AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
wat 8/22/2011 7:55:52 PM |
RockItBaby Veteran 347 Posts user info edit post |
Sell one share of Bank of America for 6.50 buy one share of the ETF XLF the financial component of the s&p 500 for 12.00. I just wanted some hedge for FED tricks and games that could halt the beating B of A is taking. If the stock goes up the XLF should cancel out any losses, its not the best hedge as if B of A goes to zero the XLF is likely hammered as well. The main point is to hedge any more tricks from the FED. Took longer than normal to locate shares to sell short , thought that was funny. 8/22/2011 10:35:50 PM |
RockItBaby Veteran 347 Posts user info edit post |
Oh look 15 min before the open the front-running scumbag from Omaha, throws his 5$ billion hat into ring. Wonder if he got any calls from Nantucket this week. Now all we need to wait for is to see what he was front-running. 8/25/2011 9:46:58 AM |
RockItBaby Veteran 347 Posts user info edit post |
Sold more at 8.20 and bought 12.80's on legs. This 5$b changes nothing, it just means the Feds bail out will be $5b less. 8/25/2011 6:06:40 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Bank of America to axe 30k jobs
http://www.businessinsider.com/bank-of-america-to-cut-30000-jobs-in-the-us-2011-9
Certainly not good news for Charlotte...or anyone, really. 9/12/2011 11:42:19 AM |
RockItBaby Veteran 347 Posts user info edit post |
No big deal, the new jobs bill will be able to cover it in fold. $7.05, ha boners who bought 8.50's on buffet morning. 9/12/2011 6:05:15 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
This latest FOMC announcement is not good news for Bank of America. 9/21/2011 3:11:59 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
credit rating down graded too (along with a few other big boys)...Moody's opinion was that the gov won't bail out a 'too big to fail' institution this time around 9/21/2011 4:27:18 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
This bank is on its way to the slaughterhouse. Start chopping that meat up baby. 9/21/2011 7:43:18 PM |
RockItBaby Veteran 347 Posts user info edit post |
Heard a couple of desks quit trading with b of a 9/22/2011 11:40:59 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Chop that meat, chop that meat
Might have to add Morgan Stanley to the watchlist after that headline today. Wow 9/22/2011 12:21:52 PM |
RockItBaby Veteran 347 Posts user info edit post |
into the 5 handle 9/23/2011 8:53:21 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Morgan Stanley pulls into the lead as we enter the home stretch.
Which bank goes down first? Place your bets! 9/23/2011 10:06:00 AM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Which one goes first really doesn't matter, just the hundreds that follow.
9/23/2011 11:21:09 AM |
HOOPS MALONE Suspended 2258 Posts user info edit post |
Dude
It was a novel about isolation, not a blueprint for political philosophy
Even if it was, it was about a charismatic fascistic leader
But then again, Ron Paul has his own personality cult 9/25/2011 12:09:25 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Bac with the $5 fee uh oh! 9/29/2011 5:15:48 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
$5/month fee to use your debit card. Jesus christ. Any tricks to get around this? I have a shit ton of checks 9/29/2011 6:49:01 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
There's really only one solution...pull every last dollar out of your Bank of America account and move it to a different bank. 9/29/2011 6:50:55 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Working on it! 9/29/2011 6:57:53 PM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "$5/month fee to use your debit card" |
wtf9/29/2011 7:05:48 PM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
You need to just stop using bank debit cards. I havent used mine once. Carry an AMEX and mastercard. That covers all charges. Its really the way we should be doing it anyway. Who wants fraudulent charges going to your bank account? While you'll get your money back eventually, its a lot less messy if it happens on a charge card. 9/29/2011 7:55:45 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
just a matter of time before all banks start charging for a debit card 9/29/2011 8:54:16 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
Dump the banksters. Dump BOA! 9/30/2011 11:50:39 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
It's only annoying if you regularly shop somewhere that doesn't take credit cards, which I used to when I lived in North Carolina. Now, I've only used by debit card at Costco, and the last time I went I used my AMEX. Just use credit cards and collect your 1-6% cash back rewards. 9/30/2011 11:56:43 AM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Dump the banksters." |
9/30/2011 11:57:24 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Tick tock. European lawsuits now 9/30/2011 5:34:54 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "$5/month fee to use your debit card. Jesus christ. Any tricks to get around this? I have a shit ton of checks" |
cancel your account and move to another bank. vote with your feet. also, people should know that this kind of fee is directly attributable to Dodd-Frank. You took away the banks' ability to charge people who were costing them money by abusing and misusing their accounts, so instead they'll charge everyone, even those who are responsible with their accounts. Can't say we didn't tell you so9/30/2011 6:47:29 PM |
Phelps All American 612 Posts user info edit post |
First off, like Carzin said, I don't know why people feel the need to use debit cards. Credit cards offer the same level of convenience with more perks. If you don't have credit then maybe just consider using cash.
But with that being said I don't blame people for looking at this new charge on an individual level and deciding that the service BofA is offering (convenience) at the price they are charging for it ($5) isn't worth it. People are right, there are other options. I wouldn't argue with anyone who said they were changing banks based on this new fee.
What I don't get is the populist outrage. Every day we are faced with purchasing decisions where we decide if the price for a product or service is reasonable. Bank of America doesn't owe anyone free checking. They have made a decision and it's going to cause some customers to leave, Netflix did the same and I didn't understand why people felt entitled to mail order DVDs at a certain price.
Arguably, you could applaud this fee. (ok applaud is probably not the right word but...) I think people had a legitimate beef with the hidden fees and sketchy overdraft practices. People were getting charged fees they weren't expecting. This one is upfront and simple. You know exactly what is going to trigger the fee.
And I know, "but we bailed their asses out". True, but besides the fact they paid it back, the bailout didn't turn BofA into a charity. They have to continue to make decisions they think are good for business and good for shareholders. Thats what businesses do. People hate the idea of that. But that is what companies do. 10/1/2011 8:52:34 AM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "First off, like Carzin said, I don't know why people feel the need to use debit cards. Credit cards offer the same level of convenience with more perks." |
Quite right. Stop using the now regulated exchange fee debit cards and start using the still unregulated exchange fee credit cards. Let us see how long they remain unregulated. Of course, now that people no longer have a competitive choice between the two, the credit card issuing banks will jack up their profits.
Quote : | "What I don't get is the populist outrage. Every day we are faced with purchasing decisions where we decide if the price for a product or service is reasonable." |
But this didn't happen because BofA decided it wasn't profitable given the competitive marketplace to not charge the fee. This fee is because of an act of Congress shifting profits away from consumers through banks to retailers. People should be upset when Congress takes advantage of them, we elect them after-all so if there are any policies we have a right to get upset about it is when our elected representatives harm us by interfering in private contract disputes.10/1/2011 9:10:57 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
It doesn't really matter. BOA will be bankrupt very soon anyway. It might not be worth the hassle of moving because whatever bank you move to will probably be buying their carcass soon. 10/1/2011 11:13:40 AM |
RockItBaby Veteran 347 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like the slap on the wrist robo signing settlement talks are falling apart. That's too bad. 10/1/2011 11:31:29 AM |
Tarun almost 11687 Posts user info edit post |
site down, whats going on? 10/3/2011 12:52:43 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Bank runs in the modern age? Not when you can have "temporary technical issues"! 10/3/2011 12:57:32 PM |
mofopaack Veteran 434 Posts user info edit post |
run on deposits, that is whats going on 10/3/2011 2:24:57 PM |
RockItBaby Veteran 347 Posts user info edit post |
$5.65 everything is fine carry on 10/3/2011 2:27:41 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
It's funny that a $5 fee is why people are threatening to leave rather than oh I don't know the hassle of trying to get your money back after the bank collapses 10/3/2011 2:29:26 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
excellent read
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/224004/20111003/bank-of-america-debit-card-fee-anger-durbin-occupy-wall-street.htm 10/3/2011 3:00:51 PM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
Jokes on you. Banks don't want poor people that can't afford a measley $5 as customers anyway. 10/3/2011 3:39:28 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
actually, before the overdraft legislation, that's exactly who they wanted...overdrafts accounted for their largest non interest income pool. They had a sweet deal going until they got greedy with charge structuring and the like.
between that and transaction fee limits, they're gonna be scrambling to come up with all sorts of hinkey ways to get fee money. 10/3/2011 3:47:22 PM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
Bank of America issued a press release assuring everyone that the website outage was just a run on the bank, and NOT the work of hackers. You can all breath easier. 10/3/2011 7:55:06 PM |
Tarun almost 11687 Posts user info edit post |
still down, i am getting mah monies out for good! 10/4/2011 10:34:51 AM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
Let 'em fail! Good riddance to the banksters. 10/4/2011 10:48:49 AM |
Phelps All American 612 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Let 'em fail! Good riddance to the banksters." |
Why would you want 280,000 people to lose their jobs and the see the financial system thrown into total chaos (again)?10/4/2011 8:29:13 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "people should know that this kind of fee is directly attributable to Dodd-Frank" |
That is a crock of shit. Perhaps BoA should explore ways of creating wealth not wringing out the wealth of the american people like a sponge to line Hugh McCall's pocket.10/4/2011 9:41:00 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
^bullshit. This is ONE MAN who decided to put crap into a bill to dictate to an entire industry what is a fare rate to charge. Now that they are now passing on that fee to consumers because of ONE MAN'S actions, people are pissed and Durbin is covering his ass. It is just a matter of time before people start blaming "the free market" for the fee. ahhaha, typical moron politicians disrupting an entire industry and then blaming the industry when it adapts.
Then the same moron senator encourages a run on a US bank.... fucking unreal. 10/4/2011 10:13:51 PM |
Chance Suspended 4725 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why would you want 280,000 people to lose their jobs and the see the financial system thrown into total chaos (again)?" |
All those people won't lose their jobs you asshat. Are you really ok with having the bill for their stupid mistakes being added to your taxes? The fuck if I am. We already have systems for marking assets to market prices and forcing bonholders and stock owners to eat losses for their stupid investments. What is left are many many branches with the same people staffing them under new ownership. Sure, some people will lose jobs as capitalism weeds out the shitty portions of their enterprise and they'll be redeployed.
Think for a minute and stop eating the panic cake these thugs are feeding you.10/4/2011 10:37:41 PM |
paerabol All American 17118 Posts user info edit post |
Burn in hell BoA
So glad I dropped them for ncsecu 10/5/2011 1:00:48 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
if i move to using a credit card full time do i want to apply for a third party card instead of using my bank issued visa? 10/5/2011 9:19:40 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "bullshit. This is ONE MAN who decided to put crap into a bill to dictate to an entire industry what is a fare rate to charge. Now that they are now passing on that fee to consumers because of ONE MAN'S actions, people are pissed and Durbin is covering his ass. It is just a matter of time before people start blaming "the free market" for the fee. ahhaha, typical moron politicians disrupting an entire industry and then blaming the industry when it adapts.
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Your partisan hackery is clouding your judgement. BoA is simply looking for the easiest path possible to stuff their bottom lines and to make customers pay for their shitty business decisions that caused them into choppy waters during the banking downturn.
I hope people are not stupid enough to continue using a BoA debit card instead of taking their business elsewhere. BoA has made a profession out of fucking over the average consumer and small business.
Banks make money from each debit card transaction. So please tell me how a $5 charge is "necessary" to provide the funding for the infrastructure that allows such transactions to begin with.
[Edited on October 5, 2011 at 9:51 AM. Reason : a]10/5/2011 9:49:19 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
^but they likely would not be charging this fee if it weren't for the new law limiting transaction fees to merchants.
does BOA have to charge this to still earn money via debit transactions? of course not. they're losing one revenue stream so they're trying to create another. either way, it's being passed on to consumers; however, consumers don't appreciate a direct fee. when it was hidden (via charging the merchant) consumers were ignorant to the fee. however, I highly doubt we see a decrease in product prices due to the lower transaction fee, so in the end, this law does nothing but increase costs for BOA customers.
[Edited on October 5, 2011 at 10:01 AM. Reason : .] 10/5/2011 10:00:18 AM |