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pryderi
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Yes, because eliminating the death penalty is the is equivalent to not funding a police force and judicial system.

Great logic you got there, Grumpy.

9/26/2011 2:10:11 AM

disco_stu
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He wasn't making that equivocation at all. The cost of Capital Punishment is not a good argument against it. One could equally use cost as an argument for streamlining the process. For me, if we're going to have capital punishment, it should be expensive and it should take a long time to vet the process.

9/26/2011 4:13:49 AM

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texas doesn't play

https://theintercept.com/2016/08/02/jeff-wood-didnt-kill-anyone-but-texas-is-about-to-execute-him-anyway/

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"Many states have laws comparable to Texas’s Law of Parties, but few apply them to the death penalty; fewer still have actually executed people who didn’t directly cause someone else’s death. Since the death penalty was reinstated in 1976, only 10 individuals who didn’t directly kill the victim have been executed, one each in Florida, Utah, Oklahoma, Indiana, and Missouri, and the remaining five in Texas. What sets these cases apart from Wood’s is that most capital defendants were present during the murder, sometimes even fired shots or participated in torturing the victim."

8/2/2016 11:33:55 AM

skywalkr
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That guy fucked up on many fronts. He didn't even let his lawyers defend him during the penalty phase. He also signed a confession saying he knew the actual shooter was bringing a gun a planned on using it if necessary. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

8/2/2016 11:53:49 AM

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Man whose competency to stand trial is questionable makes stupid decisions about his defense. Imagine that.

8/2/2016 12:40:11 PM

Lionheart
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Death penalty should be much harder to obtain but not completely outlawed. Provide federal oversight and restrict it to high crimes, mass murder, genocide.

So a state seeks capital punishment, before it can be carried out it has to be vetted by a federal jury or judge and there has to be beyond even the normal reasonable doubt standard assurance that the act was committed by the individual, proper court proceedings, and fits the defined criteria, otherwise the sentence gets commuted to life.

So someone goes all Timothy McVeigh and the OKC bombing and then fuck that guy. But this would hopefully get rid of a lot of the racially biased and emotionally motivated sentencing.

Some might say this isn't enough, you should outlaw it all, but I don't think it's right either that guys like Breivik in nations without any capital punishment get to just hang out after going on a killing spree.

8/2/2016 12:54:37 PM

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