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"Hey Hey, there are some intelligent posters on GOLO!
eh, who am I kidding, no there aren't."


they're not *all* bad...just like 98% of them

wdprice took a move right out of their playbook trying to turn a non-political issue into a political one.
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"you don't think like i do so i'm gonna call you a lib or a commie"

3/7/2012 1:57:58 PM

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page 2

3/7/2012 1:58:03 PM

settledown
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also, aaronburro is refreshingly coherent and well-reasoned in this thread. I tip my hat to you, sir

3/7/2012 2:00:06 PM

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^^Missed it by that much.

[Edited on March 7, 2012 at 2:00 PM. Reason : ]

3/7/2012 2:00:10 PM

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See this is th exact thing in which I lose faith in humanity. Anyone with a brain realizes this kind of chant is, if not racist, severely lacking in class. I'm not sure what malfunction in the human brain needs to be present to not understand that just because you don't say nigger or spic no one will react.

I don't think anything needs to be done about it per se in this case but if you don't understand the tone of the chant you're a god damned moron.

3/7/2012 2:00:58 PM

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"I'm not sure what malfunction in the human brain needs to be present to not understand that just because you don't say nigger or spic no one will react."


You could just ask wdprice3 what's wrong with him.

3/7/2012 2:01:53 PM

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Ha, Alamo Heights definitely has some minorities (it is a public school) but this doesn't surprise me in the least. The neighborhood that goes to that school has a lot of old money and house prices are ridiculously high just because of the neighborhood.

3/7/2012 2:03:08 PM

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USA! USA! USA!


/racism

3/7/2012 2:05:34 PM

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"USA! USA! USA!


/racism
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we've already covered that son.

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"That's not the complete context of this situation. Nice try at the strawman though"


you're slippin in your old age.

3/7/2012 2:07:24 PM

aaronburro
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you just quoted yourself, dude...

3/7/2012 2:12:14 PM

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3/7/2012 2:13:18 PM

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""this whole PC shit has to stop already""

3/7/2012 2:31:17 PM

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This makes more sense now. The losing school was primarily hispanic population. So, this wasn't so much as racist as it was...uh, anti-national origin.

3/7/2012 2:39:37 PM

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Taken in that context, yes it's not racist. But when you add in the fact that most of the people chanting USA were white, it takes on a pretty racist tone.

It implies that if you're not white you're not American. Probably a little bit nationalist with a sprinkle of racism for good measure.

[Edited on March 7, 2012 at 2:42 PM. Reason : ]

3/7/2012 2:41:31 PM

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Even if they're chanting "USA USA USA" because of patriotism, it's not technically correct because the other high school students are also Americans, even if they're minorities. If you see nothing wrong with this then it means you see nothing wrong with considering minorities to be less American than whites, which is racist.

3/7/2012 2:45:09 PM

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^^^ so you've completely changed your position?

did you not read the article before you posted it?

3/7/2012 2:47:43 PM

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I'll be honest, I assumed that the "minority" team was black. And, in that context, it would have made no sense. The article doesn't mention what race or national origin the opposing team was.

But yeah brah, you got me! Nice work. I didn't really take a position with the original post, though. I just didn't understand.

[Edited on March 7, 2012 at 2:51 PM. Reason : ]

3/7/2012 2:50:54 PM

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So the next time we play against the Toronto Maple Leafs if I start chanting "USA USA USA", am I racist too?

3/7/2012 2:54:34 PM

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no, but if you comment about how their mouths aren't connected to the rest of their heads, you most certainly are a racist

3/7/2012 2:55:15 PM

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If you see nothing wrong with this then it means you see nothing wrong with considering minorities non-Germans to be less American superior than whites, which is racist.




3/7/2012 2:55:25 PM

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"So the next time we play against the Toronto Maple Leafs if I start chanting "USA USA USA", am I racist too?"


yep. exact same scenario.

3/7/2012 2:55:58 PM

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^^

>defining citizenship based on race
>citizenship based on race
>based on race
>race

racism.

3/7/2012 3:01:50 PM

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not so much. racism comes into play when there is a belief of superiority/inferiority that is based on race. Something simply being based on race is not necessarily racism.

3/7/2012 3:07:36 PM

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In a technical term, yes it is. In popular usage, it is not. Depends on who your audience is as to how much either one makes sense.

3/7/2012 3:13:56 PM

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I'm sure chants at sporting events are done to show belief of superiority/inferiority?

Either way, none of the officials called it racist, they just called it racially inflammatory or something. The only person who called it racist was the reporter. The school officials did the right thing. There's trashtalking all the time in pro sports and that's fine and just adds to the entertainment, but schools should teach respect and good sportsmanship, so that's why the administration did what they did. maybe banning the kids from all games was a bit harsh, but I was just confused why some people thought the school admin was wrong in punishing the students period.

3/7/2012 3:14:14 PM

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Am I a racist for lamenting how you white people stole our land after killing off 90% of my people with your European diseases?

3/7/2012 3:14:38 PM

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they banned the kids from seeing games, where maybe they could have learned a little sensitivity or humility. instead of sending the kids to some week long diversity session *giggle*, they banned them from going to games, which just has the net effect of making the students be more resentful towards people who are different from them

^ nah, you're just a sore loser

[Edited on March 7, 2012 at 3:16 PM. Reason : ]

3/7/2012 3:16:18 PM

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It's harsh, but hopefully they learn a lesson in addition to their resentment.

3/7/2012 3:18:13 PM

aaronburro
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nah. they'll just be resentful.

3/7/2012 3:18:55 PM

HockeyRoman
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Haha. Aww. I suppose I'll just relegate myself to living in amongst my trees on my mountain until more white folks come along and decide to blow it up for whatever minerals may be inside.

3/7/2012 3:19:47 PM

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The most surprising thing to me is that a basketball team made of mostly white players won a game in convincing fashion

ah fuck, that was a racist comment

3/7/2012 3:24:35 PM

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What the fuck. Dealing with sensitive people used to be easy.


You say "Deal with it" and walk away.


Not it seems that everyone is sensitive and you have to cater to anyone that cries.

[Edited on March 7, 2012 at 3:26 PM. Reason : .]

3/7/2012 3:25:54 PM

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Instead of that national debt meter, I need to come up with a website that showcases our percent pussification complete meter. The only problem is that the pussification is off the charts.

3/7/2012 3:27:35 PM

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Public Enemy #1

3/7/2012 3:37:06 PM

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Man, I should have read that article better. So most of the kids that go to that school that lost are of Mexican decent? I can definitely see how that is wrong and racist in nature. It is also sad that it happened once before with two other schools.

3/7/2012 4:27:13 PM

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It's their own fault for not integrating faster to American culture.

They really should be viewing the chants as something to aspire to. What's more inspirational than to know you can one day be part of a mob of Americans being racially insensitive?

3/7/2012 6:13:57 PM

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If I was part of the losing team, I would have joined in on the chanting. Anyone can chant USA.


Also, poor latinos

[Edited on March 7, 2012 at 6:30 PM. Reason : .]

3/7/2012 6:26:21 PM

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See, I started off in this thread playing devil's advocate to try and get people to see another viewpoint"

Bullshit, you really do believe its racist because you aren't secure with who you are.
We are in America and chanting USA is not racist. We chant USA at the Olympics... racist? Fuck no.
What does an American look like? Americans look like anyone; we are white, black, asian, latino, persian, indian, pacific islander and everything in between. These kids were happy that their team won and chanted something that no one should have been offended by.

This this is result of white man's guilt, the coach and school officials are white, and their left leaning attitudes. Then there is the media perpetuation and promulgation of this shit. There are a lot of vocal minorities , squeaky wheels, that are making mountains out of molehills. The rest of us, the silent majority, need to grow some cajones and tell these people to shut the fuck up.

So, El Nacho, shut the fuck up and go get me some more queso. Did I offend you? Too bad.

3/7/2012 7:06:07 PM

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If they are on US soil, you can say whatever the fuck they want*







*based on obsolete law called the first amendment

[Edited on March 7, 2012 at 7:07 PM. Reason : .]

3/7/2012 7:06:42 PM

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"We are in America and chanting USA is not racist. We chant USA at the Olympics... racist? Fuck no. "

yyyyeeeeeeaaahhhh. but when we're in the olympics, we're not chanting USA USA USA to be an insult to other people who happen to look different than us.

3/7/2012 8:40:14 PM

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Neither were these students.
STFU and stop trying to make something out of nothing.

[Edited on March 7, 2012 at 8:49 PM. Reason : ]

3/7/2012 8:49:05 PM

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ummm. they were all white. in a high school basketball game. chanting USA USA USA at a bunch of hispanic people from a high school 4 miles down the road. what the fuck would YOU call it? I can't ever recall even wanting to chant USA USA USA at a high school sports game. Olympics it makes sense, you're talking about countries there. A team from across town in the same fucking country? Get out of here

3/7/2012 8:51:24 PM

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OMG! You are so right! holy shit!

Yer an idiot.

3/7/2012 8:57:52 PM

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So they were chanting USA at another group of Americans. How is that racist?

3/7/2012 8:59:19 PM

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i wouldn't say it's racist, though others might disagree. but it was certainly meant as an insult. A group of entirely white people, at a high school basketball game with a school 4 miles away in America, chanting USA USA USA at a group of hispanic players. You tell me what the intent of chanting USA USA USA was. You tell me why a chant of national origin would come into play at a high school basketball game where both teams are from the same country. You tell me what a chant would be done by whites towards hispanics, in Texas. Give me an alternative explanation to "they were doing it to be insulting"

[Edited on March 7, 2012 at 9:05 PM. Reason : ]

3/7/2012 9:04:33 PM

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remember this bullshit? message_topic.aspx?topic=594348

the pussification of america

3/7/2012 9:07:33 PM

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^^Sees what is not there.

3/7/2012 9:53:25 PM

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^ ignores what is obvious

3/7/2012 9:55:09 PM

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ok. then tell me what was there. what was meant by a bunch of white high school kids chanting USA USA USA at another US high school at a basketball game, when the other school is populated primarily by hispanics. If there is a rational alternative, why don't you tell us what it is. Surely if it's so obvious to you, you can tell me what they were trying to accomplish

3/7/2012 9:56:44 PM

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To welcome them to the USA with open arms?

3/7/2012 9:58:09 PM

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