no it really was, and not a very bright idea. I get what he's trying to do and I think it's awesome but 3 is a bit extreme

9/26/2011 2:53:27 PM

I was on the Herman Cain Train until he cancelled on Colbert.

9/26/2011 2:56:31 PM

hyperbole grabs attention- if he simply explained that he thought bills were too large as they are and he didn't like that, then it would be lost in the wind. By saying what he said, he made it known that he thinks it is an issue that needs to be fixed. Of course he would have signed the civil liberties act...

9/26/2011 2:56:54 PM

^

9/26/2011 2:59:18 PM

^^so yelling shit that perpetuates stereotypes of black people not reading was the way to go?

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 3:02 PM. Reason : .]

9/26/2011 3:00:55 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN5AZsfpH40


you are really blowing that out of proportion...

9/26/2011 3:03:00 PM

What the fuck are you talking about? Why are you bringing up race? If you think black people don't read, that makes you the racist, right?

9/26/2011 3:03:53 PM

i thought republicans are pretty much racist rednecks and don't support black candidates. i'm confused.

9/26/2011 3:04:40 PM

these are NEW republicans...they pretend racial tolerance

they can't bring themselves not to hate the gays yet, though...probably because a lot of them are closet homos while most of them aren't closet minorities

9/26/2011 3:15:20 PM

Your post is full of poignant insight. Please keep it up.

9/26/2011 3:16:05 PM

ah, the rhetoric of a liberal hackjob.

keep on with your lies and deceit. it's entertaining.

9/26/2011 3:18:34 PM

The more and more the left tries this tactic, the harder and harder it fails for them.

Herman Cain coming up on Hannity's radio show today.

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 3:21 PM. Reason : ]

9/26/2011 3:20:55 PM

Quote :

"Do you think we still belong in Afghanistan? I can't answer, because I don't have all the information that the president has in making that determination. Whether or not we should have gone in the first place? That's also is a fuzzy kind of thing. What's the mission in Afghanistan? Based on news reports, going to Afghanistan was supposed to be to help them fight off the Taliban. i think that's the mission, but I'm not sure. If that's the mission the next question is can we win in this fight against the Taliban. I don't know the answer to that. All I know is if you look back in history Russia tried the same thing. And they finally gave up. "

Herm doesnt even know what the mission in Afghanistan is ... unelectable

Quote :

"Is there anything in the PATRIOT Act that bothers you, that you'd want to see reversed, or are you pretty much okay with that legislation? I think that the PATRIOT Act is about 90 percent right on. I can't delineate to you exactly what I would want to change, but here again I would rather error on the side of caution and protection, rather than worry about that ten percent that I might have a problem with. Perfect legislation doesn't exist. But I'm happy with legislation that's 90 percent right on especially if it's going to protect the people."

supports the patriot act ...

Quote :

"What would you say to a civil libertarian who argued that we all want to safeguard American lives, but that if you don't draw some legal line then the government is going to tend to use its authority for nefarious purposes? What I'd say to them is this. I think it's one of our founding fathers who said - I think it might have been Thomas Jefferson, it might have been Abraham Lincoln, I'm not sure - if men were angels, we wouldn't need laws. Men are not angels. I'm okay doing what we need to do to protect this country. And if we see an opportunity where we need to change a law, then let's change it. Because if we try to debate hard and long how we create the perfect law, we could be annihilated by then. Let's pass laws that are 90 percent right on, and then go back and debate whether or not we need to change somethings - rather than waiting until we have a law or legislation that everybody feels is 100 percent. "

Lincoln was not a founding father ... maybe he and Palin should have a study group

Quote :

" CAIN: We don’t need to rewrite the Constitution of the United States of America, we need to reread the Constitution and enforce the Constitution. … And I know that there are some people that are not going to do that, so for the benefit of those who are not going to read it because they don’t want us to go by the Constitution, there’s a little section in there that talks about “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” You know, those ideals that we live by, we believe in, your parents believed in, they instilled in you. When you get to the part about “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,” don’t stop there, keep reading. Cause that’s when it says “when any form of government becomes destructive of those ideals, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it.” We’ve got some altering and some abolishing to do!"

doesnt know the difference between the constitution and the declaration of independence ...

9/26/2011 3:24:11 PM

Quote :

"If you think black people don't read, that makes you the racist, right?"

I didn't say black people don't read.

The point of my post was to say I don't think it's smart for a black candidate to use hyberbole in this way, creating a soundbite that perpetuates that stereotype, which does exist. or this website wouldn't exist: http://www.blackpeopledoread.com/

Fine, forget about the race point.

Any candidate basically shouting that he does not like to read is not smart, imo.

9/26/2011 3:31:40 PM

I like how liberals pick and choose the walks of life they support.

- They won't support polyamory as a recognized institution but they'll march in the street to support 2 person homosexual marriage as a federal and state recognized institution with tax credits and all.

- They'll support certain groups such as the NAACP to protect civil liberties of one minority, and completely ignore the pleas and countless efforts of another. While one race has an average income well below other races, they'll more than double the funding to the 'deserved' welfare of another.

- Liberals love to promote the labor unions that fight so hard and protect the jobs of the worker from the big evil corporation. While certain immigrants slave away with little to no compensation or rights. And at the same time not even planning a pathway to citizenship to help them.

9/26/2011 3:34:02 PM

^^that "soundbite" had no implications of race, or could it be construed that way- he said he thinks they're too long, people don't have time to read them, and he wants people to be able know what their government is doing while still living their lives... He didn't say they need to make them in to picture books for the poor illiterate black folks...

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 3:35 PM. Reason : h]

9/26/2011 3:34:10 PM

Quote :

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i would never vote for this guy

9/26/2011 3:34:59 PM

We get that already, thank you.

9/26/2011 3:36:27 PM

^^why? because he says the same thing about liberals that lefty's say about republicans?

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 3:36 PM. Reason : ^]

9/26/2011 3:36:38 PM

^

9/26/2011 3:36:59 PM

what gunzz meant to say was "I will never vote for a republican for the rest of my life based on the fact that i have made up my mind that i will 100% vote liberal and am incapable of doing otherwise despite rabid proof about my own parties failures. I refuse to accept that failure and will simply take quotes out of context to try and poke holes in the competition"

see to people like gunzz and many other people in the united states politics is like voting for a person on american idol. it doesn't matter who is more talented. it matters who the masses that think like them will vote for and they fall directly in line.

9/26/2011 3:40:02 PM

no, because he is a moron ... thats why

i've clearly posted recent quotes about his idiocy

9/26/2011 3:40:39 PM

^see what i mean?

9/26/2011 3:41:04 PM

thanks for putting words in my mouth ...
i never said the likes and would gladly vote republican if there was a candidate that i think is good for the country.

Herm Cain is not that person - he doesnt do know the difference between the constitution and the DOI / dont you think the POTUS should know this?

9/26/2011 3:42:24 PM

I don't think an idiot would be handed the reins of a company to save it, or become the chairman of the federal reserve bank of kansas city. He also worked as a contractor for the navy in Ballistics, has post graduate degrees in computer science, and has written four books. sounds like a complete numbskull to me


and fwiw, no past president or presidential candidate (especially democratic candidates) has ever mispoken- EVER

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 3:47 PM. Reason : s]

9/26/2011 3:45:58 PM

and here i am posting reasons as to why and giving examples and all you are doing is talking about american fucking idol

plus, im in a high tax bracket so why wouldnt i vote more right? mainly its b/c they havent impressed me a viable candidate

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^ good for him; still would be a horrible POTUS. lol at being the chairmen of the federal reserve. he even said recently that there was no need for an audit of the FR .... lol

said if people were so concerned at what the federal reserve is doing then they should just call the bank and ask.....

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 3:47 PM. Reason : perfect candidate ]

9/26/2011 3:46:01 PM

there are very large, very uninformed masses that would never vote republican simply based on the lies and propaganda they've been fed from the media their entire lives. it's almost like a "fan" instead of an actual thinking human being making an informed decision.

"oh ok all the X people are voting for Y therefore I must vote with them or I am against X"

if herman cain kept his beliefs 100% as is but added the phrase "I am a democrat"
the dude would have swept obama clean last election.

9/26/2011 3:48:15 PM

Quote :

"and has written four books. sounds like a complete numbskull to me"

these two things are not mutually exclusive

9/26/2011 3:49:36 PM

no, they aren't, but that was just another example (and probably the weakest in my argument)

9/26/2011 3:50:27 PM

Herman Cain's misspeaking is nothing compared to Obama's and nowhere remotely close to Biden's.

Ask Obama how many states there are and see if we're over sixty yet.

9/26/2011 3:51:55 PM

I know it shouldn't, but it completely boggles my mind that people still use that as an example of the president not being smart

9/26/2011 3:53:14 PM

i like how thegoodlife picked the weakest evidence in there and reposted it.

lol you can't hide truth but for so long.

fucking professional propaganda up in here. ha

9/26/2011 3:54:32 PM

fucking amateur trolling up in here

9/26/2011 3:56:39 PM

obamas latest gaffe:

"If asking a billionaire to pay the same tax rate as a Jew, uh, as a janitor makes me a warrior for the working class, I wear that with a badge of honor. I have no problem with that."

-congressional black caucus awards banquet over the weekend.





i cant imagine the liberal circlejerk up in here if bush had said the same thing. professor obama is excused from such rookie mistakes because he isnt a texas yahoo, basically.

9/26/2011 4:00:32 PM

ha. i think the real troll is in the white house. remember:

Marijuana hasn't been legalized, the gay community has not been defended as it was promised, troops are still in afghanistan and iraq at higher numbers than ever before, the military has opened a new front in Libya, Guantanamo Bay is still open for business, unemployment is at a higher rate and continues to worsen, the debt of the nation has grown more in 3 years than did in the last 8, there is no change.

9/26/2011 4:03:05 PM

anyone who thinks cain is electable is too stupid to understand how the real world works...it's that simple

you can like what he says all you want, but to believe that he will ever garner enough national public support to become anything but a minor nuisance, you're delusional...even if republicans could swallow the idea of supporting a black guy, he's TOO black

9/26/2011 4:10:59 PM

comments like ^ make me laugh.... and then shake my head

9/26/2011 4:12:29 PM

Quote :

"If asking a billionaire to pay the same tax rate as a Jew, uh, as a janitor makes me a warrior for the working class, I wear that with a badge of honor. I have no problem with that.""

even without the jew part, this is a huge blunder, though the left love to use it as ammunition against the rich.

news flash: billionaires don't pay the same tax rate as janitors. they pay more. billionaires are taxed at the highest tax bracket... 36% I think? a low wage janitor pays much less, if anything.

9/26/2011 4:15:34 PM

Quote :

"anyone who thinks cain is electable is too stupid to understand how the real world works...it's that simple you can like what he says all you want, but to believe that he will ever garner enough national public support to become anything but a minor nuisance, you're delusional...even if republicans could swallow the idea of supporting a black guy, he's TOO black "

do people really say these things in 2011???

unreal. just pure opinion based. love it. you can't hide truth man. you're days of using witty opinions to try to sway the masses are over.

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 4:21 PM. Reason : the days of fact and evidence and truth have begun]

9/26/2011 4:20:11 PM

quagmire is proving for us that lefty liberals are just as if not more racist than your average dumb white trash.

its one thing to put on a bedsheet, hang a confederate flag, and use the N word constantly.

its quite another to pretend to be educated and claim to not be racist while attempting to live an informed life.

id say one of these is far more dangerous than the others.

9/26/2011 4:20:24 PM

Quote :

"there are very large, very uninformed masses that would never vote republican simply based on the lies and propaganda they've been fed from the media their entire lives. it's almost like a "fan" instead of an actual thinking human being making an informed decision."

This is what I've come to believe. America seems to be incredibly team oriented to the point of "pick a team and stick with it, they must win no matter what". Aside from band wagon fans, that is.

9/26/2011 4:23:51 PM

it just amazes me that human beings think like quagmire in 2011

9/26/2011 4:30:33 PM

hahaha, it has nothing to do with being liberal and everything to do with living in reality

bump this thread when cain is the chosen republican candidate...who knows, the republicans could believe that they only competition for obama is a black guy

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 4:32 PM. Reason : hey, i'll stop posting on tww for 6 months if cain becomes the next president]

9/26/2011 4:32:09 PM

Quote :

"these are NEW republicans...they pretend racial tolerance they can't bring themselves not to hate the gays yet, though...probably because a lot of them are closet homos while most of them aren't closet minorities "

yup, as a republican i pretend to be racially tolerant

9/26/2011 4:33:39 PM

Quote :

"Marijuana hasn't been legalized, the gay community has not been defended as it was promised, troops are still in afghanistan and iraq at higher numbers than ever before, the military has opened a new front in Libya, Guantanamo Bay is still open for business, unemployment is at a higher rate and continues to worsen, the debt of the nation has grown more in 3 years than did in the last 8, there is no change."

Yes. Obama is virtually a carbon copy of George W. Bush with slightly different rhetoric. The policies themselves might as well be the same. The war on terror, the war on drugs, and assault on civil liberties have never let up.

Herman Cain is not different, though. He can speak in generalities right now to avoid taking any hard positions, but you must be on crack if you believe that he would make the sweeping changes necessary right now. I know Boortz and some other radio personalities are pushing this guy right now, probably because they genuinely believe that it will take a black guy to beat the black guy, but the guy is incompetent.

9/26/2011 4:35:38 PM

Quote :

"hyperbole grabs attention- if he simply explained that he thought bills were too large as they are and he didn't like that, then it would be lost in the wind."

exactly, and that makes me sad

9/26/2011 4:35:39 PM

^^^^

again, nothing but random threats, and making hypothetical bets about something he has no idea about.

it's like he's trying to find his superior liberal footing but just comes off sounding like a bully trying to pick on smaller kids. makes no sense.

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 4:39 PM. Reason : ^]

9/26/2011 4:39:23 PM

so...can i expect you to come back and admit that i was right (and i will be) when cain gets nowhere?

i will humbly come back and admit that i was hugely wrong, misguided, and bent on reinforcing republican stereotypes if cain even nabs the republican nomination...i will GLADLY admit that my supposedly outdated understanding of the average republican mindset is exactly that - outdated - if cain gets the nomination

i can expect the same from you when it ends up being a white dude (because, let's be honest, the female contenders are far too stupid to be anything but fodder for late night comedy)?

9/26/2011 4:46:13 PM

we arent saying he will be the nominee.

we're saying you're retarded.

there's a difference.

9/26/2011 4:47:15 PM

Quote :

"This is what I've come to believe. America seems to be incredibly team oriented to the point of "pick a team and stick with it, they must win no matter what". Aside from band wagon fans, that is. "

I feel like this as well, I almost wish we could do away with political parties. I think a lot of people support one side blindly without ever actually looking at the pro's and con's of each candidate. I guess it makes it easier on people and heaven forbid we become free thinkers.

9/26/2011 4:58:41 PM