Klatypus All American 6786 Posts user info edit post |
... Except I am not trolling. maybe if you actually read what people are saying you would understand it.
IMO she fucked up BIG, and 10 years is not a big amount of time considering she took away a total of 50 + yrs from the people she killed.
I don't think it is fair to the families of the victims just because she promises to live their dreams for them. It sucks for her, someone should have introduced her to smokey the bear.

[Edited on July 19, 2012 at 11:51 AM. Reason : .] 7/19/2012 11:46:56 AM
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Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
One of the girls she burned alive was high school friend and her sister.
Should she get life in prison for a prank? No Should she get life in prison for Arson? No Should she get life in prison for her stupidity? No Should she get life in prison for fleeing the scene instead of fixing the mess she created? No Should she get life in prison for pleading guilty instead of defending herself as was her right? No
Should she get life in prison because of all of the above together in context? Damn right she should. 7/19/2012 11:58:08 AM
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JohnNoir Suspenisioned 127 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.news-record.com/blog/55771/entry/78917 7/19/2012 12:25:57 PM
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JohnNoir Suspenisioned 127 Posts user info edit post |
Two of the families from the victims wrote letters in support of the clemency petition. Interesting. 7/19/2012 12:26:58 PM
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BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Doesn't matter this bitch is gonna rot in jail 7/19/2012 12:33:02 PM
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Klatypus All American 6786 Posts user info edit post |
And I am not surprised the parents of some of the victims support it. They have had to live with all this for years, maybe it is time for them to let go of the hate.
While I agree it is steep. I think she should get parole, but not after only 10 years.
I feel bad, but seriously, this girl knows the laws of this country. She should have known even if the fire did not become deadly, she still would have been in trouble. You can't just light shit on fire on someone's doorstep and leave it w/o risking getting caught.
I hate to bring race into this, but if she weren't white... would people even think twice about this? I don't know, but I think it is interesting to consider.
[Edited on July 19, 2012 at 1:07 PM. Reason : .] 7/19/2012 12:39:26 PM
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quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I would like to see a system wide change that will address convicts that are innocent." |
lolwut? 7/19/2012 1:04:54 PM
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Klatypus All American 6786 Posts user info edit post |
innocent people that never commited crimes but are in jail.
I would sign a petition for them before I sign this I guess. 7/19/2012 1:06:14 PM
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BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
She's guilty...so what are we talking about here. 7/19/2012 1:08:14 PM
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jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I hate to bring race into this, but if she weren't white... would people even think twice about this? I don't know, but I think it is interesting to consider." |
What retarded thought came into your fucked up thought process, that led you to think that this would be interesting?? 7/19/2012 1:18:55 PM
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red baron 22 All American 2166 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I hate to bring race into this, but if she weren't white... would people even think twice about this? I don't know, but I think it is interesting to consider." |
no 7/19/2012 1:21:46 PM
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28507 Posts user info edit post |
Klatypus is a racist ITT 7/19/2012 1:35:51 PM
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Klatypus All American 6786 Posts user info edit post |
because, some people look at color when deciding people's innocence or whether they deserve parole after murdering 4 people.
not interesting in the way that I am excited, interested bc the politics of humans is a fucked up thing.
[Edited on July 19, 2012 at 1:56 PM. Reason : anyway, back on topic, sorry for derailing it. I still think she will get parole, just not now.] 7/19/2012 1:38:51 PM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
HAI GUISE, I CUT THE BRAKE LINES ON MY BUDDY'S CAR AS A PRANK, LOL. IT'S OK THOUGH, BECAUSE HE ENDED UP GOING AROUND A CURVE TO QUICKLY AND WENT OFF A CLIFF. HELLUVA PRANK, I TELL YOU. THE CAR BLEW UP, KILLING HIM, HIS WIFE, HIS TWO YOUNG CHILDREN, AND HIS MOTHER. LOLOLOL.
[Edited on July 19, 2012 at 2:19 PM. Reason : shitbags] 7/19/2012 2:18:33 PM
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JohnNoir Suspenisioned 127 Posts user info edit post |
Troll thread got to page 2 with an alias. Thanks, folks! 7/19/2012 2:47:17 PM
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Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think felony murder should be a first degree offense (which is why there is no parole). But I don't know if this person should be the poster child to overturn that rule.
[Edited on July 19, 2012 at 2:57 PM. Reason : ^ ] 7/19/2012 2:56:19 PM
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SkiSalomon All American 4264 Posts user info edit post |
Wouldn't there be no parole since NC did away with it prior to this crime occurring? 7/19/2012 3:07:12 PM
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armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't think felony murder should be a first degree offense (which is why there is no parole). But I don't know if this person should be the poster child to overturn that rule." |
agreed. 7/19/2012 3:13:19 PM
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Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
^^Are you asking me? There's no parole in NC for a First Degree murder charge. It's an automatic life sentence. I was referring to the fact that felony murder is also automatically a first degree offense, despite not having the appropriate intent necessary to otherwise have a first degree conviction. Hence, if felony murder were just tried as a normal murder, she'd likely get 2nd and have the opportunity for parole, etc. 7/19/2012 4:55:04 PM
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Fumbler All American 4670 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "... Except I am not trolling. maybe if you actually read what people are saying you would understand it.
IMO she fucked up BIG, and 10 years is not a big amount of time considering she took away a total of 50 + yrs from the people she killed.
I don't think it is fair to the families of the victims just because she promises to live their dreams for them. It sucks for her, someone should have introduced her to smokey the bear Smokey Bear." |
Smokey is his first name and Bear is his last name. The isn't his middle name; he has no middle name. 7/19/2012 10:31:43 PM
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MinkaGrl01
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I feel bad that I lolled reading this thread but he^ made me do it  7/19/2012 10:33:28 PM
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0EPII1 All American 42567 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It sucks for her, someone should have introduced her to smokey the bear adulthood, actually, age 10." |
7/19/2012 10:41:44 PM
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Klatypus All American 6786 Posts user info edit post |
I think I will steal Smokey Bear's identity and take out a line of credit now that I have this pertinent information.  7/20/2012 9:18:49 AM
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jimmypop All American 1405 Posts user info edit post |
Janet Danahey has *never* touched my dog in an inappropriate manner or sold me any deworming agent, but she has “pranked” four people to death. Janet Danahey has *never* touched my dog in an inappropriate manner or sold me any deworming agent, but she has “pranked” four people to death. Janet Danahey has *never* touched my dog in an inappropriate manner or sold me any deworming agent, but she has “pranked” four people to death. Janet Danahey has *never* touched my dog in an inappropriate manner or sold me any deworming agent, but she has “pranked” four people to death. Janet Danahey has *never* touched my dog in an inappropriate manner or sold me any deworming agent, but she has “pranked” four people to death. Janet Danahey has *never* touched my dog in an inappropriate manner or sold me any deworming agent, but she has “pranked” four people to death. Janet Danahey has *never* touched my dog in an inappropriate manner or sold me any deworming agent, but she has “pranked” four people to death. Janet Danahey has *never* touched my dog in an inappropriate manner or sold me any deworming agent, but she has “pranked” four people to death. 7/20/2012 3:38:10 PM
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OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Dante Stallworth got 30 days in jail for killing a woman with his Bentley while drunk, and he's still allowed to play football. That's just about as negligent, if not more so.
[Edited on July 20, 2012 at 4:20 PM. Reason : .] 7/20/2012 4:19:10 PM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
good argument! 7/20/2012 4:24:05 PM
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OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
You'll also be shocked to know that he's BLACK! And MALE! 7/20/2012 4:25:51 PM
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28507 Posts user info edit post |
I didn't realize that happened in north carolina!
oh wait. 7/20/2012 6:47:05 PM
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Str8BacardiL ************ 41759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Fast-forward to July 29, 2002: Janet Danahey was facing prosecution under a little-known law called the felony murder rule, which states that if a person commits or attempts to commit certain felonies, in this case arson, any deaths which may result from the felony are charged as first-degree murder. Intent to commit murder does not have to be proved, and there are only two possible penalties after being found guilty under the felony murder rule: death, or life in prison without possibility of parole. The law also holds that any persons with the perpetrator of the felony must also be held accountable in the same manner as if they, themselves, were perpetrators of the felony and prosecuted accordingly. " |
It should have been manslaughter, she did not intentionally kill (murder), but should still be in prison for a couple of decades. 7/20/2012 11:47:33 PM
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Str8BacardiL ************ 41759 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/11339680/
one of the parents supports clemency 7/20/2012 11:55:33 PM
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0EPII1 All American 42567 Posts user info edit post |
^^ i think when you commit something hugely destructive, it doesn't matter whether you intend to kill or not. any deaths should be treated as murder.
what if i go out and bring a small building (2-3 stories) down at 3 am, thinking it is empty, with explosives? what if there were a couple of people inside, working late?
same thing with burning a house down. she could have helped them or called 911, she didn't. 7/21/2012 12:44:24 AM
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moron All American 34475 Posts user info edit post |
She's dumb but doesn't deserve life in prison. 7/21/2012 3:46:45 AM
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28507 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " It should have been manslaughter, she did not intentionally kill (murder), but should still be in prison for a couple of decades." |
Well then she should have went to trial and not pled guilty to felony murder.
And I agree, if somebody dies because you burn a building down, that's murder. 7/21/2012 10:34:35 AM
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datman All American 4812 Posts user info edit post |
im sorry but i dont care if you confess to it.....she should be put to death and i think by lighting her on fire.
just because someone is a good person and does one stupid horrible thing doesnt mean u should treat them better. what if obama confessed to something bad....gonna go lightly because u like him? you have to be unbiased....look at the crime. She lit someone shit on fire, fled, heard people were killed, didnt turn herself in but confessed once they arrested her, and even believed she should get capital punishment. im sry but there are times when a guy kills a whole family and gets the death penalty. someones people get off because of how they have to do the trial or they get lesser sentences. people are repeat offenders, im sure she wouldnt be but look at what she did. i dont care if the pope is perfect and then on his death bed kills 5 people. im still gonna put him in the chair.
also, just because u confessed doesnt mean u should be left off. if hitler confessed to the holocaust....u think he should just get life in prison?
lastly, our prisons are over crowded and i think if u take a life and convicted of it in the 1st degree.....no life sentence, automatic death sentence. if you do something like drink and drive and kill someone, same thing. if u accidentally kill someone, then u get prison and it depends on situation.
burn the bitch 7/21/2012 11:37:31 AM
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Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
Setting a futon / furniture on fire is not a 'prank'. 7/21/2012 12:01:01 PM
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Smath74 All American 93281 Posts user info edit post |
That's not a prank, it's fucking arson. I hope she rots in jail. 7/21/2012 12:56:26 PM
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sawahash All American 35321 Posts user info edit post |
^Yeah that's what I'm saying...
A prank would have been covering his door knob with vasaline...or hell, even throwing a couple bags full of dog shit on his front door if she wanted to be a bitch to her ex...but lighting something on fire...that's just dumb.
While it was involentary...she didn't want to kill those people...it's still her fault they are dead. 7/21/2012 1:01:40 PM
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The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26702 Posts user info edit post |
BUT GUISE, SHE WAS DRUUUNK! IT COULD HAVE HAPPENED TO ANY OF US! LOLS! 7/21/2012 1:33:52 PM
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GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Sisters Donna and Rachel Llewellyn, Ryan Bek, and Beth Harris all died in the fire, which burned an apartment complex near the UNCG Campus." |
Attn johnnoir:
These four people got death sentences and didn't pull any prank at all. 7/21/2012 1:44:47 PM
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Str8BacardiL ************ 41759 Posts user info edit post |
You coud ask Todd Willingham what he thinks about this, oh wait, you cant. 7/21/2012 3:53:07 PM
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SkiSalomon All American 4264 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It should have been manslaughter, she did not intentionally kill (murder), but should still be in prison for a couple of decades." |
According to your quote, it should not have been manslaughter and she appears to have been charged correctly.
That said, she plead to first degree murder knowing full well what the consequence was. No sympathy here. 7/21/2012 3:57:26 PM
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jimmypop All American 1405 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.news-record.com/content/2012/07/28/article/officials_dispute_danahey_s_clemency_petition 7/29/2012 9:58:13 PM
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0EPII1 All American 42567 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "“She did (attempt to dispose of evidence), there’s no doubt about it,” Smith says." |
(Smith is her lawyer)
Quote : | "“And I’m very sorry she made that decision. It doesn’t mean she did this intentionally." |
WAT?
Quote : | "“It’s what a 22- or 23-year-old girl would do who was in panic and scared to death. It is understandable and forgivable.”" |
Understandable, yes. Forgivable, no.
Quote : | "Those asking for mercy, including prominent Greensboro residents Jim Melvin and Mike Weaver, weren’t there on Feb. 15, 2002, Douglas [the fire chief who was on the scene] says.
“These prominent people are entitled to their opinion, but do they know the facts?” Douglas says. “They certainly weren’t there when we pulled up on scene, with people jumping from second and third floor windows on top of our firefighters, walking across the parking lot barefoot over burning material.”
They didn’t search through the 5-foot pile of debris where the staircase had been, by handful and shovelful, looking for — and finding — human remains.
“Many of us will carry memories of that fire until the day we die,” Douglas says. “This was not a miscarriage of justice. This was the intent of the law.”" |
Damn right, Douglas. 7/29/2012 10:18:27 PM
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Smath74 All American 93281 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "“This was not a miscarriage of justice. This was the intent of the law.”" |
7/29/2012 10:41:58 PM
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ComputerGuy (IN)Sensitive 5052 Posts user info edit post |
If she gives good helmet, I could put a good word with my friend, JC. 7/29/2012 10:57:29 PM
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BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
A lot of people don't understand the importance of arson laws. Like, they think it's illegal because it damages property, not because it often kills people. But, as a super awesome Girl Scout, you'd think she'd be fully aware of dangers associated with fire.
I'm also not clear on what makes her such an amazing, special person. She did church stuff and was good at Girl Scouts. She got a degree in Business and "talked about" saving the environment and the world. And she also got drunk with her friends and set out to put clam juice in her ex-boyfriend's car and ended up lighting a building on fire and leaving people behind to die.
She just seems like a normal person to me...maybe a little immature for 23. But there's no evidence that she "has otherwise lived an exemplary, positive, and socially-conscious life." I just find it really, really hard to believe that someone who would actually pull the clam juice prank is also somehow an exemplary, upstanding individual or whatever. 7/29/2012 11:42:25 PM
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jimmypop All American 1405 Posts user info edit post |
^maybe she never got her arson badge? It's clear though she never earned her how to pull a prank safely badge 7/30/2012 7:07:43 AM
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