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8/21/2011 12:49:34 PM

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"how much of your pizza are they eating?"

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"how much of your pizza are they eating?"

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"how much of your pizza are they eating?"

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"how much of your pizza are they eating?"

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"how much of your pizza are they eating?"

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"how much of your pizza are they eating?"

8/21/2011 1:00:24 PM

Yay! Minka!

8/21/2011 1:05:36 PM

So on the previous page, I posted something about 1.5 to 2 days. I actually think it may have been four more days a year that women take over men. I did a very, very quick google, as well, and found an article that compared male and female absenteeism between 1994 and 2006:

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"According to BLS numbers, the overall absenteeism rate dropped to 3.2 percent in 2006, compared with 4.2 percent in 1994. Among men the rate dropped to 2.4 percent from 3.1 percent in that period, while for women it declined to 4.3 percent from 5.7 percent."

http://tinyurl.com/3m8xlx7

Furthermore, I mentioned something about how women take more days because they have more family/home obligations than men. But the little article suggests that I may have been too quick to accept that conclusion:

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"Patton and his co-author Gary Johns found that elevated absentee rates for women could not be fully explained by health, family or job issues. Instead the researcher postulated that social expectations have created an "absence culture" for women that may be a factor. "This absence culture for women may partially legitimize absenteeism for this group and attenuate perceptions of deviance surrounding women’s absence," the researchers said. "At the same time, such an absence culture, regardless of whether it leads to actual higher absenteeism for particular women, may also be harmful to women in other ways.”"

http://tinyurl.com/3m8xlx7

They suggest that women should simply take sick days when they need them, and they don't have to go around telling everybody why they need them (I'm sick, my kid's sick, my kid has a play/graduation/whatever...).

(The article is pretty short and interesting. But it's also four years old.

[Edited on August 22, 2011 at 1:46 AM. Reason : ]

8/22/2011 1:45:12 AM

just another example of women fighting for equality yet demanding difference when its convenient

8/22/2011 1:59:54 AM

Actually, the point is that it's not that simple. There's lots of stuff going on. Here's another weird one:

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" Among single dads, the absentee rate is also higher than the rate for men without children. What’s interesting, McMenamin points out, is that married men with kids actually report a lower rate of absences than men without children. It was so surprising to this labor data expert that he checked back to 2000 and found the trend is consistent for the past six years."

I mean, if employers are serious about getting the absolute most dedicated people, then they need to move away from a gendered/baby-making view of absenteeism...get a little more advanced/complex with their profiling/stereotyping--it's not just about women and babies. And they need to pay attention to who actually misses days, not just who they perceive is missing days. But it's kinda hard (and ridiculous) to convince people to be more systematic about something they won't even admit to doing (stereotyping).

8/22/2011 2:34:15 AM

% of time girls are sick = % of time their man is trying to sex them up

8/22/2011 9:14:52 AM

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"just another example of women fighting for equality yet demanding difference when its convenient"

8/22/2011 9:22:27 AM

Off the top of my head I can think of more girls I know getting sick or not feeling well on a regular basis than guys. However part of that perception might be created because guys are less willing to admit when they don't feel well.

As far as me, outside of hangovers I rarely feel under the weather. I can work from home on occasion so every once in a while if I get a really bad night's sleep (insomnia, not from staying out late partying) or have bad indigestion then I will call in sick if I know there isn't anything pressing going on at work. As far as being sick sick, where I actually need to see a doctor and/or get prescription meds I'd say that happens about once every 3 years.

8/22/2011 9:49:17 AM

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"What’s interesting, McMenamin points out, is that married men with kids actually report a lower rate of absences than men without children. It was so surprising to this labor data expert that he checked back to 2000 and found the trend is consistent for the past six years.""

Sounds to me this helps explain the wage gap, some. You have married men, who on average, spend more time at work, a fact that employers recognize and for which they are rewarded.

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" " "Why does the country have a 10% unemployment rate?" Most people have an unwillingness to relocate. "

There is also a skill gap between those desired for available jobs and those held by the unemployed.

[Edited on August 22, 2011 at 9:56 AM. Reason : [quote]]

8/22/2011 9:56:20 AM

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"by being a boss "

running another pizza joint in the ground are we

8/22/2011 9:58:10 AM

I haven't been sick for 2-3 years, I can't remember the last time I was. I haven't even had much of a cold, maybe some sniffles in 2010 but nothing to go to the doctor for. I also haven't called into work sick since I've started in Jan 2011.


I'll probably piss a few people off with this statement BUT--- I'm so fucking tired of hearing people complain about some disease or ailment they suffer from. Ever notice that there always seems to be some girl, somewhere, who always has something wrong with her.

I'm always running into these people and I think mostly they are just attention seekers, people who want someone to coddle them and and give lots of "oh you poor thing". YES WE KNOW IT'S ALLERGY SEASON AND YOU HAVE ALLERGIES, TAKE YOUR MEDICINE AND SHUT UP.
Maybe I'm being too judgmental but it's pisses me off when you can't have a conversation with someone without them having to bring up their IBS or some kind of problem with their reproductive organs.

8/22/2011 10:51:06 AM

8/22/2011 10:51:57 AM

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"You know, by being a boss of female and male employees and by being someone's boyfriend, I get to see how often people get sick. It seems to me that girls usually get sick 2 days per week or 8 times a month on average. Guys, on the other hand, usually get sick once a month on average for the span of about 2 days. (Hangovers not included as being sick)"

My dad worked a job for >40 years, and he adamantly never missed a day due to being sick. This is in spite of having 3 kids.

Now, he was lying several times when he said he wasn't sick, and I can even remember one time he "started" to come down with something but was "fighting" it. Nonetheless, the fact that some people go on a multiple-decade streak while only posting a handful of times when they got sick shows that sickness is a state of mind in large part.

Being sick 2 days a week is a problem with mentality. Not immunity.

8/22/2011 10:59:55 AM

agreed on that.

had a coworker that routinely missed 2-3 days per week or work. and all the work they were doing fell on me. they'd come in to do the easy stuff, then let the harder stuff pile up and of course it got to the due date and she hadn't touched it.

fortunately she finally decided to quit

8/22/2011 11:03:06 AM

I am definitely sick more than anyone around me, but I have the most horrible allergies and other internal issues. The only times I ever call out are when I'm too sick to drive, and that has only been a handful of times. I'm not counting the two weeks I had to take off after my appendix ruptured or the few times I showed up and was told I looked like death and had to go home. I tend to dope myself up and just deal with it.

8/22/2011 11:13:30 AM

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"had a coworker that routinely missed 2-3 days per week or work."

I just... can't even...

8/23/2011 7:59:19 AM