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Bweez
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that is a newspaper

a show depicting a major television news organization covering the spill like this is a re-envisioning

7/2/2012 9:45:29 PM

armorfrsleep
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/the-spill/

Frontline did a terrific job of it, but I guess PBS doesn't count as a major news organization at this point.

7/2/2012 10:03:00 PM

Last Child
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^ Frontline isn't a breaking news show that pulled all that together the day of.

7/2/2012 10:14:10 PM

armorfrsleep
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Right, because that would have been impossible without a ridiculous plot contrivance. The point isn't that some news organizations covered it in the exact same time period as on the show, it's that some news organizations did a great job covering the story in exactly the spirit the show espouses just over a longer period of time.

7/2/2012 10:34:29 PM

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"The Maggie character is just way over-the-top. I'm not sure if that's how she's written or the problem is the actress, but holy hell is she annoying and impossible to believe as a character.

Also, she appears to be suffering from fetal alcohol syndrome."


I thought this as well. She comes off as a spaz and an idiot and I'm failing to see why Jim Harper has an interest in her.

How about Olivia Munn's fine ass?

7/3/2012 8:14:32 AM

Last Child
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Also the whole sending an email to Jeff Daniels that everyone received was predictable and dumb. She did it twice! Why not just wait until he returns and tell him that in person. I want to like the show and enjoyed the first episode but don't know if I can keep watching if the whole season is more like episode 2. Does anyone else feel like they are watching a network show? Doesn't really have a HBO feel to it. Even the opening credits with the actors name shown with their face seems like network tv.

7/3/2012 9:05:25 AM

Bweez
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"Right, because that would have been impossible without a ridiculous plot contrivance. The point isn't that some news organizations covered it in the exact same time period as on the show, it's that some news organizations did a great job covering the story in exactly the spirit the show espouses just over a longer period of time.
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The show condensed these things to a shorter period of time and dramatized them, making it a re-envisioning rather than a re-visiting, you seem like you are arguing with and agreeing with my original point i'm confused now

[Edited on July 3, 2012 at 11:52 AM. Reason : v]

7/3/2012 11:52:21 AM

Wyloch
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That was Jesse Eisenberg as the fledgling BP engineer on the phone, right?

7/3/2012 12:33:33 PM

Bweez
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yep

7/3/2012 12:44:50 PM

AndyMac
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I'm late on this point, but the speech rubbed me the wrong way because of his adressing the student as the worst generation ever, when it was his own generation that has fucked things up so much.

Also his speech was totally erroneous, we lead the world in all kinds of things just because of our size.

[Edited on July 3, 2012 at 1:18 PM. Reason : ]

7/3/2012 1:17:31 PM

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"Also his speech was totally erroneous, we lead the world in all kinds of things just because of our size."


What?

7/3/2012 3:32:20 PM

AndyMac
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Things like Nobel Prize winners
World class universities
Fortune 500 companies
GDP
Published scientific papers
and dozens of other things.

7/3/2012 5:15:50 PM

Prawn Star
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NUMBER OF THERMONUCLEAR WARHEADS

BITCHES

7/3/2012 7:46:21 PM

Jeepin4x4
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Maggie is weirdly attractive in Goon. And lol she's engaged to Jay Baruchel

7/5/2012 9:33:35 PM

TKE-Teg
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Since when does size matter?

7/6/2012 8:34:01 AM

Elwood
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It's not the size of the country it the motion of the ocean.

7/6/2012 2:47:07 PM

Wyloch
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Great tv

7/8/2012 10:59:19 PM

elduderino
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+ =


"this shit's so easy"

7/9/2012 12:45:51 AM

screentest
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The Wire

7/9/2012 1:08:28 AM

HCH
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The best part of this show is Michael Ian Black's twitter page. Just a sampling:

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""I'll stop digging for the truth once they stop burying it" ?#possiblenewsroomdialogue"


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""Democrats? Republicans? Just fancy names for puppets. We find out who's pulling the strings." ?#possiblenewsroomdialogue"


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""I was proud of you tonight, Will. We made the right call." "Sometimes the news is what you don't report." #possiblenewsroomdialogue"


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""Our job isn't telling the truth." "What is it?" "Telling the facts. History decides whether it was the truth." #possiblenewsroomdialogue"

7/9/2012 10:25:40 AM

ncsuapex
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Anything other than Will talking is painful to watch.

7/9/2012 7:48:49 PM

ComputerGuy
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SO LIBERAL

7/9/2012 8:34:28 PM

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"Also his speech was totally erroneous"


Really. Do tell. Which numbers were incorrect?

7/9/2012 9:38:01 PM

AndyMac
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^ I've already said. The number 3, from the statement:

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"We lead the world in only three categories"


Shit even one of the three categories is suspect. Belief in angels is pretty much required for muslims, what nations are included in this survey?

[Edited on July 10, 2012 at 1:10 AM. Reason : ]

7/10/2012 1:03:59 AM

Prawn Star
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Dramatic scene from episode 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7BmJM_9RUM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Jeff Daniels is really carrying this show.

7/10/2012 9:39:25 AM

saps852
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this show just keeps getting better

[Edited on July 15, 2012 at 11:48 PM. Reason : althought the whole bigfoot thing was a little over the top]

7/15/2012 11:47:30 PM

armorfrsleep
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Keeps getting better? The second and third episodes were significantly shittier than the pilot. Maybe they reversed the trend tonight but I doubt it.

7/16/2012 12:21:00 AM

moron
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Tonight's episode was the first i've seen, but i was really impressed.

It'd be awesome if our actual news agencies showed this type of passion for quality reporting.

7/16/2012 1:01:36 AM

Prawn Star
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Tonight's episode was painfully bad.

7/16/2012 1:02:39 AM

tommy wiseau
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"Keeps getting better? The second and third episodes were significantly shittier than the pilot. Maybe they reversed the trend tonight but I doubt it."

was thinking the same thing. the second episode was one of the worst things HBO has ever done.

7/16/2012 1:10:30 AM

Prawn Star
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^^^ moron, you're the target audience for this show. I can see why you'd like it.

7/16/2012 1:32:34 AM

Pikey
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When is Olivia Munn gonna free dem tittays? I mean whats the point of the show being on HBO if there are no goddamn tits?

7/16/2012 7:30:23 AM

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7/16/2012 9:20:52 AM

quagmire02
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i haven't watched last night's episode, yet, but i don't think the show is that great

entertaining enough that i'll actually watch it, but if i'm on my laptop or doing something else at the same time, i don't feel like i've missed anything

7/16/2012 9:28:26 AM

saps852
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ya, I'm a pretty reactionay person. I should probably refrain from posting immediately after watching something. let me revise my statement:

I was ready to give up after about the first 10 minutes of this episode (I have a short attention span with drama), but it got way better and ended up being the best episode of the season so far. While I definitely think 2 and 3 were weaker than 1 and 4 I didnt think they were "the worst thing ever put on hbo" by a longshot.

also the bigfoot thing was still too over the top

7/16/2012 1:26:35 PM

Prawn Star
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It is interesting to see the storylines that Sorkin is putting forth with this. BP, the Tea Party and Sarah Palin are easy targets. Odd that they completely avoided the debate over the Affordable Care Act, which was the biggest story of 2010.

More interesting to me was the way they ended Episode 4. They once again tried to paint ACN as a beacon of fact-based journalism, this time by refusing to proclaim Giffords as dead based on a lone report. The bigger story at the time was the way that MSNBC and other stations falsely linked Jared Lee Loughner to the Tea Party and Sarah Palin in the immediate aftermath of the shooting. They called up an infographic from Palin with crosshairs on specific congressional battles, pushing the (false) idea that Loughner was an extremist Tea Partier. Sorkin could've created a more compelling (and even-handed) storyline by having McKenzie and ACN resist the urge to rush to judgement on the shooter's motives. Unfortunately, Sorkin is too partisan or too vested in his hatred of the Tea Party to have a plotline which shows the media going too far in the other direction.

7/16/2012 1:42:28 PM

ncsuapex
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Will is such a ladies man.

7/16/2012 6:37:54 PM

bbehe
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It's not the greatest show sure, but I don't see all the hate for it that people are talking about. I enjoy it.

7/16/2012 6:52:13 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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^^^
I haven't gotten the impression that ACN is representative of Fox News, so I'm questioning whether the fair and balanced aspect is what the show is going for...

7/17/2012 2:04:41 AM

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watching episodes 2-4 in succession you really can see the ups and downs this show is going through. I was close to shutting it down during 3 but pushed through. Episode 4 had a strong middle and end. I'll continue to watch, but this may turn into a DVR backlog instead of a weekly must see.

7/17/2012 7:54:13 AM

tommy wiseau
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why do all the people on this show act like teenagers in their relationships? god that was the worst episode yet

7/17/2012 10:55:28 AM

Wyloch
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Its weirdly inconsistent. I always love 45 minutes of an episode and get annoyed with the other 15. This time it was bigfoot and the subplot with jim and the roommate. Annoying but then fifteen minutes later im basically cheering from my couch at the finale.

7/18/2012 12:03:11 PM

DoeoJ
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yea what the hell was up with bigfoot?

7/18/2012 12:48:44 PM

Jeepin4x4
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Plot device to get everyone in the newsroom on a Saturday, when the GG shooting took place.

As one reviewer said, though, it's tough watching the last 10 minutes as fictional characters use a real national tragedy to feel good about themselves.

7/18/2012 12:54:52 PM

TKE-Teg
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Anyone else not a big fan of Emily Mortimer? She gets on my nerves a bit and she looks like a bird.

7/18/2012 1:17:05 PM

armorfrsleep
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She looks like a bird because she has avian bone syndrome.

7/18/2012 3:31:10 PM

skokiaan
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Can't tell if this a model of what a newsroom should be or a caricature of a newsroom.

They've had some really stupid situations in just 3 episodes. All the personal drama is uninteresting.

7/18/2012 8:31:39 PM

Wyloch
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Yeah if they cut out the personal subplots and made it 30 mins and stick to the real intent of the show itd be flawless.

[Edited on July 18, 2012 at 11:09 PM. Reason : ]

7/18/2012 11:05:54 PM

disco_stu
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Video games and TSB must have rotted my brain because I couldn't make it through the first episode without giving up on it. Found it completely uninteresting.

7/19/2012 4:31:36 PM

saps852
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^^^^lololololololololol

7/19/2012 5:10:00 PM

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