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12/31/2011 3:00:20 PM

Maybe Elvis dies from too many banana and peanut butter sandwiches.

12/31/2011 3:20:55 PM

my dog always runs to the door barking when i get a pizza. sometimes she slips out the door, the delivery guy is all "crazy dog, man. "

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wake sheriff's vendetta against dogs:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6772247/
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/9638947/

[Edited on December 31, 2011 at 4:07 PM. Reason : a]

12/31/2011 3:53:00 PM

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"TRAILER PARK DOG"

12/31/2011 3:58:22 PM

Tons of cop haters itt

12/31/2011 4:00:54 PM

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"Police should not be using deadly force in anything but the most extreme situations. No one was in any danger of getting killed until that dumb cunt of a cop pulled a gun."

Deadly force against an animal =/= Deadly force against a person. Also, so dogs should just bite people? An officer, doing his job, should not go out on workers comp or become disabled because of an animal? If an officer gets hurt, who foots that bill?...the taxpayers. So in a weird twist you end up paying for the officers injuries but if he kills the dog we move on. I'm in no way an apologist but lets be real, shooting a dog that you view as a threat is no brain-er. Just as a citizen on a jog, you shoot a dog, fine. People might be upset and there is a potential civil liability but you did what you had to do to protect yourself.

12/31/2011 4:30:47 PM

^ I agree with this

If the officer felt the dog posed a threat, he was totally in the right to shoot it.

12/31/2011 4:34:11 PM

^ yeah but what if the dog wasn't actually a threat?

Just because an officer "feels" something doesn't mean it's anywhere close to reality.

Outside of executing a raid, officials don't have a different standard of when they can shoot a family pet than anyone else.

If a normal person can't go around shooting animals they feel threaten them, neither should cops.

[Edited on December 31, 2011 at 5:13 PM. Reason : ]

12/31/2011 5:11:56 PM

I think that this is all speculation, of course the owners do not believe he was being aggressive at all, and of course the officer will defend his actions.... this is a moot discussion

12/31/2011 5:13:18 PM

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"Obviously, this seems a lot excessive but 99.9% of TWW will react like a cop raped and killed a baby if they do ANYTHING wrong."

That is because when they do something wrong most of the time they get away with it or at worst get a paid vacation. If I was in someones yard and their dog ran at me barking and I shot it I WOULD BE IN A SHIT LOAD OF TROUBLE...

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"Deadly force against an animal =/= Deadly force against a person. Also, so dogs should just bite people? "

Are you really this dense? He was discharging the gun in a residential area. Do you not understand the potential risk of a police officer discharging a gun at a moving object in a fucking trailer park? HE DECIDED TO USE DEADLY FORCE WHICH COULD EASILY POSE A SIGNIFICANT RISK TO THE COMMUNITY. Sounds to me like someone wasn't doing his job properly...

12/31/2011 5:19:31 PM

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"Deadly force against an animal =/= Deadly force against a person. Also, so dogs should just bite people? An officer, doing his job, should not go out on workers comp or become disabled because of an animal? If an officer gets hurt, who foots that bill?...the taxpayers."

So you think mailmen should carry guns and kill dogs that bark at them? They are government employees and draw their workers comp from the taxpayers also.

12/31/2011 5:28:16 PM

FUCK THE POLICE!!!!!!!

OCCUPY WAKE COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICE

12/31/2011 6:10:58 PM

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" I will say that a cop showed up at my door at 7am one day, I took my dog with me because the cop car was parked around the corner and we don't have a peep hole. The cop didn't announce he was in fact a cop and he was banging really loud and it scared the crap out of me. Anyway, I had m dog restrained, but by my side. The cop had his hand on his gun and said he will shoot my dog, and I told him that I didn't even know there was a cop at my door and he needs to chill out because she is doing her job. I put her away, came back to the door and he said, "if I have to I will kill your dog". I was pretty fucking pissed at his gun ho attitude, but I understand that he doesn't know me or my dog or if I would have released her on him...etc, but the fucker had his gun out of his holster when I went back to the door. I just wish there was a less trigger happy approach to these situations."

I would have told him to get fucked and to leave my property immediately.

[Edited on December 31, 2011 at 7:18 PM. Reason : ]

12/31/2011 6:56:16 PM

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"Are you really this dense? He was discharging the gun in a residential area. Do you not understand the potential risk of a police officer discharging a gun at a moving object in a fucking trailer park? HE DECIDED TO USE DEADLY FORCE WHICH COULD EASILY POSE A SIGNIFICANT RISK TO THE COMMUNITY. Sounds to me like someone wasn't doing his job properly..."

Any use of deadly force could easily pose a significant risk to the community dolt. Its a double edged sword that have to consider before pulling the trigger. But, honestly, do you think this officer was wildly shooting his sidearm at the dog like it was a shootout at the O.K. Corral? He shot a dog, which is about 2.5 feet tall; its not difficult. This dog wasn't human; it wasn't 6 feet tall, jumping off a roof, driving a car or running around PetSmart. Stop trying to turn this into a, "OMG, think about the children."

^^Shit like that, if true and I know it does happen, pisses me the fuck off.

[Edited on December 31, 2011 at 7:21 PM. Reason : ...]

12/31/2011 7:20:35 PM

12/31/2011 7:57:06 PM

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"Any use of deadly force could easily pose a significant risk to the community dolt. Its a double edged sword that have to consider before pulling the trigger. But, honestly, do you think this officer was wildly shooting his sidearm at the dog like it was a shootout at the O.K. Corral? He shot a dog, which is about 2.5 feet tall; its not difficult. This dog wasn't human; it wasn't 6 feet tall, jumping off a roof, driving a car or running around PetSmart. Stop trying to turn this into a, "OMG, think about the children.""

OK fucktard. From the account it sounds like the officer panicked when the dog came at him. Do you think that he had enough time to asses if it was safe to fire in the direction of the dog? If so he had more than enough time to use some other safer means (pepper spray etc.) so my guess is it was a panicked response which is completely reckless.
Also how many moving targets have you taken out with a handgun? It isn't as easy as you seem to think.

The biggest risk of pulling out a gun and firing it in a panic: You hit an innocent bystander.

The biggest risk of not being a pussy and realizing you are over twice as big as the dog and it can't really hurt you: You get bit by a fucking boxer.

The guy made a bad decision and you fucking bootlickers can't even take off your blinders long enough to realize it.

12/31/2011 7:59:56 PM

would a stun gun kill a dog?

[Edited on December 31, 2011 at 8:11 PM. Reason : I guess it'd be like stun gunning a toddler or child, mass-wise]

12/31/2011 8:10:36 PM

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"From the account it sounds like the officer panicked when the dog came at him. Do you think that he had enough time to asses if it was safe to fire in the direction of the dog? If so he had more than enough time to use some other safer means (pepper spray etc.)"

Don't know, wasn't there. Where you? Could you make the choice quick enough? Too close and O.C. will do more harm than good. Use of force encounters, this is not because its a dog and the courts don't recognize dogs as humans beings, are rapidly evolving situations (Graham v. Connor). Also you of force is not a to b to c; it what meets the level necessary. Those are facts, not speculation or conjecture.

What you seem not to get is that neither of us were there to make the judgement call the deputy made. Obviously he felt justified in defending himself and that it could be done safely.

The biggest risk of pulling out your gun and firing it in a panic is that you don't do as trained and get killed. When is the last time you have heard, not saying that it has ever happened, of an innocent bystander being hit by an officers stray bullet?

Yeah, so what if you get bit. Fuck, who needs to work or put food on the table.

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"Also how many moving targets have you taken out with a handgun? It isn't as easy as you seem to think."

More than I care to share, what about you?

12/31/2011 8:14:28 PM

TIME TO ASSES

12/31/2011 8:15:39 PM

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"When is the last time you have heard, not saying that it has ever happened, of an innocent bystander being hit by an officers stray bullet? "

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/06/innocent_bystander_shot_in_che.php
http://gothamist.com/2011/09/08/nypd_its_possible_a_police_bullet_k.php
http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/wach/killed-on-camera-miami-style666/
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/307813

Just googling innocent bystander hit by officers bullets gives you a lot of possible instances didn't really do too much verifying.
The difference here is for the most part police were pursuing armed assailants who could actually do harm to the community at large. They were not firing their weapons because they were scared a dog might bite them.

[Edited on December 31, 2011 at 8:26 PM. Reason : asdfad]

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"Yeah, so what if you get bit. Fuck, who needs to work or put food on the table. "

Because someone is certainly forcing him to be a police officer. Ohhh that's right there aren't that many options out there for failed jocks with high school diplomas.

[Edited on December 31, 2011 at 8:30 PM. Reason : missed this gem...]

12/31/2011 8:26:08 PM

Just FYI, two of those articles are the same story, one says they will never know, and the other one I'll give you.

12/31/2011 8:37:11 PM

They will never know but ballistics points to it being the cops...

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/SF-Cops-Accidentally-Shoot-2-Bystanders-130014653.html

[Edited on December 31, 2011 at 8:50 PM. Reason : and more]

12/31/2011 8:41:42 PM

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"Don't know, wasn't there. Where you? Could you make the choice quick enough?"

He's not a fucking police officer. These people are supposed to be able to make quick and good decisions at a moment's notice. These people's jobs are to make life or death decisions, and you people want to give him a fucking pass because you want to hold him to the same standards as a non-officer?

If someone had a pistol and they shot a dog in a residential neighborhood, the person probably would have been charged with reckless endangerment and discharging a weapon in public, all while coming under an investigation. A pig does it and you people just go "Oh, well he could have been out of work!!!!111 And uh, it's only a dog!"

Can anyone explain to us why pepper spray wasn't used? Or how the dog got shot in the back of the head when he was charging towards to the police officer?

12/31/2011 9:03:26 PM

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"He's not a fucking police officer. These people are supposed to be able to make quick and good decisions at a moment's notice. These people's jobs are to make life or death decisions"

/Thread. Appears he was able to make a quick and good decision at a moments notice, based on his training and experience. You can't hold an officer and non-officer in the same standard because of the nature of the job. Read the case I posted above.

12/31/2011 9:22:57 PM

^ No one can judge a police officer because they are special

12/31/2011 9:37:37 PM

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"Or how the dog got shot in the back of the head when he was charging towards to the police officer?"

field testing "boomerang bullets" is the general consensus on this on wral.

12/31/2011 9:38:18 PM

Trailer

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12/31/2011 9:39:20 PM

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"he got away with because Donnie Harrison is one corrupt fucking sheriff "

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"Attorneys for a former inmate at the Wake County jail say in a federal lawsuit that a detention officer slammed the inmate into a wall and bench because he did not keep his mouth open for observation for several minutes during a strip search. The lawsuit, filed late Wednesday, also accuses Wake County Sheriff Donnie Harrison of running a jail that fails to properly investigate detention officers' beatings of inmates in places where surveillance cameras are not in place to observe what happened. Eugene Dunston, 50, a Wake County resident, is one of three inmates who suffered injuries during strip searches by the same detention officer, Michael J. Hayes, in the past 15 months, according to the inmates or their families. Dunston said he suffered a deep gash over one eye and a torn ear. Jail officials have disputed the claims of assault and abuse, and Hayes, 38, has not received suspensions or demotions for any of the incidents. On Thursday, a sheriff's spokeswoman, Phyllis Stephens, said the sheriff and jail staff would have no comment because of the pending litigation. Another of the three inmates, Joshua Martin Wrenn, 30, of Benson was in a coma for months after Hayes struck him in the head with his fist on April 3. Wrenn is now in a rehabilitation facility and cannot talk, walk or feed himself, according to hisfamily. Wake County District Attorney Colon Willoughby declined to press charges after a State Bureau of Investigation probe. Willoughby said Hayes had used necessary force after Wrenn came at him. Willoughby also said Wrenn likely had a pre-existing condition such as an aneurysm that burst after the single blow. Another former inmate, Devaughn Holmes, 36, of Fuquay-Varina, said Hayes broke his right arm in a struggle during a strip search on Sept. 27, 2010, because Holmes did not want to wear what he described as soiled underwear. Jail officials say he did not report the broken arm. Medical records from the night after he left the jail show it was broken just below the elbow. Dunston's lawsuit said that while he was naked and in handcuffs, Hayes, a body builder, slammed him head first into the wall and bench. Dunston said Hayes was angry because Dunston had closed his mouth during the strip search before Hayes had told him he could. Detention officers look into the mouths of incoming prisoners to make sure they are not bringing contraband into the prison. Dunston said Hayes had made him keep his mouth open for roughly 10 minutes, and he closed it because it ached. In the lawsuit, Dunston also alleges another officer, Waco Douglas Jr., beat him a year earlier on a cell floor. Dunston sought the video, but the sheriff's department would not produce it, he said. In the end, he said he pleaded guilty to assaulting Douglas, as part of a deal to be released for time served. Douglas also is named as a defendant in the lawsuit. The strip-search rooms did not have surveillance cameras when Dunston, Holmes and Wrenn were handled by Hayes. Last month, the jail installed cameras in them, and on the day of Dunston's injuries, Hayes was transferred out of the booking area and into a jail annex that houses well-behaved inmates. Jail officials have said Hayes' transfer had nothing to do with the injury claims, but they declined to say whether the cameras were installed in response to them. Raleigh attorneys Gregory Kash and Eric Doggett are representing Dunston. Last month, they filed a separate federal lawsuit on his behalf alleging a Raleigh police officer, Daniel P. Egan, broke Dunston's leg during an improper stop in 2008. Dunston also has won a $9,000 settlement from the state Department of Correction to settle a lawsuit in which he accused correction officers of roughing him up in 2001."

http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/12/23/1728868/former-wake-jail-inmate-sues-sheriff.html#storylink=misearch


Donnie Harrison is a fucking coward who hides behind a badge and Colon's colon

1/1/2012 12:43:41 AM

if the dumbass dog owners had properly restrained their dog, it wouldn't be dead.

1/1/2012 9:30:48 AM

if the dumbass cop hadn't shot the dog it wouldn't be dead

if dumbass Jesus hadn't created dogs there wouldn't be dogs to die

if guns shot skittles instead of bullets dying would taste like a rainbow

1/1/2012 10:03:45 AM

lol those would be some delicious bullets.

Hell for all we know the officer is flat out lying about the dog seeming aggressive. I seriously doubt we'll ever hear the full truth of what went down that night. For all we know it could have been something like this: http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/abc11_investigates&id=8140686

1/1/2012 10:10:39 AM

cops shoot dogs for fun

it's a poorly kept secret

1/1/2012 10:27:32 AM

Non aggressive
trailer park
Dawg

1/1/2012 1:28:17 PM