ignoring the "who pays for what" part of this (and societal double standards), is Rush equally slutty for taking Viagra?

3/3/2012 2:41:59 PM

the fact that you are talking about him now, whether negative or positive, means rush limbaugh has won


so keep it up, you're doing exactly what he wants you to do

3/3/2012 2:44:11 PM

It amazes me that people actually allow him to make them mad. Oh no someone I don't know said something mean that I don't agree with, I am going to actually let this change my mood.

3/3/2012 3:20:27 PM

it's not so much him saying it as the countless dumbfucks who blindly agree with what he spouts

3/3/2012 3:24:49 PM

kinda like the countless dumbfucks who blindly agreed with what obama was spouting in 2008?

3/3/2012 3:36:27 PM

i loathe willful ignorance regardless of political affiliation.

3/3/2012 3:40:04 PM

How about the 'countless dumfucks' to use your term who bought in to the shovel ready jobs he ran around the country promoting?

http://youtu.be/GyQyPUd8-Ug

Who is the willfully ignorant now?

3/3/2012 3:43:42 PM

umm... I don't like them either. Thanks for agreeing with me though.

3/3/2012 4:12:58 PM

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"it's not so much him saying it as the countless dumbfucks who blindly agree with what he spouts"

This. I have no qualms with the town crazy getting on his soapbox. It just kind of perturbs me that some people seem to agree with his view of "woman who takes birth control to control ovarian cysts = slut."

3/3/2012 5:21:00 PM

Was Prufrock the guy who dated that nasty gutter slut who cheated on him and ended up giving him herpes or something??

I think it was like 7 or 8 years ago when I first joined t-dub and I was like..."man, this website is interesting."

That's all I have to offer itt. Oh, and...

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"Limbaugh is an expert at buying pills."

3/3/2012 5:30:59 PM

I wondered how long it would take before someone resorted to slander to try to silence me.

Now would you care to post something relevant to the discussion or just continue your weak sauce attempt at trolling?

3/3/2012 5:47:44 PM

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"Now would you care to post something relevant to the discussion"

What point are you trying to make, exactly?

3/3/2012 5:56:15 PM

^^^ HAHAHAHAHA

^^ damn, someone just got butthurt

3/3/2012 5:56:41 PM

^^^well since pointing out the flaws in your argument didn't work, I guess someone had to try plan b.

3/3/2012 6:32:31 PM

i didn't see anyone pointing out any flaws in his argument. I just saw people getting mad because he used the word skank, or people talking about him getting herpes.

3/3/2012 6:45:50 PM

Plan B? What are you, a slut?

3/3/2012 6:45:56 PM

Honest question:

If these pills were marketed as pills that help prevent ovarian cysts with a side effect of making you not have babies instead of the other way around, would this conversation even exist?

3/3/2012 6:48:52 PM

if we didn't have massive gov't interference in the health care market, would this conversation even exist?

3/3/2012 6:55:38 PM

If there was really a big enough market for a drug that prevents ovarian cysts, pharmaceutical companies would probably be working on one that doesn't cause stroke.

3/3/2012 7:13:21 PM

What does government intervention have to do with calling women who use birth control sluts?

3/3/2012 7:15:20 PM

He didn't call women who use birth control sluts, he was remarking about this one in particular.

According to Planned Parenthood, sacred lamb of the liberals, birth control costs $15-$50 per month.

When this woman needs $1000 worth of birth control/contraception per year, I think that's a high figure. Why does she need so much contraception?

When this woman wants other people to pay her to have sex, I think we already know of terms for that which apparently get liberal panties in wads.

Where do you guys see this as a viable argument?

[Edited on March 3, 2012 at 7:20 PM. Reason : ]

3/3/2012 7:17:39 PM

3/3/2012 7:28:18 PM

I still don't understand what you mean by "so much contraception." As was stated, more sex != more expensive.

I'm sure women could speak to this better than I can, but even if you take $50/mo as an estimate, and I'm pretty sure some medications can be higher, that's $600/yr. Throw in a doctor's visit or two, and there's another $100 or $200.

That's still a pretty big chunk of money.

3/3/2012 7:34:48 PM

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"Where do you guys see this as a viable argument?"

Haha an argument for what?? Are you just trying to convince us that it's okay to call her a slut because she pays a lot for birth control?

The reason why people resort to calling you names is because it's usually a waste of time to try to debate an irrational bigot.

[Edited on March 3, 2012 at 7:39 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2012 7:39:27 PM

Not to mention that you didn't just confine your trolling to one thread:

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"PrufrockNCSU All American 24322 Posts user info edit post I'm posting [in the "post here if you're horny thread] for Sandra Fluke 3/3/2012 2:27:55 PM"

3/3/2012 7:43:07 PM

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"I'm sure women could speak to this better than I can, but even if you take $50/mo as an estimate, and I'm pretty sure some medications can be higher, that's $600/yr. Throw in a doctor's visit or two, and there's another $100 or $200."

That sounds about right. For something like ovarian cysts she probably was going to the doctor at least every six months to make sure the dosage/type of medicine was working the way the doctors wanted. I had suspected cysts at one time and it was a couple of three month visits to get things figured out.

Looks like I got my showdown

3/3/2012 9:24:46 PM

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2012/03/advertisers-drop-him-limbaugh-doubles-down/49445/

Free market in action.

3/3/2012 9:27:34 PM

Here's the problem in the tangent we're off on now, Ms. Fluke is neither complaining of having ovarian cysts, nor campaigning for women with ovarian cysts.

Instead Ms. Fluke is claiming that she spends $1k per year in birth control/contraception. Even by Planned Parenthood's standards this estimate is exorbitant.

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"The reason why people (adultswim) resorts to calling (me) names is because it's usually a waste of time to try (he's) unable to debate an irrational bigot."

FIFY.

[Edited on March 4, 2012 at 12:31 AM. Reason : ]

3/4/2012 12:20:52 AM

Rush apologized. Pretty weak ass trolling.

3/4/2012 12:26:46 AM

^^ you are extremely pathetic

3/4/2012 12:35:47 AM

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"Fluke's testimony in the hearing was not, as Limbaugh claimed, about the fact that she's "having so much sex she's going broke buying contraceptives." She told the story of her friend who had an ovary removed because the insurance company wouldn't cover the prescription birth control she needed to stop the growth of ovarian cysts."

3/4/2012 12:35:55 AM

Ms Fluke's expectation for free contraption is wrong. If she wants to have sex and not have babies then she can buy her own birth control. Ms Fluke doesn't have, that she admitted, any other issues that would require birth control medication.
Mr Limbaugh's reaction was only wrong because he went overboard and said. "If we are going to pay for your contraceptives and thus pay for you to have sex, we want something. We want you to post the videos online so we can all watch."

The sooner people learn they ain't entitled to shit, the better of they will be.
The only thing gov't does well is fuck stuff up.

3/4/2012 1:23:47 AM

First of all, Rush is trying to troll, or "tweak" the media heads to get more attention to this particular issue of the moment, because he thinks he can help spin it such that it benefits those on the right.

Secondly, he will not take a position on whether people should or shouldnt use birth control and will point out that he thinks all americans should do whatever they want with regards to contraception. His position will be that federal legislation that forces privately held institutions to provide contraceptives in a manner prohibited by their religion is a violation of their rights to freedom of religion. Furthermore, he will state that things of this matter are simply not the intended role of government, and as such, is not a valid use of tax money.

Thirdly, the reason he is pushing this issue now is that recent polls have shown that more people are against abortion than ever before. The left is trying to reframe the debate by using symantics centered around the "Plan B" or "Morning after pill". There is some debate in the medical community whether it works by preventing fertilized eggs from becoming implanted into the wall of the uterus (and is thus a form of contraception) or whether it causes fertilized eggs to detach from the wall of the uterus (and thus is a very early abortion). The goal of the left, is to have taxpayers fund as many abortions as our poor, irresponsible, slut community needs and to do it with your tax money instead of fixing the potholes in your road or fixing the public schools so your kids wont end up at ECU. They want to do this by categorizing condoms, birth control pills, morning after pills, and first trimester abortions all as forms of 'contraception' so that they are covered in full, under Obamacare, for any child old enough to ride their bike to planned parenthood and keep it a secret from their mom.

So if you are a registered voter who doesnt pay taxes, and might want to get an abortion, and might not be able to pay for it, and thinks that other people should have to pick up the tab for you,....vote democrat.

and prepare for Obama to start hurling the word 'contraception' at whoever wins the nomination and for them to start hurling the word 'abortion' back.

3/4/2012 1:53:52 AM

I'm loving Prufrock's rhetoric in this thread. He can't go a single post without saying things like:


the left is going to run some skank

liberal talking points

disdain of liberals

angry liberal politics

liberal panties in wads


I wonder where he learned it. Sounds familiar.

3/4/2012 2:14:17 AM

All women use the same birth control and it all costs the same amount.

Also, Limbaugh is an unfunny version of Colbert.

3/4/2012 3:00:05 AM

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"I wonder where he learned it. Sounds familiar."

Just like all the rhetoric on the opposite side of the fence.
Blah, blah, blah...

Give one good reason why she should free birth control?

3/4/2012 3:18:47 AM

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"If these pills were marketed as pills that help prevent ovarian cysts with a side effect of making you not have babies instead of the other way around, would this conversation even exist?"

This.

And serious question because I don't have the foggiest clue...why is there not a medicine where the main function is preventing ovarian cysts? Or is there, and these bitches just want their birth control. I feel like the whole debate would never have happened if the issue at hand was really just a group of women trying to control ovarian cysts.

Fake Edit: apparently after a quick search, not ovulating (done via birth control) is a way to reduce the possibility of new cysts. Seems like people are just bitching because not ovulating has more than one effect.

3/4/2012 8:31:38 AM

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"Give one good reason why she should free birth control?"

She was never arguing for free birth control, only that it be covered by health insurance like any other prescription drug out there. It's kind of ridiculous how much birth control costs out of pocket in this country considering how cheap it is in places like Korea.

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"why is there not a medicine where the main function is preventing ovarian cysts? "

Because why would pharmaceutical companies waste their R&D dollars creating a drug when there's already drugs out there that do this? They've got better things to do with their time like invent cancer treatments.

[Edited on March 4, 2012 at 8:53 AM. Reason : a]

3/4/2012 8:52:00 AM

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"Because why would pharmaceutical companies waste their R&D dollars creating a drug when there's already drugs out there that do this?"

I guess I just assumed that of the women who need medicine for ovarian cysts that there would at least be a sizable chunk of them who would view not being able to have kids while taking the medicine as a negative rather than positive side effect. It seems like if you want to have kids, but are also at risk for ovarian cysts, that going off the medicine in order to have kids would be pretty risky. I can't imagine that the prospect of getting a problematic cyst during pregnancy is taken lightly.

3/4/2012 9:04:22 AM

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"She was never arguing for free birth control, only that it be covered by health insurance like any other prescription drug out there. It's kind of ridiculous how much birth control costs out of pocket in this country considering how cheap it is in places like Korea."

In one of her first interviews she is quoted as talking about how she reviewed Georgetown’s insurance policy prior to committing to attend. So, she knew what she was getting into and could have picked a different University... you know one that isn't Catholic and isn't against birth control. This is another instance of its ok to attack Christians but don't you dare try to do it to Muslims. That is exactly what her agenda was because she saw that Georgetown didn’t cover contraceptive services and she decided to attend with the express purpose of battling this policy.
Bottomline, she is wrong.

3/4/2012 9:19:20 AM

I'd rather pay for someone's birth control than their baby

3/4/2012 9:36:08 AM

^ I was thinking the same damn thing.

3/4/2012 9:41:46 AM

You shouldn't pay for either one. This isn't a this or that decision.
Its no and no.

[Edited on March 4, 2012 at 9:46 AM. Reason : ]

3/4/2012 9:43:34 AM

I quick read the the title as:

lamborghini is the king of trolls...

3/4/2012 9:44:57 AM

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"I can't imagine that the prospect of getting a problematic cyst during pregnancy is taken lightly."

You won't get cysts while pregnant because you don't ovulate while pregnant.

3/4/2012 10:16:35 AM

Are you making the claim that you can only get ovarian cysts when you ovulate?

Those bad boys are common in post-menopausal women.

3/4/2012 10:20:46 AM

You can be pregnant and have ovarian cysts. It's not uncommon at all and they're routinely found during ultrasounds. I guess it's possible that you may not be developing new ovarian cysts because you're not ovulating, but they don't just stop growing or go away because you're pregnant. Cysts can grow and rupture just like they did before you got pregnant. Sometimes they can even trigger premature labor.

[Edited on March 4, 2012 at 10:29 AM. Reason : .]

3/4/2012 10:28:11 AM

Where I work, I can’t not have health coverage. If I declined coverage, i don’t get that money back in my pay check.

If these other employers are the same way, then it makes perfect sense to require the insurance companies to meet a min. standard of coverage, and there’s no good reason this standard shouldn’t include birth control.

I’m not sure where the 1st amendment comes into play.

Private contracts can’t violate laws (for example, you can’t sign a contract giving someone permission to murder you). It seems that an employer forcing you to sign a contract with them that removes your ability to purchase insurance that doesn’t fully insure you is itself a violation of the first amendment.

There are at least 2 easy solutions to this:
1) the Catholics stop being idiots
2) employers should give you the money to get another plan, if you don’t want their plan

But would the Catholics take this compromise? Because paying for another plan of your choosing is still them paying for BC.

Which brings up the other issue…

Benefits are part of your compensation, this is money they would otherwise give you, but instead are pooling all employees $$$ to increase buying power to get a better rate for something the employees would get anyway. Why should an employer tell an employee how they can spend their money? This is not the employer’s money, it’s the employees. Considering that 98% of Catholics polled says they use birth control, the solution is pretty clear in this case.

3/4/2012 10:38:51 AM

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"2) employers should give you the money to get another plan, if you don’t want their plan"

Some employers & companies already do this.

3/4/2012 10:41:44 AM

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" I guess it's possible that you may not be developing new ovarian cysts because you're not ovulating,"

Yeah that's more what I meant. Any cysts already in place you can't do much about while pregnant but it's highly unlikely you'd have new cysts form because you're not ovulating. At least that's what I've had multiple doctors tell me.

3/4/2012 10:50:55 AM