1/22/2012 8:22:36 PM

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1/22/2012 10:02:37 PM

1/22/2012 10:05:32 PM

This thread needs more face offs.

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1/22/2012 10:14:28 PM

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1/23/2012 11:04:31 AM

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1/23/2012 11:21:38 AM

AMMIDOINITRITE

1/23/2012 11:28:29 AM

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"Newt doesn't stand a chance. Neither does Romney. Democrats are happy."

1/23/2012 12:07:15 PM

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1/23/2012 1:08:14 PM

1/23/2012 2:36:20 PM

I don't know why everyone is hating on Newt for trading up in the wife department a few times. I would rather have someone in office that is not complacent.

Obama still wins that department too, married hot and educated the first time.

1/23/2012 2:38:59 PM

^^nice

1/23/2012 2:40:40 PM

1/23/2012 2:44:56 PM

Dude, this mom is scary

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1/23/2012 2:45:31 PM

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2/5/2012 8:34:06 AM

I <3 this thread

2/5/2012 10:36:24 AM

romney or santorum and thats it. santorum would be better for the conservative cause. romney would be better at potentially winning

2/5/2012 11:30:30 AM

Romney will beat Obama. Mark it down. Americans are tired of having an amateur ruining the economy

2/5/2012 2:34:07 PM

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"Romney will beat Obama. Mark it down. Americans are tired of having an amateur ruining the economy"

Romney doesn't know shit about running a country.

Romney says he'll reduce government, and I believe him, because he'll expand the power of corporate interests!!

The dude is a spitting image corporate america. Look at him. He is the epitome of what Occupy Wall street is trying to open your eyes to.


Also, Romney's foreign policy is detrimental to our country.

[Edited on February 5, 2012 at 2:37 PM. Reason : .]

2/5/2012 2:37:13 PM

^ and Obama does? Sorry but the proof is in the pudding. Sluggish recovery plus 4 consecutive years of a trillion plus deficit and he deserves to be replaced. Romney's expertise is running a business, and he has been very successful at it. I dont give a shit how much money he has made, it means he was good at what he did.

And is BO good at reducing corporate interests? He has received the more campaign contributions from Goldman Sachs than anyone else, and his "stimulus" check to Solyndra confirms his stance with corporate interest. The company made huge campaign contributions to BO, and this was his payback by giving them a $535m loan that they pissed away.

[Edited on February 5, 2012 at 3:31 PM. Reason : .]

2/5/2012 3:30:33 PM

TALKING POINTS

2/5/2012 3:33:07 PM

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"and Obama does? Sorry but the proof is in the pudding. Sluggish recovery plus 4 consecutive years of a trillion plus deficit and he deserves to be replaced. Romney's expertise is running a business, and he has been very successful at it. I dont give a shit how much money he has made, it means he was good at what he did. "

Sluggish recovery? Where? I've seen recovery every day since obama's been in office.


I'm afraid Obama's weakness is government debt, although, IT TAKES MONEY TO MAKE MONEY. It took me 5 years with 1 business to come out of $180,000 debt. Try taking a country with millions of businesses in the middle of a freefall and $6 TRILLION debt and try to turn a profit in 4 years. You'll see it's impossible.

Obama has fulfilled all his promises. Even the bad ones like "obamacare".

The fact is... we need someone like Ron Paul in there to fix the debt. It is perfect timing and it's never been more right for Paul's ideas of removing $1 trillion from the budget and restoring order away from corporate interests and corrupt politicians. The smaller the government, the less money they'd need to collect for taxes and the more money people will have in general to grow the economy much FASTER than Obama's plan.

[Edited on February 5, 2012 at 3:46 PM. Reason : .]

2/5/2012 3:45:22 PM

definitely don't see obama winning NC again

2/5/2012 3:49:01 PM

between romney and obama, you don't see obama winning?

2/5/2012 3:52:57 PM

This recovery? Even BO himself said it was sluggish, and these numbers dont include those who have exceeded unemployment benefits, underemployed/ those who took a part time job bc they couldnt find full time, and those who have left the job market bc they couldnt find a job.

I just dont agree with the policies he has enacted to "speed recovery." From the "shovel ready" jobs that he now admits were not shovel ready from the stimulus, to the payroll tax holiday that doesnt do dick, to the stimulus checks to old people who put it in savings or pay off debt. The stimulus was mostly a waste of money full of earmarks, and the jobs it did create were temporary govt jobs. He has drastically increased the size of the govt, in which the median income for govt employees exceeds the private sector for the first time in history.

And there are plenty of things BO has not done that he promised. But the thing that sticks out to me is from his debates with McCain which he said "we need to go through the budget to cut out wasteful spending" and no more 11th hour bills to congress. whelp the final versions of stimulus and obamacare gave congress a matter of hours to read thousands of pages before it was voted on. He also promised to have the bills online for the public to view before voting. None of this has happened.

2/5/2012 3:54:45 PM

i see nc going red no matter what. unless the gop candidate totally implodes on a national level

2/5/2012 3:56:44 PM

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"Even BO himself said it was sluggish"

He said it was sluggish because it is sluggish. But that's a GREAT THING. We don't want to see it skyrocket. That's a sure sign something highly illegal is going on.




Look at 99-'00... when the economy goes up too fast, its doomed to fail.


Go here really fast and look at the dow jones from the beginning of its time. You'll understand what it's supposed to look like versus when people are manipulating the system.

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=^DJI+Interactive#symbol=^dji;range=my;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined;

compare when the dow lifted off like a rocket ship to the years of the national debt.




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2/5/2012 4:10:47 PM

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" and Obama does? Sorry but the proof is in the pudding. Sluggish recovery plus 4 consecutive years of a trillion plus deficit and he deserves to be replaced. Romney's expertise is running a business, and he has been very successful at it. I dont give a shit how much money he has made, it means he was good at what he did."

Following this logic, the guys over at Enron were doing a bang-up job.

2/5/2012 4:28:34 PM

market performance =/ economic recovery

and i dont see the correlation of the Dow to national debt. the dow is an index of large cap companies. Market performance is a "sentiment" more than anything else. Perfect example is this past year. Companies will report good earnings and their stock will go down. Thats bc the the market is not fundamental.

I also dont see how you can say a sluggish economy is a GREAT THING. Again, market performance does not = economy performance. And the spikes in the Dow you refer to are more of a reflection of bubbles than anything else. the market cant go up forever, and there are naturally corrections. The key is how does the economy recover. For example, look at the tech bubble in 2001. When Bill left office W took over at the brink of a recession. I do not think W was a great president by any means, and i disagree with a lot of what he did, but he handled the threat of a prolonged recession by lowering the cap gains rate, and the economy recovered. Reagan also fought off 12.5% inflation and near 11% unemployment. Now both Reagan and W caused deficits, but there was recovery. BO has caused deficits, but no recovery. Its been done before, and BO has failed to do it. Its that simple.

Point is there are many technicals to determining an economic recovery, and the market is one of many (and one of the lesser ones). Unemployment rates, consumer confidence, company earnings, etc.

2/5/2012 4:33:12 PM

no long paragraphs of rambling horseshit ITT

2/5/2012 4:36:01 PM

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2/28/2012 10:13:30 PM

2/28/2012 10:14:01 PM

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3/23/2012 10:32:48 AM

newt gingrich could probably go blow for blow with him and get nasty

but no one is seriously going to beat obama, america is just going to stick with the incumbent numskull instead of electing a new one

ive decided im not voting, im going to turn in a blank ballot as far as the presidential race, fill in the rest

santorum is a nut, hes super conservative about shit that is not at all important to us as a nation. Romney is not a conservative and hes puss; Gingrich is a crook; paul is a nutjob and a kook

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3/23/2012 11:06:02 AM

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"santorum is a nut, hes super conservative about shit that is not at all important to us as a nation. Romney is not a conservative and hes puss; Gingrich is a crook; paul is a nutjob and a kook "

Exactly. Which is why i'll vote for Obama, even though he's not quite what I want.



Here's to hoping 2016 produces better assholes.

3/23/2012 11:10:57 AM

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"santorum is a nut, hes super conservative about shit that is not at all important to us as a nation. Romney is not a conservative and hes puss; Gingrich is a crook; paul is a nutjob and a kook"

Obama 2012

Also I have hated Romney ever since I saw a clip of him belittling this like pittiful looking quadraplegic guy at a town hall because he asked him a question about medical marijuana. Might be a petty thing to disqualify a candidate for...but its my vote I can be petty.

[Edited on March 23, 2012 at 11:33 AM. Reason : .]

3/23/2012 11:31:44 AM

This dude is awesome on Pawn Stars

3/23/2012 12:21:55 PM

He's also the best host on bob and the showgram

3/23/2012 1:14:06 PM

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