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2/29/2012 2:55:42 PM

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"That was not made clear by the thread title"

agreed

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"or even most of the video"

uh, yeah it is, but you already admitted you only watched 2 minutes of it

2/29/2012 2:55:54 PM

yeah thread title should have said "complaint"

my bad

2/29/2012 2:56:47 PM

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"Wouldn't it be easier and more efficient to sort through paper complaints to determine which are legitimate, rather than have a meeting with every plaintiff? From that point, any legitimate complaint is not a waste of taxpayer money."

Not with the amount of complaints that would end up getting turned in...and how they would be filled out. I work with a ton of lower income clients who can barely read and write as grown adults. You need a professional to get most of these stories out correctly. With the method you are proposing, a perfectly good complaint would get thrown out or ignored because the complainant might be illiterate or didn't tell their story properly.

And I assure you there would be way more complaints if you could do it this way. It would not be more efficient. The system (as flawed as you might think it is) weeds out a TON of bullshit. Hell...sitting down with attorney stops 80% of lawsuits/complaints in itself. Having someone who is knowledgeable in the field tell you exactly what is going on, clears up a lot.

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"Asking about taking a form home gets you cuffed...yeh, I don't get why someone wouldn't want to fill out a complaint form while standing in front of that cop"

I've already said that there are bad/stupid cops that do dumb things/make mistakes. That doesn't mean you need to overhaul the whole system.



[Edited on February 29, 2012 at 3:04 PM. Reason : .]

2/29/2012 3:01:32 PM

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"I've already said that there are bad/stupid cops that do dumb things/make mistakes. That doesn't mean you need to overhaul the whole system."

Well the guy would file a complaint form about said cop, but it turns out there's a problem with the complaint system

[Edited on February 29, 2012 at 3:05 PM. Reason : "]

2/29/2012 3:04:29 PM

i hate that my hometown has overhauled the whole system

http://charmeck.org/city/charlotte/cmpd/pages/reportacrime.aspx

wait a minute, we're not talking about filing police reports! we're talking about complaints against officers!

hey lemme post a video of Layla and then when I reference the mellow guitar part you can be like "what mellow guitar part, i turned that hard rock song off after 2 minutes"


[Edited on February 29, 2012 at 3:08 PM. Reason : v that too]

2/29/2012 3:06:52 PM

http://charmeck.org/city/charlotte/CMPD/Pages/Complaints.aspx

2/29/2012 3:07:47 PM

^ I like the internet A LOT better

2/29/2012 3:09:49 PM

but how do they handle the amount of complaints?? it is a mystery.

2/29/2012 3:13:12 PM

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"Did you watch the clips where he was arrested for trying to walk away because he didn't want to give them his ID? There were a few."

There's a difference between saying something like

"I don't want to provide my name because I have no need to and you have no reason to know it." Or just "No thank you." or whatever.

and



"uhhh.......I don't wanna tell you my last name. Why? Oh, no reason." Then turn, and slowly exit the building without saying anything else. Or "I'm not tryna get into get into stuff like that. Also, I don't have a license." and all the sudden have no care at all about filing the complaint you wanted to file.



Dude was begging for the cops to get suspicious, and they did.

2/29/2012 3:32:14 PM

The only reason they're being pissy is because someone is questioning their authority. End of story. They could just explain that it's against department policy to hand out that kind of shit instead of getting hostile and defensive and the situation would be over.

2/29/2012 3:35:26 PM

^
bingo

2/29/2012 3:36:57 PM

I learned from watching Law & Order that you go directly to IA. Cops hate the fucking IA!!!

2/29/2012 3:40:30 PM

I only watch the first 5 mins of L&O episodes, so I just assumed all killers & rapists get away with it

2/29/2012 3:42:27 PM

It's apparent that the video omitted the beginning of the conversation in every instance.

2/29/2012 3:44:26 PM

[Edited on February 29, 2012 at 3:45 PM. Reason : bleh]

2/29/2012 3:44:37 PM

I feel like maybe 5% of the time they do. It really pisses Sam off when that happens.

2/29/2012 3:44:47 PM

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"It's apparent that the video omitted the beginning of the conversation in every instance. "

you are really stretching your argument to defend shitty cops

2/29/2012 3:51:29 PM

OK, so cops answer the door yelling at guys mid-sentence all over LA, then.

2/29/2012 3:53:21 PM

that seems accurate

2/29/2012 4:17:32 PM

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"that seems accurate"

2/29/2012 6:53:11 PM

Eh...


My last encounter with a cop ended like this:

Me: I was told I could come back now to pick up my property, and I'm here. Now you all are telling me that my property is locked up, and I will have to come back later. When exactly can I come to pick up my property?

Cop: I don't know. Tomorrow maybe. If you don't like it, here's a complaint form that you can fill out. *walks away*





I guess he trusted me enough to fill out the complaint form. Complaint form... not police report.

[Edited on February 29, 2012 at 7:20 PM. Reason : d]

2/29/2012 7:18:19 PM

Man Spends Two Entire Years Trying to File A Complaint Against Raleigh Police

http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/02/27/1887501/apology-is-2-years-in-the-making.html

[Edited on March 6, 2012 at 3:16 AM. Reason : .]

3/6/2012 3:16:33 AM

smc doesn't read the article he just linked and bolds false text

3/6/2012 4:06:01 AM

^^holy shit I'd be pissed. WHERE DA ACLU AT? oh yeh, he's white.

3/6/2012 8:58:33 AM

many of the dumbest among us become cops

people that dream of being cops make shitty overly aggressive cops

people that fall into it as a contingency plan because they can't get other work make shitty overly aggressive cops

fuck all police

3/6/2012 9:50:36 AM

I dream of becoming a cop. I would rule with an iron fist and beat you all with impunity.

I also love donuts.

3/6/2012 11:48:36 AM

How did I miss this gem?

3/20/2012 12:08:30 AM

ITT jbrick83 defends police abusing their ability to intimidate people into not filing a report

3/20/2012 12:16:27 AM

I was serious about the donuts. Love them things...

3/20/2012 1:33:03 AM