Cheap jokes for loser folks.

9/12/2011 11:25:40 PM

nortlp

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"moreover, your request for prosecuting people who are injured by a lie basically already exists. If you can show actual harm by a lie, whether it be libel, slander, or anything else, you can recover damages. basically, your whole concern is moot, because it is already covered by current law. show you've been harmed, you get paid. how the fuck was this guy harmed? is the dude gonna die now because he can't sit his fat ass down at his local White Castle and get fatter? is he losing income because he can't sit down at White Castle and swallow some sliders? Did the chair collapse and crush his cat on account of it not being properly balanced for his weight distribution? Did he fail a math test because he wasn't able to study as well while slurping down the big gulp at his local White Castle? what, kind sir, is his specific case of harm? butt hurt?"

9/12/2011 11:30:44 PM

spoke too soon

[Edited on September 12, 2011 at 11:58 PM. Reason : oh he back]

9/12/2011 11:56:32 PM

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"why should white castle be liable for not holding true to a contract that was never made or signed? moreover, your request for prosecuting people who are injured by a lie basically already exists. If you can show actual harm by a lie, whether it be libel, slander, or anything else, you can recover damages. basically, your whole concern is moot, because it is already covered by current law. show you've been harmed, you get paid. how the fuck was this guy harmed?"

Missing the whole point.

We are preserving integrity in the populous.

For instance, a police chief got punished for doing far LESS than a lie. A police chief got fired in Florida this week because he was being "insubordinate" to the mayor's requests. Did he do anything wrong? No. Did he lie? No. He was doing his job the right way, which happened to be the opposite of what the mayor wanted. As a result, he was fired.

Here is the quote from the verdict: "This has been a painful process for the City, but at the same time has demonstrated that our city demands that its employees respect their superiors and follow the Charter," he said."

They had to preserve the integrity of the system. Without integrity, the system simply does not work.


Now, WHITE CASTLE is a corporation held to a higher integrity standards than the customer in this case. If you allow white castle to lie, all the other corporation can use it as a precedent to lie to their customers. Customers need to be able to trust these business entities or else the system is going to break.

We're already lied to in virtually every commercial that's put on TV. Wouldn't it be nice if the commercials didn't lie?

"Hi. I'm Jen. I owed $1,000,000 to the IRS and all I had to pay was $1000!!!"

"Dairy Queen makes bubbles with kittens inside"

"Quality is the reason it tastes great at Taco Bell"

"Redbull gives you wings"

But that's television...they could just say it's entertainment.

Back to real life:
The customer used respect and gave ample time and proper, proven notification to comply to his "request". The letter saying "yes, we will install a seat for you" should mean that this man will win his case guaranteed.

9/12/2011 11:57:00 PM

the fattie is a stock broker...all his trading went belly up so he's going for the quick buck

9/13/2011 12:03:04 AM

2 years isn't quick.

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"White Castle sent him free hamburger coupons and promised that it would expand its booth sizes."

Sorry, but he wins.

9/13/2011 12:05:05 AM

can someone please tell me where that .gif is from on pg 1

9/13/2011 12:07:56 AM

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"Missing the whole point. We are preserving integrity in the populous."

no, YOU are missing the point. That is NOT the government's job. at the point that government can "preserve integrity," it can make any law it sees fit to do so, and it will undeniably make bad ones. it will make laws that benefit itself and that will hurt the people, especially when they try to reform the government. by demanding that there actually be harm in order recoup damages, we prevent this.

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"For instance, a police chief got punished for doing far LESS than a lie. A police chief got fired in Florida this week because he was being "insubordinate" to the mayor's requests."

again, you are confusing actions that involve the government with actions that don't. The police chief often serves at the pleasure of the mayor. that's how it works.

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"Now, WHITE CASTLE is a corporation held to a higher integrity standards than the customer in this case. If you allow white castle to lie, all the other corporation can use it as a precedent to lie to their customers. Customers need to be able to trust these business entities or else the system is going to break."

and if companies lie about little shit, then people will simply go elsewhere. if the companies lie in advertising, they can be held accountable. problem solved, with no need for "integrity legislation."

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"The customer used respect and gave ample time and proper, proven notification to comply to his "request". The letter saying "yes, we will install a seat for you" should mean that this man will win his case guaranteed."

no one signed a contract. no one is bound by any contract. man isn't harmed at all. case closed. he should bitch and moan about to his friends until White Castle either fixes it or goes out of business. that's how capitalism works. the government isn't here to make people play nice and on the playground and make us all sing harmony harmony oh love. no wonder you ran a pizza store into the ground.




btw, you still haven't shown how this guy was harmed. gonna do that?

[Edited on September 13, 2011 at 12:19 AM. Reason : ]

9/13/2011 12:08:27 AM

Don't think that all because you won a bitcoin argument against Arab13 that you are even close to winning this argument. You keep losing sight of the premise. You know damn well that we BOTH KNOW LYING IS LEGAL. I am arguing my stance on why IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL.

The example I used was a real life example that is similar to HARSH justice from doing something less than lying. It also pinpoint why INTEGRITY is so important.

You're not going to find an example that's completely the same to prove my point... since this case is unique.

You're justifying that lying is OKAY because it's not illegal, which is a stupid argument. All because you CAN it doesn't mean you SHOULD.

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" "btw, you still haven't shown how this guy was harmed. gonna do that?" Martin Kessman, who weighs 290 pounds, complained to management for more than two years after repeatedly knocking his knee into the tables' metal supports. "

I don't know why you want to see that, it has nothing to do with lying.


[Edited on September 13, 2011 at 12:26 AM. Reason : .]

9/13/2011 12:22:18 AM

construing the letter as a binding contract is absurd. it's laughable.

but even if it was, who cares? he's just a fatty.

9/13/2011 12:27:55 AM

Why is it laughable?
It's not laughable at all.

A letter with your letterhead, typed out by your corporation's hands, with your signature is not laughable.

If you're laughing, then you have misplaced humor in a serious situation. It's condescending and it's toxic for the progress of humanity.

9/13/2011 12:35:22 AM

I think we've gotten to the bottom of things:

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"winning this argument"

Reminds me of my time as an adolescent.

9/13/2011 9:23:49 AM

^^ i find your stupidity funny

9/13/2011 9:25:01 AM

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"Why is it laughable? It's not laughable at all. "

It's laughable because it's not a contract.

9/13/2011 9:28:16 AM

Fat guy in a little booth

9/13/2011 11:54:51 AM

Consider the booth size limit a friendly reminder. If you can't fit in the booth perhaps you shouldn't be eating. It works out.

9/13/2011 12:11:45 PM

^

9/13/2011 2:01:04 PM

lol

9/13/2011 2:06:30 PM

This thread makes my head hurt.

9/13/2011 2:09:49 PM

it truely is dizzying

9/13/2011 2:56:27 PM

let me sum up this thread so far




then

9/13/2011 3:07:35 PM

We definitely need a refresher on the Internet of what trolling is.

9/13/2011 3:32:58 PM

ya i guess you're right, you two might be dumb enough to argue about this for hours and not be trolling

9/13/2011 5:01:56 PM

^

[Edited on September 13, 2011 at 5:26 PM. Reason : \/ ]

9/13/2011 5:16:57 PM

^^,^ see now that is trolling. good job.

9/13/2011 5:23:53 PM

Yo when you put more effort into the troll than the person supposedly being trolled, you're not doing it well.

9/13/2011 7:12:43 PM

OK you're a troll, he's a troll blah blah blah

can we get back to bashing fat people now?!

9/13/2011 7:43:33 PM

This was on my friend's Facebook yesterday:

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"Bad parenting observed at Starbucks: a 6-8 yr old given a grande choc chip frappuccino and a 12-13 yr old given a TRENTA choc chip frappuccino. No wonder our county has health issues!"

9/13/2011 8:51:02 PM

I don't speak Italian..

9/13/2011 8:54:16 PM

9/14/2011 2:35:16 AM

Herro White Castre? Can i prease-a have 60 sriders derivered? thanks

9/14/2011 2:55:20 AM

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"HYATTSVILLE, Md. (AP) — Michelle Obama said Thursday that a pledge by the Olive Garden and Red Lobster restaurants and its sister chains to serve healthier meals is a "breakthrough moment" for the industry. Darden Restaurants Inc. is pledging to cut calories and sodium in its meals by 20 percent over a decade. Among promised changes for children, a fruit or vegetable side and low-fat milk will become standard with kids' meals unless a substitution is requested."

Promises don't mean anything in America.

9/15/2011 2:59:48 PM

Breaking a promise is lame but suing over a broken "promise" is even lamer. What an immature, fast-food eating man.

9/15/2011 3:05:28 PM

It's fun to keep tabs on self-righteous shitheads who are all high and mighty about how they're "anti-hate" when it comes to gays and Amendment 1, but as soon as an opening is there, attack obese people as "secondary citizens."

9/15/2011 3:08:49 PM

^Exactly. I hate fat people as much as the next guy... but come on. All he wants to do is sit in your restaurant comfortably.

At least be honest and post a sign that says "Must be under 40" waistline to sit in this establishment"

Don't lie and say you'd accommodate the man and renig.

[Edited on September 15, 2011 at 3:29 PM. Reason : .]

9/15/2011 3:19:47 PM

^^While I don't think "hating" any other citizen is good nor do I condone it, I can somewhat see what makes some other people appear that way in their reactions and I don't think you can really compare the two. At all.

On one hand you have people who are being denied citizen rights that other Americans have simply due to something out of their control. On the other hand you have someone here who can't fit into a booth at a fast food restaurant but still has every opportunity to buy and consume the food as he pleases otherwise. Boohoo they promised and didn't deliver. It's crappy fast food. If it bothers you that much, take your business elsewhere and post an angst-ridden rant on your facebook page or something, but don't waste time possibly tying up the legal system.

[Edited on September 15, 2011 at 3:27 PM. Reason : ]

9/15/2011 3:23:15 PM

i'm just sayin' dawg.

a second-class citizen is a second-class citizen.

so how can anyone try to champion the rights of one class while simultaneously openly scorning the very existence of another.

don't mind me. just making a point.

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as far as the lawsuit - there's no consideration, it's not a contract, it's considered an illusory promise at best, and he's not entitled to any relief whatsoever.

but that's not what i'm commenting on at all. i'm more or less commenting my observations at peoples' reactions to the story in the first place.

[Edited on September 15, 2011 at 3:29 PM. Reason : .]

9/15/2011 3:27:05 PM

The fact that some people don't like them is not enough to make them a second class citizen imo. They aren't denying him service. I do understand what you are saying about being two-faced though.

The main issue I have here is that regardless of fat or not, people suing over stuff that is not a legal issue is simply a major pet peeve of mine for some reason.



[Edited on September 15, 2011 at 3:34 PM. Reason : ]

9/15/2011 3:28:42 PM

Are we arguing that fat people are second class citizens??

Because they are. Just sayin.

9/15/2011 3:32:50 PM

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"The main issue I have here is that regardless of fat or not, people suing over stuff that is not a legal issue is simply a major pet peeve of mine for some reason."

Agreed 100%.

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"Are we arguing that fat people are second class citizens?? Because they are. Just sayin. "

LOL my point exactly.

9/15/2011 3:34:32 PM

I hate when people take more effort, time, and money and put it into something that can be solved so easily such as this case. It doesn't hurt anyone to put 1 or 2 handicap seats in there for larger guests. To deny this man a seat is causing pointless upheaval for no real benefit for themselves other than a sense of pride for being naturally skinny.

[Edited on September 15, 2011 at 3:46 PM. Reason : .]

9/15/2011 3:46:09 PM

^He's denying himself a seat by continuing to be a fat ass.

And it's not as simple as putting in a "handi-cap" seat. Shit, this guy would probably sue if they put in a handi-capped seat because he would say that he's not handi-capped and they are being discriminatory. But if they put in a couple seats at one place, they have to put them in all of the White Castles. That's expensive as shit.

Much more cost effective to just tell this fat fuck to go run a few laps around the drive-thru before ordering his dozen sliders.

9/15/2011 4:04:46 PM

quote: "He is suing for bigger chairs and unspecified damages because he says the eatery is violating the Americans with Disabilities Act. (He compares himself to pregnant women and the handicapped.) "

9/15/2011 4:10:27 PM

Also, I don't know if I have ever been inside a fast food place that had 0 regular chairs and all booths. They aren't denying him service and chances are there are other places for him to sit in their establishment besides a booth. (granted, I'm hardly ever in a fast food join these days so maybe things have changed).

[Edited on September 15, 2011 at 4:15 PM. Reason : ]

9/15/2011 4:11:36 PM

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"quote: "He is suing for bigger chairs and unspecified damages because he says the eatery is violating the Americans with Disabilities Act. (He compares himself to pregnant women and the handicapped.) ""

Forgot about that. Fuck it...he's still fat.

9/15/2011 4:17:04 PM

Perhaps buying one chair is the solution.

Like I said, the solution for this case is elementary and for it to blow up this large is mind blowing.

9/15/2011 4:19:45 PM

Cripples get ramps. Preggos get choice parking. Fatties can nothing, and thats the way it should be.

9/15/2011 4:20:01 PM

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"and for it to blow up this large"

9/15/2011 4:21:32 PM

why does the establishment have to pay for a chair though? They already built their restaurant to the legally established building codes which include ADA requirements. If they thought they were losing business over their booth size they would have already done it (assuming the unlikely case that they have no regular chairs already).

I understand not wanting to be discriminatory, but at the same time there is something to be said for establishments not having to bend over backwards for every little complaint and request if it isn't a legal issue.

[Edited on September 15, 2011 at 4:30 PM. Reason : ]

9/15/2011 4:28:30 PM

If someone can't walk into the building with their own legs, then they get their own wheelchair... White Castle doesn't provide a moving sidewalk from the parking lot or rental wheelchairs

If someone can't fit into a any available seat (built to code requirements), then they should bring their own chair/wheelchair to sit at the end of the table.... White Castle shouldn't have to provide it

9/15/2011 4:55:44 PM