Smoke two joints in the morning

1/24/2011 10:19:39 PM

^^I mean, yeah, he's a criminal, and the grower is a criminal. There's no doubt that what they did was illegal. The laws should be repealed. You're not getting trolled, but you do need to honestly ask yourself why you think marijuana should be illegal to grow and sell.

[Edited on January 24, 2011 at 10:21 PM. Reason : ]

1/24/2011 10:21:13 PM

hey look it's eleusis talking about shit he knows nothing about!

eleusis, I invite you to shut the fuck up

1/24/2011 10:22:38 PM

Support local agriculture!!!

1/24/2011 10:22:51 PM

I've grown and smoked the weed legally. Never sold a gram.

1/24/2011 10:22:52 PM

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"the house on Chamberlin Street"

i am so very surprised

1/24/2011 10:24:10 PM

this guy really started yapping as soon as they cuffed him

1/24/2011 10:43:20 PM

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"the house on Chamberlin Street"

I see the things havent change much since my college times

1/24/2011 10:45:00 PM

two words in this situation, lawyer + now

1/24/2011 10:46:19 PM

^^^Yeah, they must have pulled the old "if you tell us everything we'll make sure they don't pound you too hard in the pin."

1/24/2011 10:48:04 PM

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"PAT DABNEY BUSTED"

1/24/2011 10:48:58 PM

oh look, it's billytalent posting under another alias because all his other aliases got run off.

1/24/2011 10:54:22 PM

wow, the students they interviewed in the news report seemed like some real go getters

1/24/2011 10:59:51 PM

I wonder how much the restaurants near NCSU gross

1/24/2011 11:08:30 PM

http://www.priceofweed.com/


Cheap out west

1/24/2011 11:18:18 PM

oh look, it's eleusis talking about two things he doesn't know shit about in the same thread!!!

1/24/2011 11:34:09 PM

It shows you can have weed all around and society does not go in to breakdown.

1/24/2011 11:35:34 PM

haha I used to live on Chamberlin

1/24/2011 11:44:36 PM

I used to party on Chamberlain

[Edited on January 24, 2011 at 11:47 PM. Reason : and I know how to spell it]

1/24/2011 11:46:54 PM

cool story discmanfades

1/24/2011 11:54:54 PM

this dude is going to jail

he will get fucked in the ass

he will prolly get HIV

1/25/2011 12:10:12 AM

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"He was just a wholesaler, and honestly his profit margin on a 26lb haul would probably be in the 25-30K range. Cant trust (pay) anyone to do the driving for you cross country with that much grass AND still be able to bail yourself out."

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"The warrant states that Bass - a former NC State junior - told Oklahoma troopers that he wired $70,000 to Humboldt, California and then flew to the west coast with an accomplice to pick up the pot shipment."

$70k for 26 lbs. is roughly $2700/lb. Some of the highest quality "medical grade" marijuana in the US comes from Humboldt County and he'd have no trouble finding people who are willing to pay a premium for it. http://www.priceofweed.com/ says high quality weed is $400+ an ounce in this region. I think we can reasonably assume a dealer of this size was going to farm out quarter pound (4 oz) to one pound at a time at a discounted rate. At $350ish per quarter pound he'd be looking at $5600 a lb for a profit of $75,400. I'm sure the guy who can afford a pound at a time wouldn't be paying that price and he's going to see some losses from people who take it on the front and never pay up, but there's a lot more than $25k-$30k in profit there.

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"hey look it's eleusis talking about shit he knows nothing about! eleusis, I invite you to shut the fuck up"

Ummm...What are you talking about? eleusis made a good point. I'm sure the guy would have bought it locally if he knew where to get it, but I don't think NC is lacking in production either.

[Edited on January 25, 2011 at 12:15 AM. Reason : s]

1/25/2011 12:10:28 AM

BlackDog is gonna be pissed!!!

1/25/2011 12:14:02 AM

All the interviewed students were thinking, "Damn, that's a lot of money. What am I doing with this college bullshit..."

1/25/2011 12:31:48 AM

Maybe he was paying his way through college like all those strippers.

lol, j/k.

1/25/2011 12:35:15 AM

This is interesting. Somebody has noted that if he was really big time, he wouldn't have been transporting the stuff himself...

...but I dunno. Like, is he supposed to pay/convince somebody else to do it for him? And if they screw him over or mess it up, is he supposed to have them murdered to send a message to his other henchmen? Are there like marijuana junkies who would do his bidding?

If he really did make a quarter of a million dollars in a year on marijuana (He didn't sell other stuff? Really?), he was probably very hardworking and efficient in some ways...but also in way over his head in another way...COME ON, MADE FOR TV MOVIE!

1/25/2011 1:54:19 AM

drugs dont really work that way when it comes to payment.

he probably didnt put any of his money upfront...he may get it and then sell it to someone else who gets more of a profit from it on the larger scale. the top of the food chain.

the people that are at the top dont have any part of the dealing and transport though, they just manage the places, people and ways of the money.


I've done a study on this awhile back so thats why i get a little bit of the system but have NO vlue how it really works for each group.

its alot like a ponzi scheme i guess, hard to explain.

still think its dumb to drive cross country with it.

[Edited on January 25, 2011 at 2:17 AM. Reason : g]

1/25/2011 2:10:46 AM

^I feel you--for the most part. But according to the article, he wired 70 grand to California and then flew there to pick up the drugs. So if he didn't put any of his money upfront, then he musta gotten money advanced from people (people who were willing to pay in advance because it was a super good deal).

Are you saying he was a transporter, and there is somebody else who was actually making the 70 thousand dollar purchase? That does make sense.

[Edited on January 25, 2011 at 3:01 AM. Reason : Not as exciting for NCSU though!]

1/25/2011 2:32:41 AM

victim? don't feed us that bullshit. I don't give a fuck what you, or he, thinks of the law. the law is the law. it's easy to follow, and in this case, it's also easy to break without being caught. this kid, and any other pothead who gets caught, aren't victims. they knew their actions were illegal and were dumb enough to get caught. and no, this doesn't mean I agree with the law, because I don't. I don't agree with many laws but that doesn't give me the right to break them. this druggie victim bullshit is old, has no foundation, and will get you smokers nowhere.

1/25/2011 7:27:39 AM

so wait, do you love the gubmint or do you hate the gubmint? make up your mind, wingnut.

1/25/2011 8:10:23 AM

i wonder what he was doing to get pulled over

1/25/2011 9:25:26 AM

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"drugs dont really work that way when it comes to payment. he probably didnt put any of his money upfront...he may get it and then sell it to someone else who gets more of a profit from it on the larger scale. the top of the food chain. the people that are at the top dont have any part of the dealing and transport though, they just manage the places, people and ways of the money. I've done a study on this awhile back so thats why i get a little bit of the system but have NO vlue how it really works for each group. its alot like a ponzi scheme i guess, hard to explain. still think its dumb to drive cross country with it. "

You're talking about drug enterprises that are run like a corporation. This kid wouldn't fall into those rules or limitations. It says in the article that he personally wired $70k to California and then flew out there to pick up the shipment. He would be like the small business/sole proprietorship of the drug world. There are a ton of others out there just like him. The main difference being that the vast majority of them get their door kicked in by other dealers or the police long before they start dealing in sums this large.

1/25/2011 9:46:11 AM

there is a mind numbing amount of retard ITT.

1/25/2011 9:57:04 AM

ITT PEOPLE WATCH TELEVISION AND THINK IT'S REAL

1/25/2011 10:20:30 AM

No offense, but I think you're the naive one here.

1/25/2011 12:41:14 PM

None taken. It would be nearly impossible for anyone that defends eleusis to offend me because I'm very unlikely to place any value in what they say.

Furthermore, I haven't even stated an opinion about the topic of this thread so I'm not really sure what you're talking about.

1/25/2011 12:45:54 PM

I occasionally walk my dog down this street. They are always nice on that street. I guess bc they are high

1/25/2011 12:49:23 PM

Meanwhile a grocery store in Raleigh makes $250,000/year of the sales of alcohol which has been proven to kill people....

1/25/2011 12:52:31 PM

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"i wonder what he was doing to get pulled over"

being a young person driving a minivan down a known drug trafficking corridor

doing 5 over

1/25/2011 12:54:35 PM

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"None taken. It would be nearly impossible for anyone that defends eleusis to offend me because I'm very unlikely to place any value in what they say. Furthermore, I haven't even stated an opinion about the topic of this thread so I'm not really sure what you're talking about."

Well, I assumed you were referring to my last post since it was the last post with any substance prior to your comment. Forgive me if I assumed incorrectly.

As for the eleusis thing, I'd wager that a farm boy from Warren County might have a pretty good idea on those sorts of things. Even if you don't want to listen to him there are plenty of studies that show it being one of NC's top cash crops; so unless you can cite something to the contrary you're still wrong.

[Edited on January 25, 2011 at 12:56 PM. Reason : s]

1/25/2011 12:55:55 PM

^it's been cited as the United States #1 cash crop as well....

1/25/2011 12:56:59 PM

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"i wonder what he was doing to get pulled over"

following too close

1/25/2011 1:39:52 PM

http://www.drugscience.org/Archive/bcr2/Appendix_State_MJ_Prod.pdf

NC is listed as the 5th largest producer of marijuana in the continental US, and the 2nd and 3rd largest producers are our Appalachian neighbors Tennessee and Kentucky. Combine this with the steady influx of imported drugs flowing through I-85 and I-95 en route to the Northeast, I'd say there is more than enough marijuana to be found locally.

By crossing state lines, he turned this into a federal case with a federal sentence, so he'll do 90% of his time. He could have gotten off with much less if he didn't decide to drive 3 days across the country with a felony in the trunk. He should have done like everyone else and just made up some name and mentioned Humboldt when selling it, and no one would have known the difference.

1/25/2011 2:10:54 PM

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"Well, I assumed you were referring to my last post since it was the last post with any substance prior to your comment. Forgive me if I assumed incorrectly."

You assumed incorrectly. You are forgiven.

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" As for the eleusis thing, I'd wager that a farm boy from Warren County might have a pretty good idea on those sorts of things. Even if you don't want to listen to him there are plenty of studies that show it being one of NC's top cash crops; so unless you can cite something to the contrary you're still wrong."

The problem with know-it-alls is that you can't trust them even when they actually do know what they're talking about because it's hard to distinguish it from all the bullshit.

I am aware that a significant amount of weed is grown in NC. I never cast any doubt on that. It is a fact. You are arguing against a point that was never made.

Anyone asserting, however, that there is absolutely no conceivable business reason to travel to Cali for a transaction of this type is just flat wrong.

Also, I hope eleusis gets shot by an overzealous cop.

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"no one would have known the difference"

Wrong. You wouldn't have known the difference.

1/25/2011 2:13:56 PM

wow, somebody pissed in your cornflakes this morning

1/25/2011 2:16:56 PM

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"he drove across the country to pick up something that is grown locally? What a dumbass."

Thats like saying "he went to Ruth Chris for a steak instead of getting the chopped steak in Fountain Dining Hall? What a dumbass."

1/25/2011 2:16:57 PM

i'm sure there's at least some similar quality weed produced in NC. I'm certain of it. Would he have gotten that kind of deal on it? Guess not. great risks, great rewards... seems like he'd done it a couple times before, he had a good run. shoulda kept his mouth shut though.

1/25/2011 2:20:00 PM

I'm quite positive that you can indeed get the primo quality weed in North Carolina

However I doubt you're going to find a lot of people in North Carolina willing to dole out 26 pounds of headies for $168 an ounce

1/25/2011 2:22:52 PM

not to mention, if he didn't know the right people to get it from in-state, he wouldn't have access to a local crop

1/25/2011 2:43:09 PM

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"However I doubt you're going to find a lot of people in North Carolina willing to dole out 26 pounds of headies for $168 an ounce "

1/25/2011 2:45:58 PM