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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXZ0iyQjTAc

3/12/2012 12:51:45 AM

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haha, SDSU hasn't accomplished shit and they got a music video...

Love the egos, let's crush them.

3/12/2012 12:57:25 AM

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San Diego State lives off points inside the arc. I doubt they get those against us.

They don't shoot threes at all. That's our main weakness defensively.

Defensively they are horrid.

They are hopelessly short and have zero depth.

I like NC State vs the spread. This has all the makings of a 30+ point game that might only be a 15 point spread.

3/12/2012 12:59:51 AM

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that playing time for them will be a big deal.

would be like getting up at 6 am to play a morning game.

3/12/2012 1:02:51 AM

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we're at -1.5

i say it's time to drop your life savings

3/12/2012 1:03:20 AM

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3/12/2012 1:10:00 AM

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you don't fuck with tradition.

3/12/2012 1:21:23 AM

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you do not.

also can you downsize that image?

3/12/2012 1:22:24 AM

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Pre-Game Opponent Analysis:

Offense:

- Not a good perimeter shooting team
- Not a good O-rebounding team
- Not very good at taking care of the ball
- Poor at getting points at the line


How that matches up with us:

- Do not guard 3's effectively
- Average D-rebounding team
- Terrible at forcing turnovers
- Give up a decent amount of points at the line


Advantage: Slight advantage NCSU. While NCSU defense is thoroughly unimpressive they compile their stats for the most part against tournament level competition where SDSU plays a wider scale of opponents.


Opponents Defense:

- Guards the perimeter effectively
- A terrific defensive rebounding team
- Does not force turnovers
- Does not give up many points at the line


How that matches up with us:

- Does not score many points from the perimeter
- A very good offensive rebounding team
- Does not turn the ball over excessively
- Does not get a lot of points at the line


Advantage: Slight advantage NCSU because the offense is proficient at scoring inside and on transition and has a very high assist rate.


Other factors:

Pace: NCSU plays slightly more up-tempo but no major difference

Size: NCSU typically plays bigger lineups than SDSU but does not sacrifice much quickness or athleticism

Experience: Negligible

Bench: Slightly more depth for SDSU

Location: Slightly less travel and time issues for NCSU

Recent play: Advantage NCSU



Line NCSU -1.5 as of 3/12 1:00 AM on scoresandodds (damn i nailed this prediction earlier).


My prediction: 72-67 NCSU. Not the prettiest of games as early games never are. I think the key factors will be our size/athleticism hurting them on the glass and their turnovers becoming easy transition points for us. My main concerns would be our achilles hooves of giving up wide open, uncontested 3-pointers (like always), foul trouble (like always), inconsistent perimeter shooting (like always), and missing FT's (like lately).

3/12/2012 1:23:46 AM

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"achilles hooves"


brilliant

3/12/2012 1:26:18 AM

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I won't be able to watch it during its regularly scheduled broadcast.

What's the chances I can DVR it, avoid all scores and updates, and watch it later?

3/12/2012 5:51:02 AM

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^ 0%

i tried with the UVA game. I'd rather just constantly check updates than watch a recording. Any recording, I fast forward during commercials and slow bits and then it doesn't feel like a real game anymore.

3/12/2012 7:35:12 AM

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not sure if this has been posted anywhere...but start at about the 2:45 mark and watch san diego state see the wolfpack's name called

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHsPrBeUF60&feature=related


one more vid w/ the reaction:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZjTPOOm3Ow&feature=related

[Edited on March 12, 2012 at 9:42 AM. Reason : asdf]

3/12/2012 9:37:19 AM

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Whale Vaginas

3/12/2012 9:42:28 AM

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Reaction to NCSU doesn't start until about 3:50 mark with "Oh shit"

3/12/2012 9:44:24 AM

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listening to mike and mike this morning, they had Fran Fraschilla talking brackets and best upsets in the field, and they talked a bit about NC State, and called it nearly a sure thing. Fran said we're playing as well as anyone in the country right now and went to the wire with UNC and were the victims of a couple of really bad calls. (this is all paraphrased).

3/12/2012 9:48:50 AM

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I like the recognition, but we always seem to lose games we're "supposed" to win. ESPN talking heads were saying the same thing about us last night, and it always makes me nervous.

3/12/2012 9:50:54 AM

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one of their players called us "NC double A State"

3/12/2012 9:51:54 AM

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woot, so I have gotten a long lunch approved. Where to watch in the Capital/Highwoods/possibly downtown area?

3/12/2012 10:14:44 AM

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^^

no doubt, the fact that I haven't heard anyone pick SDSU scares the shit out of me.

3/12/2012 10:20:24 AM

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I plan on getting absolutely hammered on Friday. Haven't done that in a while.

3/12/2012 10:25:16 AM

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"they talked a bit about NC State, and called it nearly a sure thing. "


Shit.

3/12/2012 10:36:59 AM

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^

3/12/2012 10:41:49 AM

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Watching that selection sunday video of sdsu, they look scared to hell of the wolfpack

+1 for the psychological advantage cause you know our boys ain't scared of shit

+1 for making a west-coast team play at 12:40 pm in the eastern time zone, they are going to be lethargic as fuck for the start of the game

3/12/2012 10:42:48 AM

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watching them react gave me too much confidence. So much that I am actually starting to lose confidence...

3/12/2012 10:44:29 AM

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^well said. That's exactly how i feel right now. But I have to say it's just awesome to be viewing an NCSU Basketball game thread at this point in March.

3/12/2012 10:46:43 AM

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Well, I think any team, any year, would have the same reaction to us. We are the wildcard. You never know how State is going to play (historically), and that's what makes us both a threat, and a beatable opponent. This game isn't near a lock, but I think any team would be leery to stand up against us either.

3/12/2012 10:53:42 AM

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in the N.C. State breakdown:

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"Did You Know? After VCU's Shaka Smart and Wichita State's Gregg Marshall said no, NC State AD Debbie Yow hired Gottfried, an old friend from their days together at Oral Roberts. "



http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/tournament/2012/story/_/page/2012-ncaa-bracket-projections-north-carolina-state-wolfpack

3/12/2012 11:13:14 AM

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Post the whole article please. We don't have that insider shit.

3/12/2012 11:15:27 AM

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TEAM DATA

Points per game: 73
Points allowed: 68
Scoring margin: +5
FG percentage: .463
FG allowed: .418
3PT percentage: .355
3PT allowed: .338
3PT-to-FG attempts: .261
FT percentage: .708
FT totals: 499/705
Rebound margin: +1.2
Turnover margin: +1.0
Assist-to-turnover ratio: 1.25:1
Assist-to-FG ratio: 0.6:1

NC STATE SCOUTING REPORT

Offensive Preference

The Wolfpack are the epitome of balance, with all five starters averaging in double figures. Four are 15-feet-and-in scorers, with the lone exception being 6-foot-6 junior Scott Wood, who possesses anywhere-in-the-gym range. Quick-twitch sophomore forward C.J. Leslie is a matchup nightmare for most college big men.

Defensive Philosophy

NC State's primary defense is man-to-man. When opponents have success off the dribble, Wolfpack coach Mark Gottfried will mix in some 2-3 zone. NC State is much better on the defensive backboards this season.

Secret Strength

Led by budding star Lorenzo Brown (6.3 apg), the Wolfpack value each possession in an effort to get more shots over 40 minutes than the competition. The emphasis of heady decision-making has paid dividends, as NC State was second in the ACC in assist-to-turnover ratio (1.3-to-1).

Achilles' Heel

Wood is NC State's only shoot-from-deep threat, so foes plan to stop him. When he's off, as he was in a four-game slump in losses to Duke, Florida State, UNC and Clemson, the Wolfpack look ordinary. When he's on, look out!

Will Lose When ...

The Wolfpack's ordinary D is less than average, or when Wood clanks too many 3-balls.

Famous Last Words

NC State won't be awed by the NCAA tournament stage. Gottfried can X-and-O with the best of them, Leslie is a future pro (maybe even a 2012 NBA draft early entrant), and this team has cut its teeth against Syracuse, Indiana, Vanderbilt, Texas and Stanford, in addition to its ACC slate.

THE PLAYERS

Starters

1

Lorenzo Brown
(6-5, 186 pounds, SO)

33.7 mpg
12.5 ppg, 6.3 apg
4.3 rpg
.297 3PT
Comment: Recruited to play 2-guard, Brown has proved to be an under-control orchestrator of the offense. Height allows him to pass/shoot over most opposing point guards. Third-team All-ACC as a sophomore, and still has room to grow.

2

C.J. Williams
(6-5, 224 pounds, SR)

31.2 mpg
11.0 ppg, 3.9 rpg
.813 FT
1.3 tpg

Comment: A fractured bone in his left thumb and sprained left shoulder haven't kept Williams from stepping up his game. Tripled his career average in minutes in 2011-12 and significantly upped his scoring average. Wolfpack's best wing defender.

3

Scott Wood
(6-6, 175 pounds, JR)

32.7 mpg
12.9 ppg, 2.3 rpg
.422 3PT
.434 FG

Comment: Indiana native is right out of Hoosiers hoops central casting -- a fundamentally sound gym rat who is the team's best 3-point marksman. When he's on, Wood is one of the top five long-distance dialers in the college game.

4

C.J. Leslie
(6-8, 209 pounds, SO)

28.7 mpg
14.2 ppg, 7.3 rpg
1.7 bpg
2.3 tpg

Comment: Has an NBA body and skills and now has a coach in Gottfried (who calls him by his given name, Calvin, and expects maximum effort all the time) to drive him to greatness. His perimeter shot still needs work, but Leslie is too fleet and springy for most opposing 4-men.

5

Richard Howell
(6-8, 250 pounds, JR)

26.8 mpg
10.8 ppg, 9.3 rpg
.500 FG
.638 FT

Comment: Went from doughy to more ripped in 2012. Transformed his play, as well, and is now a night-in, night-out double threat. Fouled out of five ACC regular-season games, so he needs to stay on the court.

Rotation

C

DeShawn Painter
(6-9, 231 pounds, JR)

20.0 mpg
6.5 ppg, 4.4 rpg
.731 FT
.426 FG

Comment: Made strides forward in 2012 and no longer looks like the timid big man whose playing time dwindled to almost nothing last winter.

G

Alex Johnson
(5-10, 176 pounds, GRAD)

19.7 mpg
4.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg
.756 FT
.346 FG

Comment: Cal State-Bakersfield grad transferred to NC State and took advantage of NCAA rule allowing grad students to play immediately. Moped briefly after going from 13.3-ppg scorer at Bakersfield to a backup Pack point guard, but now feels blessed to be in ACC and contributing to an NCAA tourney team.

F

Tyler Harris
(6-8, 203 pounds, FR)

7.8 mpg
2.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg
.700 FT
.382 FG

Comment: Harris figures to be one of the ACC's breakout players in 2012-13. Has NBA genes (his brother Tobias, a former Tennessee Vol, is now a Milwaukee Buck) and guards a future pro in practice every day in Leslie.

SEASON NOTES

High point

A 15-16 team in 2010-11, NC State won 20-plus games and earned a trip to the Big Dance under first-year head coach Gottfried.

Lowlight

As if a four-game February losing streak to Duke, Florida State, North Carolina and Clemson wasn't bad enough, the Feb. 21 loss to North Carolina included the ejection of two former NC State greats, Tom Gugliotta and Chris Corchiani, by referee Karl Hess.

Most Revealing Moment

The Wolfpack snapped out their February funk with a Leap Day win over "The U," then strung together a mini-winning streak to sew up a spot in the field of 68.

Did You Know?

After VCU's Shaka Smart and Wichita State's Gregg Marshall said no, NC State AD Debbie Yow hired Gottfried, an old friend from their days together at Oral Roberts.

[Edited on March 12, 2012 at 11:24 AM. Reason : k]

3/12/2012 11:20:12 AM

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"the Feb. 21 loss to North Carolina included the ejection of two former NC State greats, Tom Gugliotta and Chris Corchiani, by referee Karl Hess."

3/12/2012 11:24:07 AM

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"we always seem to lose games we're "supposed" to win."

we've done that how many times under gottfried? two?

get the fuck over whatever it is dude.

3/12/2012 11:27:05 AM

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"Comment: Harris figures to be one of the ACC's breakout players in 2012-13. Has NBA genes (his brother Tobias, a former Tennessee Vol, is now a Milwaukee Buck) and guards a future pro in practice every day in Leslie."


What a positive write-up on Harris. Pretty funny.

3/12/2012 11:31:52 AM

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"we've done that how many times under gottfried? two?

get the fuck over whatever it is dude."


1. I'm not a dude.
2. Context clues will help with your reading comprehension. I specifically mentioned that as a team, we have a history of doing that, and that any year, any team should be hesitant to meet up with us, because we're a wild card. Nowhere did I mention Gottfried, so get off your high horse and think before you post.

3/12/2012 11:37:32 AM

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"Watching that selection sunday video of sdsu, they look scared to hell of the wolfpack"


no, they don't, and making a thing out of those reaction videos is pretty foolish.

3/12/2012 11:38:43 AM

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Tim Brando, Mike Gminski and Otis Livingston are doing our game.

3/12/2012 11:39:43 AM

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Other than the Corch and Googs thing, that's pretty dead-on ... even if Harris was given too much love.

Can anyone post the SDSU team breakdown?

3/12/2012 11:39:54 AM

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This game will be played at Nationwide Arena near Nationwide's corporate office, on my 1 year anniversary of employment at Nationwide, while I will be in a conference room with all the folks that left Columbus to come to Raleigh to hear my presentation. Here's to hoping we wrap up early - I know I'll be trying to talk fast while I'm up there! Questions? No? Good. Bya!

[Edited on March 12, 2012 at 11:50 AM. Reason : yay]

3/12/2012 11:46:59 AM

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LOL at Gregg Marshall telling us "no". More like NC State said no to a dude that wanted to fellate on Carolina and Duke.


While I like this matchup for State, it reminds me some of the State-Clemson matchup in that Clemson like SDSU is led by a score first guard, some athletic, but not huge inside guys, and they play solid defense.

We should have been able to pull away from Clemson with both Howell and Leslie getting plenty of burn, but we choked the game away with horrible perimeter defense and poor FT shooting. Let's hope we learned something from that game and that our guys are ready to play 40 minutes on Friday.

3/12/2012 11:49:37 AM

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^^Is Dennis Haysbert going to be there? If so, I'd feel like we were In Good Hands.

[Edited on March 12, 2012 at 11:56 AM. Reason : .]

3/12/2012 11:49:42 AM

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3/12/2012 12:08:04 PM

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"a fundamentally sound gym rat"


That's raycess!!!

3/12/2012 12:14:01 PM

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nvm. oops.

[Edited on March 12, 2012 at 12:30 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2012 12:29:55 PM

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Plz2work on FTs!

Scott Wood either make Threes or do two of these things rebound, pass, steals/play hard d, get fouled on drives and make free throws, make that down screen turn around at the FT line.

3/12/2012 12:48:02 PM

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No, Dennis Haysbert will not be there....

3/12/2012 12:48:24 PM

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Bahahahahahahaha

3/12/2012 12:55:38 PM

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"a fundamentally sound gym rat"




[Edited on March 12, 2012 at 1:26 PM. Reason : ]

3/12/2012 1:24:01 PM

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"What's the chances I can DVR it, avoid all scores and updates, and watch it later?"


I actually pulled it off for the UVA game. It definitely gives the game a weird feel to fast forward through commercials and timeouts. The stress of trying not to accidentally hear or see the score is almost unbearable though. It also has the unfortunate side effect of making you an insufferable cunt to everyone around you.

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3/12/2012 1:32:20 PM

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Was about to say, I found it hilarious that they said that

3/12/2012 2:34:39 PM

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It looks like the team was listening to the selection show at The Renaissance Hotel in Mobile, Alabama, where many presidents once stayed.

3/12/2012 3:12:04 PM

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