We aren't racist, we just try to help out our own. What is wrong with that? Isn't it more racist to assume a party should be helping out those other people who can't can't do it for themselves?

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10/8/2012 8:22:08 PM

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"Obama said he'd reduce the deficit and promised a whole bunch of other things and to hold him accountable for that. He didnt follow thru, so im voting against him."

[Edited on October 8, 2012 at 8:24 PM. Reason : i voted for him the first time]

10/8/2012 8:24:14 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio&feature=player_embedded

[Edited on October 8, 2012 at 8:25 PM. Reason : original obamaphone lady]

10/8/2012 8:24:44 PM

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"Isn't it more racist to assume a party should be helping out those other people who can't can't do it for themselves?"

you miss the idea. it's not "oh here's these stupid people we should throw them a bone", it's "we're all a part of the same society, if people are having a bad time let's help them out, b/c maybe next year i'm the one having a bad time". that last part is completely and totally lost on republicans, b/c the party is led by people who own so much (somehow) that they can't possibly have the floor fall out from under them.

^^ DUDE, romney can't even be held accountable for things that he's said on his campaign. you think he's going to give a fuck about what he campaigned on if he's elected??

[Edited on October 8, 2012 at 8:31 PM. Reason : voting for a guy that completely changes his policies depending on the crowd... great idea!]

10/8/2012 8:29:09 PM

Or the party is populated by folks who are confident when the floor falls out from under them they aren't so goddamn stupid they need the government to pick them up.

10/8/2012 8:30:44 PM

so only smart people are allowed to live well?

10/8/2012 8:31:43 PM

Racist.

10/8/2012 8:32:04 PM

i invite you to show me anything racist that i've posted on this board, ever.

10/8/2012 8:33:10 PM

simonn is just clueless

10/8/2012 8:33:19 PM

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"so only smart people are allowed to live well?"

10/8/2012 8:35:10 PM

anyone calling romney a liar has obviously been asleep for the last four years. we have been lied to continuously. i think romney is a mediocre (at best) candidate but obama's last 4 years have been filled with empty promises and a questionable (at best) healthcare plan.

i'm not saying romney has all of the answers, but obama has had his chance.

[Edited on October 8, 2012 at 8:36 PM. Reason : lied to by bush before that too.]

10/8/2012 8:36:32 PM

nevermind, willy beat me.

10/8/2012 8:38:20 PM

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"simonn is just clueless"

he really is

10/8/2012 8:40:26 PM

Republicans,

If Romney gives a speech in favor of increased defense spending and involvement (unilateral if necessary) in Syria as some news agencies are reporting, will you still vote for him?

Signed,
Genuinely curious

10/8/2012 8:44:08 PM

That's just the thing...

Given Obama's platform in 2008 and his record since then you can only conclude 1 of 2 things:

1) He's a liar (not in the white lie kind of way).
2) He's the most naive President in history.

Neither of which is obviously desirable in a President, but it boils down to this.

Obama is a proven loser, so why would you stick with a loser? Seems like a gamble to me.

Romney is not a proven loser, and could easily be worse, but the odds seem better.

The former flushes the country down the toilet, whereas the latter gives Dems the ability to say nanners. Any prediction of Romney flushing the country down the toilet is a guess.

I think ill stick to nanners.

10/8/2012 8:44:12 PM

i invite you to enlighten me.

^ it's not a guess. he is planning to redistribute wealth to the top and cut all safety nets. that is as literally as one can "flush the country down the toilet".

so please, enlighten me, but you have to say more than "obama sucks, let's try someone else and fuck it, let's just see what happens".

what do you hate about obama? what do you like about romney?

[Edited on October 8, 2012 at 8:48 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2012 8:45:23 PM

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"Obama is a proven loser, so why would you stick with a loser? Seems like a gamble to me."

wat

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10/8/2012 8:48:15 PM

10/8/2012 8:49:47 PM

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"Obama is a proven loser, so why would you stick with a loser? Seems like a gamble to me. Romney is not a proven loser, and could easily be worse, but the odds seem better. "

Why are you so focused on losers. How about we look at a winner instead?

10/8/2012 8:53:22 PM

^^ true as that may be, it's no reason to vote for a person that won't even tell you what his plan is.

guys, just look at who funds the gop's pacs.

that brings me to another point: don't like obama (and for no reason that doesn't also apply to romney, as far as i can tell)? vote for a guy who has literally no plan.

[Edited on October 8, 2012 at 8:55 PM. Reason : that's just absurd]

10/8/2012 8:53:38 PM

gary johnson makes it pretty clear what his plan would be

10/8/2012 8:55:41 PM

Honestly, i'm voting for romney because he reminds me of this guy



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10/8/2012 8:57:27 PM

^^ ahhhhhhhh you got me. fair enough.

[Edited on October 8, 2012 at 8:58 PM. Reason : libertarianism is as big of a fantasy as socialism... but at least it's a plan.]

10/8/2012 8:57:31 PM

How bout this. All you people who want to save this country one socialist idea at a time, why don't we put a line item on your tax returns. Let's call it "Optional income to allot to others." You can give whatever amount of your income you wish to all those lost souls out there that will not survive without your help. Others who have either been kept down by the man, or those who just have simply made poor choices in their life. Either way, you can help them to your heart's content, whatever helps you sleep at night.

I'll pay my required taxes and keep the rest of my income to support my family, and give some disposable income to charities as I choose, and do community service to help others.

But I don't need the gov't to tell me how to spend my money.

There's no use in complaining though. Bleeding heart liberals are always going to have Knight in Shining Armor syndrome.

10/8/2012 8:59:15 PM

when has the government ever told you how to spend your money?

10/8/2012 9:02:05 PM

^Um... isn't that the basic idea behind tax incentives

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10/8/2012 9:03:08 PM

okay imagine this: what if you didn't have to worry about being able to afford to support your family? wouldn't that be better than worrying about being able to support your family?

10/8/2012 9:03:23 PM

not if it meant my disposable income went down

10/8/2012 9:04:12 PM

what value does disposable income have if you don't have to worry about being able to eat, receive health care or providing your children w/ a quality education? more trucks?

10/8/2012 9:05:03 PM

boats, guns, fishing tackle, gas for said boats

you know

leisure

10/8/2012 9:05:51 PM

Hobbies? Going to events? Vacations? Quality of life?

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10/8/2012 9:06:18 PM

and don't get me started on children. can't afford em? don't breed.

10/8/2012 9:09:03 PM

romney might win if he convinces people that there will be Change

10/8/2012 9:09:33 PM

(i like you man. i really do. you gave me a couch and helped move it into my place to boot. you're a fucking cool guy.)

i'm glad you have a nice job burning fucking coal so that you can live a leisurely, luxurious life... but one has to be able to step back and say realize that it's not a basic human right to go have a great time while your own countrymen don't have access to basic necessities. and these necessities are becoming even more exclusive, and if romney is elected (who i know you don't support) they will become even more exclusive. that is the underlying theme of every plan that the gop puts into place.

and i'm not even talking about kids in africa. fellow fucking americans!

i'm not saying give up everything extra you have to help, that's a fantasy, but jesus christ man you can pay some goddamn taxes.

[Edited on October 8, 2012 at 9:11 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2012 9:10:22 PM

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"what value does disposable income have if you don't have to worry about being able to eat, receive health care or providing your children w/ a quality education? more trucks? "

seriously, what in the fucking fuck is wrong with you? are you just hell bent on the government taking care of you from the cradle and the grave?

[Edited on October 8, 2012 at 9:11 PM. Reason : money? h00 needs DAT?]

10/8/2012 9:11:08 PM

I studied in HS. Took out student loans. Went to college. Worked while I was in college. It really was not that hard.

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10/8/2012 9:12:17 PM

speaking of bleeding heart liberalism

10/8/2012 9:12:25 PM

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"i'm glad you have a nice job burning fucking coal so that you can live a leisurely, luxurious life... but one has to be able to step back and say realize that it's not a basic human right to go have a great time while your own countrymen don't have access to basic necessities."

if we wake the fuck up, there's no reason we can't have both

and i burn natural gas now. some of the most efficient units in NC.

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"but jesus christ man you can pay some goddamn taxes."

i have no problem whatsoever paying taxes. i just think they should be fair to everyone.

[Edited on October 8, 2012 at 9:14 PM. Reason : fads]

10/8/2012 9:12:56 PM

what the fucking fuck is wrong w/ you? are you hellbent on watching people struggle for no reason so that you can have a fun time?

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"if we wake the fuck up, there's no reason we can't have both"

YEAH DUDE, I KNOW! I TOTALLY AGREE! people who have more money than they can spend should pay some of it in taxes. that's not an absurd stance, even though half the country would frame it as such.

[Edited on October 8, 2012 at 9:14 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2012 9:13:05 PM

so many stories of families being taxed into debt

10/8/2012 9:13:21 PM

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"and i burn natural gas now. some of the most efficient units in NC."

LOL



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10/8/2012 9:13:50 PM

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"I studied in HS. Took out student loans. Went to college. Worked while I was in college. It really was not that hard."

paid those loans off bro? you're hardly out of the woods. not saying you won't get there, but don't roll in acting like you know exactly how to do it when you're not even halfway through the process.

10/8/2012 9:16:26 PM

why pay off loans? the precious government doesn't pay off their loans

10/8/2012 9:17:26 PM

Nope. But I also didn't read half the posts in this thread so I don't know the progression of this discussion. What struggles are we talking about? Just being poor?

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[Edited on October 8, 2012 at 9:18 PM. Reason : ^yeah I'm waiting for obama to bail me out since i wasn't hired the second I walked]

10/8/2012 9:17:57 PM

that's b/c they know what you don't: money is fake.

forests have value. coal has value. precious metals have value. money is made up. yet it's all we talk about.

10/8/2012 9:18:33 PM

Yeah lets go back to bartering for everything.

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10/8/2012 9:19:30 PM

precious metals have value in the same way that money has value

10/8/2012 9:19:48 PM

wat nigga u see deez rims?

do u see deez rims?

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10/8/2012 9:21:02 PM

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"don't roll in acting like you know exactly how to do it when you're not even halfway through the process."

i'm sure Krallum is clueless as to how paying off debt works.

this is just comical.

10/8/2012 9:23:11 PM

simonn might seem like an idiot backed into a corner fending off wolves with his ridiculous rant, but this is actually a terrific insight into the mind of the typical liberal.

He has no aspirations, no money, no possessions, so he wants to vote for Obama to penalize those who do.

Under the guise of "being human."

Fantastic.

10/8/2012 9:25:12 PM