biggest fraud of the 21st century

10/17/2012 12:08:21 PM

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"biggest fraud of the 21st century"

In a time period where characters like Bernie Maddolf run billion dollar Ponzi schemes and under-performing CEOs give themselves golden parachutes while cooking the books, you choose an athlete who dopes in a sport widely known for doping as the "biggest fraud"?

This is why we can't have nice things.

[Edited on October 17, 2012 at 2:00 PM. Reason : ]

10/17/2012 1:59:06 PM

Bernie Maddolf wasn't anyone's hero or poster boy for beating cancer

I always thought Lance was a smug prick and that the livestrong bracelets looked corny as hell

glad I never bought one

10/17/2012 8:01:37 PM

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"In the wake of the doping scandal critics have struck out the "V" in the bracelet to make it read what they accuse Armstrong of doing for more than a decade: "LIE STRONG."""

lol

10/17/2012 8:34:42 PM

Personally, I feel as though lying and cheating to dominate a sport so that you can become a popular figure that can raise 500 million for cancer is okay.

10/17/2012 8:35:47 PM

the cancer industry is full of lies anyway, so why not?!

10/17/2012 8:43:19 PM

how long until he's naked and jacking it in San Diego?

10/17/2012 9:09:58 PM

I still find a situation where all the evidence comes from 'friends' and 'teammates' more than a little suspect. There is a reason that this isn't in a actual court system.

10/18/2012 2:00:25 PM

It's not in the courts b/c Lance didn't want it to go there. He didn't want the evidence against him out.

10/18/2012 2:04:14 PM

Excellent documentary:

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2012/10/11/3608613.htm

10/21/2012 4:48:55 PM

This is a good example of what happens when you stop fighting with your accusers - they run with a story and take it as fact. Gotta prove your innocence, these days.

10/22/2012 6:39:41 PM

ooooooooor maybe that shit was fuckin true. I guess I just find it hard to believe that every single witness they've got sayin Lance was juicin is lying. Coupled with the fact that Lance consistently keeps saying "I've never tested positive," that, to me, is enough, especially when he has tested positive, on numerous occasions.

10/22/2012 8:09:18 PM

He's a lying piece of shit little bitch ass punk. Fuck that guy.

1/15/2013 7:11:59 AM

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"People have overlooked the real story here — the lives that had to be destroyed to keep the lie going. To me this is like some giant, athletic Ponzi scheme that went on and on and built and built.''"

http://todaynews.today.com/_news/2013/01/15/16523330-mike-lupica-people-fell-in-love-with-the-legend-of-armstrong

1/15/2013 10:05:40 AM

someone got wealthy based on lies? why, i never thought i'd see the day!

1/15/2013 10:08:37 AM

How many people in this thread are gonna have to wipe a lot of egg off of their face? Suckers.

[Edited on January 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM. Reason : i didn't actually read the thread, so maybe there aren't many people who were defending him]

1/15/2013 10:16:59 AM

Going to Oprah is liking going to a priest for confession, she'll resolve you of all your sins.

1/15/2013 10:40:12 AM

Why does everyone feel the need to have big confession interviews with Oprah? What right does she have to look down on people?

1/15/2013 10:54:53 AM

^ she doesn't ask the hard hitting questions, so it's an easy way of airing out your bad shit. if he had balls (i guess he really only has one), he'd be willing to face someone who would ask the tough questions, and wouldn't provide the list of questions in advance.

The way i see it is, i don't really care that he juiced to go faster on a bike through some mountains in France. The good that came through the money and focus on Cancer research certainly outweighs that.

i do have a huge problem with the individual lives that were destroyed by him and those involved in covering up said juicing and bullying those who were trying to blow the whistle on it.

1/15/2013 11:04:56 AM

I wouldn't say that she doesn't ask "hard hitting questions". She is just much less likely to ask loaded questions or have a hidden agenda. Every interviewer wants the chance to crucify him in an interview, but I do agree he will probably get the fairest shake from Oprah. NOTE that she apparently asked him 117 pre-planned questions. You can't get that many questions without hitting some delicate topics (in theory).

I also don't really see how this is Oprah looking down on Lance.

[Edited on January 15, 2013 at 11:24 AM. Reason : ]

1/15/2013 11:23:20 AM

he was the best Juiced up road biker of our time... least he still has that going for him.

1/15/2013 12:11:16 PM

i doubt i'll watch the interview tonight because i don't care enough

but supposedly oprah said he didn't really confess as much as she had hoped he would

1/15/2013 12:13:05 PM

i heard on m&m this morning that oprah and her staff were surprised about how far he went with his confession.

also, this nike commercial is funny: "People ask me: "What are you on?" I'm on my bike, busting my ass six hours a day, what are you on?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIl5RxhLZ5U

1/15/2013 12:18:46 PM

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"How many people in this thread are gonna have to wipe a lot of egg off of their face? Suckers."

This. There are several people in this thread and in others that have some major crow to be eating

1/15/2013 12:56:09 PM

I don't think I ever posted in this thread but I was definitely one of the blind fools that believed his story. I'm fed up with this world.

1/15/2013 1:02:22 PM

I bought his shtick for a while mostly out of ignorance and sheer apathy about cycling. However, it seems like its been pretty obvious since at least 2005 that the dude has been doping. Literally everyone else at the top of that sport was caught doing it, and you're telling me the one guy winning all the races was clean? Impossible.

[Edited on January 15, 2013 at 1:25 PM. Reason : :]

1/15/2013 1:25:26 PM

1/15/2013 2:51:40 PM

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"There are several people in this thread and in others that have some major crow to be eating"

There's a "that's what she said" somewhere in there considering his ex-wife

1/15/2013 3:02:08 PM

Tell us more about Saint Armstrong who "never failed a drug test (except for the ones he did)".

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"goalielax: 400+ clean tests in his life, but an e-mail from a confirmed doper is going to take him down USADA should be ashamed"

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"Arab13: I still find a situation where all the evidence comes from 'friends' and 'teammates' more than a little suspect. There is a reason that this isn't in a actual court system."

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"DoubleDown: This is a good example of what happens when you stop fighting with your accusers - they run with a story and take it as fact. Gotta prove your innocence, these days."

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1/15/2013 9:18:53 PM

Yes, he was the best doped rider in the field, but Lance is an asshole, and LiveStrong is a fucking scam. Fuck that guy, and I hope folks take his ass to the cleaners.

1/15/2013 9:50:13 PM

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"i doubt i'll watch the interview tonight because i don't care enough"

I doubt you'll watch it too, because it doesn't air until Thursday.

1/15/2013 10:46:44 PM

Colbert on Lance... lol

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/422891/january-15-2013/lance-armstrong-s-interview-with-oprah

1/16/2013 8:18:37 AM

What if Colbert got that interview

1/16/2013 10:41:34 AM

lol, oprah got all the info we needed to know in the first 5 minutes, why the fuck is this three hours long?

1/17/2013 9:06:10 PM

i'm actually gonna watch this (just turned it on)

i love watching people lie through their teeth

1/17/2013 9:07:48 PM

ya, I may watch a bit but not sure what they have to talk about for three hours (at leats that I would care about)

1/17/2013 9:09:43 PM

"sure doping was bad, but it wasn't East German bad"

1/17/2013 9:10:45 PM

^^looks like its 90 minutes and they're playing it twice in a row

since oprah's network is about to go bankrupt

[Edited on January 17, 2013 at 9:17 PM. Reason : v oh]

1/17/2013 9:15:48 PM

theres a second part tomorrow


he's being very skittish about some of these questions, fuck this guy

[Edited on January 17, 2013 at 9:25 PM. Reason : .]

1/17/2013 9:16:09 PM

how could somebody this awful at lying get this far?

dude is awful

1/17/2013 9:26:57 PM

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" lol, oprah got all the info we needed to know in the first 5 minutes, why the fuck is this three hours long?"

Which was, for those of us at work??

1/17/2013 9:30:56 PM

yes he doped (testosterone, epo and blood transfusions), he doped for all 7 wins and he wouldnt have won if he hadnt doped

[Edited on January 17, 2013 at 9:35 PM. Reason : lol dr. ferrari]

1/17/2013 9:35:10 PM

Don't have cable so I can't watch it, but following a cycling journalist on twitter who just tweeted

"So right after Lance says you can't win the Tour clean he says he was clean for his comeback?"

Yup, about what I expected from this self-serving piece of shit.

1/17/2013 9:35:18 PM

lol at him getting all choked up when he had to watch that video clip

1/17/2013 9:45:13 PM

you were right tt, watching him get all squirmy and deflective has been worth it

1/17/2013 9:49:20 PM

apparently "stress sweat" smells worse than ordinary sweat

thanks, deodorant commercial

1/17/2013 9:52:25 PM

lol "its impossible for me to answer this question and for anyone to believe it"

gee, wonder why

[Edited on January 17, 2013 at 10:01 PM. Reason : my god, the bullshit levels are off teh chart with this guy "to be honest we sued so many people lol]

1/17/2013 9:59:14 PM

I watched this entire thing and my care level is the exact same as it was before hand. Almost zero.

1/17/2013 11:01:45 PM

I think he's an alright guy. I mean, I definitely believe he never called that one chick fat.

1/18/2013 12:04:56 PM

Some video here

http://www.gossipcop.com/lance-armstrong-doping-confession-oprah-video-interview-oprahs-next-chapter-recap-confessed-performance-enhancing-drugs/

Where is the entire interview?

1/23/2013 4:25:56 PM