Did they check her chromosomes or did she just have a penis?

3/27/2012 9:10:40 AM

that article just said she was in the finals in a transgender Miss Universe contest in Thailand in 2010

3/27/2012 9:25:52 AM

GeniuSxBoy you know you could have avoided all this hemming and hawing to avoid admitting you were dead wrong, if you had just spent 15 seconds googling "miss universe plastic surgery rules" before making your first post.

3/27/2012 9:37:55 AM

Quote :

"http://www.thestar.com/living/article/1152370--transgendered-contestant-s-ouster-from-miss-universe-canada-sparks-outrage-over-natural-born-rule "

Oh this is absolutely ridiculous

3/27/2012 12:48:11 PM

This is so beatup...they should have let her stay in the contest. Stupid shit.

3/27/2012 1:09:46 PM

Like I said the rules are wrong, I'm not wrong.

3/27/2012 1:52:01 PM

^
Nah, you were wrong when you said this:

Quote :

"The rules state they have to be a natural woman."

The rest of what you said is just your opinion.

3/27/2012 1:54:18 PM

That's what the rules should state.

3/27/2012 1:55:53 PM

Would people be raising the same fuss if a guy had a sex change and was banned from women's athletics? Probably not.

She's a he. Disqualified. Move on.

3/27/2012 2:05:43 PM

Quote :

"Would people be raising the same fuss if a guy had a sex change and was banned from women's athletics? Probably not. She's a he. Disqualified. Move on. "

apples and oranges

3/27/2012 2:12:43 PM

dude should be allowed to compete

but it should be known that the contestant used to be a dude, to be fair

3/27/2012 2:14:09 PM

apples and oranges my ass

3/27/2012 2:49:17 PM

this is like that golfer who wanted to use a golf cart in PGA events and couldn't

the penis is a crutch in this case

3/27/2012 2:53:08 PM

What an ugly man

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3/27/2012 2:53:26 PM

I think he's beautiful.

3/27/2012 2:56:25 PM

Well you are gay because that is a dude

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3/27/2012 2:57:01 PM

I guess I am

3/27/2012 2:57:27 PM

Women just don't do it for me anymore

3/27/2012 3:01:29 PM

You have that bookmarked?

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3/27/2012 3:03:01 PM

wow she has great legs!

3/27/2012 3:39:17 PM

Quote :

"Would people be raising the same fuss if a guy had a sex change and was banned from women's athletics? Probably not. She's a he. Disqualified. Move on."

but being biologically male gives you an advantage in that case.

in this case we're talking about gender. this person's gender is female.

3/27/2012 3:39:45 PM

i mean maybe as a male you could hold your pose better and also you dont hold water weight like women do

that is a very unfair advantage when it comes to ideal weight for wearing the dresses and swimsuit

why dont the gay and confused community just start their own "miss faggot dick havin tranny" competition and leave the rest of us the hell alone



[Edited on March 27, 2012 at 4:51 PM. Reason : c]

3/27/2012 4:49:32 PM

fuck it, let her compete

as long as everyone knows she has a y chromosome, no big deal, right?

3/27/2012 4:53:07 PM

lets let everybody do everything


we are all equal

[Edited on March 27, 2012 at 4:54 PM. Reason : f]

3/27/2012 4:53:51 PM

I don't have a problem with that.

3/27/2012 4:57:46 PM

Quote :

"why dont the gay and confused community just start their own "miss faggot dick havin tranny" competition and leave the rest of us the hell alone"

i don't think she's confused. she has a vagina and boobs. obviously her gender is "female"

3/27/2012 5:01:16 PM

excuse me?

3/27/2012 5:03:25 PM

I thought sex was determined by the presence or absence of a Y chromosome?

3/27/2012 5:05:04 PM

Quote :

""Sex" refers to the biological and physiological characteristics that define men and women. "Gender" refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, activities, and attributes that a given society considers appropriate for men and women."

3/27/2012 5:05:12 PM

lol thats such bullshit come on

3/27/2012 5:06:41 PM

Quote :

"lets let everybody do everything we are all equal"

some animals are more equal.

3/27/2012 5:06:58 PM

Quote :

"lol thats such bullshit come on"

do you struggle with the fact that you were born a man? do you feel like you should be a woman?

i don't

3/27/2012 5:10:10 PM

im saying if you are born with implements and producing the hormones that dictate growth and development then you are that gender sex whatever

throw a fucking dress on and chop your shit off all you want

do what you do thats cool but dont think you are all of a sudden entitled to compete in events and/or sports intended for the opposite sex

[Edited on March 27, 2012 at 5:15 PM. Reason : e]

3/27/2012 5:12:54 PM

Quote :

"im saying if you are born with implements and producing the hormones that dictate growth and development then you are that gender sex whatever"

well you're wrong. we don't consciously choose our gender. we don't consciously choose our sexual orientation

to say otherwise is massively ignorant and disrespectful.

[Edited on March 27, 2012 at 5:21 PM. Reason : .]

3/27/2012 5:20:28 PM

im done listening to this liberal rubbish

3/27/2012 5:21:42 PM

haha if you don't choose to be a heterosexual male, why would you assume people choose to be gay or transgendered?

3/27/2012 5:23:51 PM

this is devolving into the ole choice thing again

all im saying is this man had no right competing against women

3/27/2012 5:24:50 PM

maybe they did feel ill at ease with their gender but decided to to explore because its "wrong"

[Edited on March 27, 2012 at 5:26 PM. Reason : eh, all women are free to get as much surgery as she did]

3/27/2012 5:25:44 PM

falsifying an application pretty much will get you kicked out of any contest or job

3/27/2012 5:26:30 PM

Quote :

"this is devolving into the ole choice thing again"

this wouldn't happen if you would rectify your cognitive dissonance

Quote :

"falsifying an application pretty much will get you kicked out of any contest or job"

she didn't lie. she was born a female (by gender)

[Edited on March 27, 2012 at 5:29 PM. Reason : .]

3/27/2012 5:28:31 PM

Quote :

"Her foray into international beauty pageants began in 2010 when she represented Canada at Miss International Queen, a transsexual beauty pageant held in Thailand. She was named a finalist."

keep telling yourself that

3/27/2012 5:45:19 PM

I was born a dolphin.

3/27/2012 5:55:14 PM

3/27/2012 6:39:00 PM

I see no different in this than a dude getting a sex change and deciding he wants to play in the WNBA, which I feel is intrinsically wrong (well actually the WNBA itself is intrinsically wrong). You have to draw the line somewhere.

3/27/2012 7:11:06 PM

^ they actually made a factual documentary about that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juwanna_Mann

3/27/2012 8:00:15 PM

Miss Universe, not Miss Cisgender

3/27/2012 8:22:00 PM

Pregnant man, the gender lines are getting really blurred.



[Edited on March 27, 2012 at 8:38 PM. Reason : .]

3/27/2012 8:26:42 PM

if by pregnant man you mean pregnant woman who got her boobs chopped off, then yes.

3/27/2012 8:53:15 PM

Quote :

"His mama named him Clay. I'ma call him Clay."

3/27/2012 8:58:54 PM

^^damn, i thought that man really got pregnant. thanks for uncovering the mystery...

3/27/2012 9:10:10 PM