're looking dated. Current M5's not bad, e30/36 (sedan only!)/46/90 (sedan only!) M3s were/are good.
I really don't think much else is handsome, save for that 1M. That is one attractive car...

1/18/2011 4:01:15 PM

i just think you have a thing for bug-eyed cars

1/18/2011 4:20:42 PM

^^E46 sedan has nothing on this



[Edited on January 18, 2011 at 4:22 PM. Reason : g]

1/18/2011 4:22:33 PM

I said e46 M3, I like them (despite their lack of the proper # of doors), though the e46 330i zhp is cool too.

Of course BMW was wise to make the pinnacle of their engineering The e36 ///M3 SEDAN!1:

for only two years, as they figured the market couldn't handle the awesome for much longer.
It's OK to dream, one day if you work hard you may have the privilege of touching one of these, maybe.

If not though, and you just can't handle all the awesome that the e36 M3 sedan/manual is (don't worry, not many
can), they also made this:


I consider those two to be near the top of BMW's very best aesthetic designs, though let's be real, there can
only be one ///MEH car at the top.
TRUE M3, the e36.

[Edited on January 18, 2011 at 4:33 PM. Reason : Too much ///Motorsports]

1/18/2011 4:31:42 PM

I agree, the E46 coupe is hotness. This new 1M coupe has almost identical sheetmetal to every other 1 series. So that means its still ugly. Gaping air intakes, quad exhaust tips and flaired fenders don't change that.

1/18/2011 4:33:16 PM

YOU HUSH YOUR MOUTH! That riced out 1 series at the top of this page is hawt!

1/18/2011 4:38:11 PM

I am trying so hard to like 1er, but I just can't. From some angles it looks hot, but from rear or rear 45 angle stubbiness comes out

1/18/2011 5:01:56 PM

This is what Albert Biermann, Head of Development at BMW M GmbH, said not long ago about the price of the then future 1M:

Quote :

""between the 135i Coupe and the M3 Coupe, with a clear tendency towards the 135i.""

Well that turned out to be a lie, as the MSRP is almost exactly half way between those of the 2 cars he mentioned (36K, 47K, 58K).

1/18/2011 5:25:20 PM

I like the 135i, and I like the 1M. I think they're good looking cars.

I really dig the Z4M coupe, too:



(although it would be tough to choose over a Cayman S...)

1/18/2011 7:43:13 PM

That's because the Cayman S is the clear winner...

Also, the 1M looks hot.

1/18/2011 7:53:23 PM

well, the Z4M can be bought for somewhat less money than a Cayman S, and it's still a very good looking and generally very desirable sports car. I'm with you, I'm pretty sure I'd buy the P-car between those two choices, but if you factor in price, it's not quite as 100% clear (plus, I'd have to look into seeing which engine scared me the least in terms of reliability/longevity and cost of repair...the S54 or the M97).

1/18/2011 8:08:26 PM

Quote :

"I'd have to look into seeing which engine scared me the least in terms of reliability/longevity and cost of repair...the S54 or the M97"

Translation:

Quote :

"I'm a pussy."

PS: Porsche has exercised good will to buy entire engines for customers on 7+ year old cars.

1/18/2011 8:38:29 PM

Quote :

"Dr. Segler responded to those worried about the 1 Series M Coupe being better than the M3 with "the M3 is the car of M, the icon, playing in another league. The best feeling is still in an M3." So even though BMW's product and technology PR rep Matthew Russell described the 1 Series M as "an M3 in a 1 Series body," the 1 M is distanced from the M3 by its limited options, including the fact that the M button on the steering wheel only adjusts throttle response, nothing else. On the other hand, when discussing concerns that the 1 M was engineered so as not to step on the M3's toes, Segler said "It was never held back at any stage. It is as good as it can be, this was exactly the car to build." When we asked how much one would have to spend in order to make it better than an M3, we were told that it would make more sense to buy an M3. "It is not a replacement for the M3," he also said. Russell added, "The M3 is in the middle of its life, it has a long way to go." And finally, our favorite answer came when we asked what is the competition for the 1 Series M Coupe, and Russell amusingly remarked, "A certified pre-owned M3." What say you? Is BMW just being cocky or does the auto industry offer a true direct competitor for the 1 Series M Coupe?"

2/4/2011 8:12:49 AM

So the M3 is faster. Why would you buy this again?

I still say it looks hot.

2/4/2011 8:49:06 AM

I'll just leave this here. Please to embed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtenM2hFTgE&feature=player_embedded

I'm not gonna lie. I got a bit choked up at the end there

2/4/2011 8:56:14 AM

HAHAHA....what an awesome VID. I definitely got chills at the end.

2/4/2011 9:30:47 AM

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=485292

Pretty neat video of a guys following a 1M around. It's certainly quick, but whatever is following is quicker...even if the driver doesn't show it.

2/10/2011 1:24:53 PM

seems like the 1M has all the stuff that BMW was too cheap to put on a 335. like an LSD.

2/10/2011 2:11:32 PM

They wouldn't sell M3s if they put a LSD in the 335. I don't blame them.

2/10/2011 2:13:37 PM

No. There are always douchebags willing to buy an M3, and most of them don't even know what an LSD is or why they would ever want one.

2/10/2011 2:31:32 PM

I thought non /// cars did not come with an LSD as a rule?

2/10/2011 3:13:14 PM

all the E30 IS models had lsds

2/10/2011 3:24:27 PM

Quote :

"There are always douchebags willing to buy an M3, and most of them don't even know what an LSD is or why they would ever want one."

2/10/2011 4:08:27 PM

^^ and not just the is, the es too

2/10/2011 4:43:41 PM

This car will be sodomizing M3's with a few bolt ons.

2/10/2011 4:57:53 PM

THIS VID IS AWESOME.


I lol'd.

2/10/2011 5:06:16 PM

Are you blind?

2/10/2011 10:06:12 PM

Quote :

"That is one attractive car..."

2/11/2011 9:39:26 AM

ok, when is the last time a non /// car had an LSD? is there anything newer than the e30?

2/11/2011 11:30:51 AM

E36s could still be had w/LSD even w/out the ///.

2/11/2011 9:54:24 PM

so nothing post 1999 MY?

2/11/2011 10:20:43 PM

Quote :

"E36s could still be had w/LSD even w/out the ///."

in US?

2/12/2011 12:42:56 AM

^7 hahahaha

^6 I think the 1///M is a great looking car. I like the 135i, too.

2/12/2011 1:29:46 AM

Full undercarriage shots. The shock part numbers do not match those on the ///M3 fwiw.

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=487411

Every day that goes buy I want one of these more and more.

2/17/2011 9:57:59 AM

C6 prices for C5 performance. What's not to like?

2/17/2011 1:25:47 PM

the M brand is dying

2/17/2011 7:21:59 PM