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SaabTurbo
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Ball sack sucker.

1/13/2011 4:29:24 PM

JCASHFAN
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You can spend whatever you want on whatever you want. That is the American Dream. But beyond a point with any product you cease paying for quality and start paying for name.





That's why the man loves people like you.

1/13/2011 4:37:27 PM

SaabTurbo
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I pay for quality, don't care what the name is. The name only gains my attention when its quality deserves my attention.

I'm sure the man enjoys your purchases as well though son. Oh wait, you've escaped all that by living in a cardboard box and riding the bus to work in your walmart clothes.

Oh wait, that's still keeping the man happy.



Btw, cheap does not necessarily equal high value. I must admit that if you know nothing about knives it's easy to think that.

[Edited on January 13, 2011 at 4:55 PM. Reason : T]

1/13/2011 4:52:33 PM

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Quote :
"Btw, cheap does not necessarily equal high value"

1/13/2011 5:50:20 PM

SaabTurbo
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This rule applies doubly to hookers.

1/13/2011 5:51:31 PM

SaabTurbo
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I need someone to buy these for me son:

http://www.knifeart.com/jensansofunk2.html

http://www.ebosshoss.com/tradeknives/urbanovsky/dj-urbanovsky-american-kami-shtf-tanto-flipper-right-handed-1507

1/15/2011 10:24:42 AM

wdprice3
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I don't get how one of those costs $900. I'd pay $15.

1/15/2011 10:28:08 AM

tschudi
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SaabTurbo puts out Jared Lee Loughner vibes sometimes

1/15/2011 10:37:41 AM

SaabTurbo
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$15 wont even buy you a good production knife.

The reason it costs $900 is because it is completely handmade using the highest end materials available. Titanium, RWL-34, etc. Hand ground, hand textured, anodized, machine costs, belts, bits, labor, etc. If you don't see that there is skill involved in making that by hand from a couple bars of titanium and steel then I really don't know what to tell you. He uses manual mills, manual drill presses and a belt grinder to produce these. There is no computer work going on here. He does not use a jig to grind these, he does it completely by hand.

Look at the man's hands and tell me he isn't doing this shit by hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5jWW92GJwg&feature=related


Also, he built one of the nastiest knives I've ever seen, period.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVfUgAHbhHA


Jens at work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy5Zku1iZik




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"I don't get how one of those costs $217,310. I'd pay $3621.83 though."


Well then I guess you'll be driving a 1995 Honda Civic son.


^ That's just rude, I honestly hope you get to meet someone like him. You act like I'm the only person in the world who enjoys collecting knives. If that were true these people would be out of business. I'd also like to point out that people don't use $900 knives to commit robberies and murders.

[Edited on January 15, 2011 at 10:51 AM. Reason : T]

1/15/2011 10:41:44 AM

pttyndal
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you can't drive it or pick up bitches with a knife. You're overcompensating for something with a $200k car or $900 knife though.

1/15/2011 10:49:51 AM

SaabTurbo
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If you buy a car simply to obtain women then you're overcompensating for something, yes. That plan will also fail miserably, as numerous writers have pointed out. Cars don't get you women, generally speaking (At least not the kind of woman you'd actually want). The fact that you even have such a mentality is why you don't understand that people can actually get enjoyment for themselves out of things. It's interesting to see that you feel that anyone who places value on things you don't place value on is automatically "overcompensating". I'll show you my cock if you're that interested, son. Got no problems there.

Again, you're a hypocrite. You buy things that cost more than that and aren't truly necessary. I'm not sure why we go around on this issue over and over. You'd think eventually you'd grasp that I value these objects and understand the work that was put into them. I appreciate them as functional art.

You can't drive a painting and it doesn't pick up women either. What does that have to do with anything? Also note that I actually CAN and DO use custom knives.

[Edited on January 15, 2011 at 11:03 AM. Reason : T]

1/15/2011 10:53:22 AM

SaabTurbo
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Here's the thing. I guarantee that all of you have bought things that were overly expensive and unnecessary. For example, I don't value expensive cell phones, I only buy the most basic shit. Does that mean I go around telling everyone who bought expensive ass iphones and blackberries that they're stupid and overcompensating? Absolutely not. If you get use and enjoyment out of it, then who am I to tell you that you're "overcompensating" or stupid for making the purchase?

The fact of the matter is that you are a hypocrite if you claim that something someone else places value on is stupid and pointless, because there are things you place value on that other people don't. I get both use and enjoyment out of custom knives, period. If you need to see my cock, let me know dude.

[Edited on January 15, 2011 at 11:00 AM. Reason : T]

1/15/2011 10:59:55 AM

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i think we're telling you that your threads are stupid and nobody cares about knives as much as you, yet you make new threads all the time, and they're almost exclusively about knives. if that's how you spend your time and money, fine, but nobody else gives a shit

1/15/2011 11:07:38 AM

wdprice3
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Interesting. I've got a $5 cheap knife that's been going strong for 10 years.

1/15/2011 11:09:02 AM

SaabTurbo
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"i think we're telling you that your threads are stupid and nobody cares about knives as much as you, yet you make new threads all the time, and they're almost exclusively about knives. if that's how you spend your time and money, fine, but nobody else gives a shit"


Perhaps I keep making them because people like you get bent out of shape about it and it's fucking hilarious. Have you ever considered that son?


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"Interesting. I've got a $5 cheap knife that's been going strong for 10 years."


"Going strong" is a relative term. I've never seen a $5 knife that could "go strong" out of the box, let alone for 10 years. It's probably dull as a brick, has steel that can't hold an edge worth shit, etc. Will it force its way through material? Sure. Is it a good knife? Fuck no.

Good knives are ergonomic, lightweight, extremely strong, have good edge holding, are reasonably easy to re-sharpen, etc.

Again, "I have a Geo Metro that's been going strong for 10 years." So what? That doesn't make it anything other than a Geo Metro.

[Edited on January 15, 2011 at 11:14 AM. Reason : T]

1/15/2011 11:11:15 AM

BJCaudill21
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i'm not bent out of shape, create all the shitty threads you want, get your 4 replies. i was just trying to help clarify why people were responding the way they were.

1/15/2011 11:14:17 AM

SaabTurbo
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Wow, you are really, REALLY retarded son.

1/15/2011 11:15:05 AM

pttyndal
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lol. whatever floats your boat son.

1/15/2011 11:15:30 AM

SaabTurbo
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I don't own a boat. They're a waste of money.

1/15/2011 11:16:14 AM

pttyndal
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who's being the hypocrite now son?

1/15/2011 11:18:43 AM

SaabTurbo
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The statement was meant to be sarcastic.....

1/15/2011 11:19:50 AM

LRlilDaddy
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i mean, those knives are hot. i just dont get it though. you knife and gun people are crazy. dats a buncha money bucks

1/15/2011 11:31:33 AM

SaabTurbo
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The reason I don't collect firearms is that custom firearms are quite limited (Producing firearms involves a lot of red tape, obviously). I own firearms for non-collection purposes. Thus I don't have many and each one fills a very specific role.

Custom knives, on the other hand, don't have the red tape and there are many really good makers. I own various knives that could all perform the same tasks reasonably well. Some are certainly in a class of their own in certain roles, but many of them do cover the same basic usage. I like to switch it up from day to day though. But I do want to point out that one knife will not do everything and anyone who thinks it will has not ever used a knife properly. Can an experienced knife user get by with one blade provided it's reasonable? Sure. But is that blade truly suited to all tasks? Absolutely not.

Knives which excel at and are specifically designed for food prep are generally not very good for bushcraft. Knives which are specifically designed for processing an animal generally don't excel at other tasks. Knives which are designed for prying and cutting hard objects aren't very good for detailed cutting and EDC type work (Opening boxes and envelopes, cutting paper, being lightweight and unobtrusive, etc).

I do find that a good bushcraft knife will do most tasks well though. A convex ground fixed blade knife with a convex edge, a blade length of 3 or 4 inches, properly designed handle with rough canvas micarta scales can get by for just about every task you can think of, provided it is properly designed and manufactured well. It wont be the best knife in the world for all tasks, but it will get by reasonably well at all of them. Kyley Harris' cKc 1.0 and 2.2 are examples of this. Those two knives will process wood (Batoning and cutting), skin a deer, chop vegetables, cut paper and cardboard boxes, pry things open, are lightweight, are easy to resharpen, hold an edge well, give excellent grip even when wet, wont allow your hand to slip up onto the blade, are reasonably compact and lightweight, can be used for self defense, etc. The biggest reason they're good is that they offer all of this while being priced very reasonably. They're extremely high value. The prices are in the production knife price range and I have yet to find anyone who makes knives that outperform his. They may look better, but they don't exceed his knives' performance. In fact, most production and custom pieces can't match his knives when it comes it all out performance.

This is why I have a number of cKc pieces being built.

[Edited on January 15, 2011 at 11:59 AM. Reason : T]

1/15/2011 11:48:14 AM

SaabTurbo
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"Guys since I posted this 30 minutes ago I have had 45 requests for more details...I have put the most requested ones On Hold.

I am getting on a plane and I will begin contacting in order received each request. And even if sold, I will follow up on every inquiry.

Thanks a ton!"


http://www.ebosshoss.com/tradeknives/incoming-vegas-1516


There's no market for these apparently. Every one of those knives is well over $1000. Many are probably over $2000.

1/16/2011 6:24:13 PM

AndyMac
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"That is correct. It's also interesting that it's called an obsession. You can post daily about a game you play, it's not an obsession. I can post a couple times a week about knives and it's an obsession all of a sudden. Basically there's a bunch of hypocrisy going on here. I enjoy it though, it demonstrates how totally lacking most of you are in terms of self awareness."


If someone opened a new thread every single time they wanted to say something about this game, I'd say it was an obsession, and an annoying one at that.

1/16/2011 6:36:33 PM

SaabTurbo
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"You do realize I mostly post these threads because fools like you go crazy, right? There was a time where I posted a thread or two to seriously introduce people to custom knives. Many people have PMed me about them actually. Anyway, I enjoy knives, but there are plenty of other websites where I can seriously discuss them. Chit Chat is a place for me to mess around and act like an idiot. If you honestly believe that I don't grasp that the vast majority of people don't like these threads then you're a damned fool."

1/16/2011 6:37:28 PM

tchenku
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1. what's the point of the hole in some of the blades? for defense or general usage? it just looks like something to break your fingers in

2. i thought switch-blades were illegal. are these not switch-blades (in the videos)?

1/16/2011 7:20:54 PM

SaabTurbo
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The hole is a thumb opening hole, it allows you to open the knife... It's way too small to put your finger through. Most are 13mm or less. You have to keep in mind, knives are tools first, weapons last. 99.9% of knife usage is NON-DEFENSE. Even "tactical knives" in combat environments almost never get used to kill/hurt someone. It's interesting that knives are automatically assumed to be entirely weapons, despite the fact that most of us use them DAILY, if for nothing other than food prep. Lots of police carry and use knives regularly, but it's quite rare that they use them in self defense. Knives are tools first, weapons last. Even autos, just think about it, what if you do something that requires you to quickly open a knife one handed in an emergency? Like a river guide or a horseman. You may need to cut yourself free from something quickly and it may be impractical to carry a fixed blade. Autos have legitimate uses that don't involve killing. The "scariest" autos (Out the front autos) are often LESS capable at killing because they're a lot weaker than frame locks and the like.

Humans have a very strong aversion to intimate combat at those ranges. Bayonet attacks historically end before the stabbing starts. Usually one side turns and runs, but if they do come together then the soldiers almost always turn their rifles around and use the stocks to hit one another rather than stab. There's a book which covers this called "On Killing", if anyone wants it I can show you where to obtain a digital copy.

Laws vary by state concerning automatic knives. They are legal to own in NC, but they can't be carried concealed. Some states allow them to be carried. Other states allow them to be carried with a concealed weapons permit. In NC, the permit only applies to handguns though. I have owned automatic knives, I don't like most of them though. Those Jens Anso autos are the exception.

Note: There are plenty of manual action knives which are just as fast as autos. I like dual action autos though, because you have the option of opening them manually. Even though it shouldn't matter, a lot of people freak out when a knife opens quickly. Yet the same knife opening slowly or with two hands is less scary. Go figure. A "waved" manual action knife is faster than any auto.

Waved MANUAL ACTION knife (ie - completely legal to carry anywhere in US besides NY bascially, so long as blade length is within limits):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK6lOTz1Ebs



[Edited on January 16, 2011 at 7:50 PM. Reason : t]

1/16/2011 7:24:26 PM

SaabTurbo
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The man should have posted it in here son. There is a new owner of a Benchmade AFO on these forums son.

1/17/2011 7:14:23 AM

SaabTurbo
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This knife was sold in about 3 minutes and clearly had over 3 people trying to buy it within that time. There's no market for these, I'm the only one that likes them son.

[Edited on January 22, 2011 at 9:18 PM. Reason : t]

1/22/2011 9:18:06 PM

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