where's the 2003 braves thread when you need it?

12/26/2012 11:57:13 AM

exactly^

12/26/2012 1:53:10 PM

I've always wondered if Jones was roiding and if so did he just take the shit and not workout? Dude was perpetually out of shape, but could move well and seemed to never get hurt. Plus he had that whole Brady Anderson type year where he went insane and hit well beyond any of his career metrics would have suggested.

Oh well. I wonder what his chances are for the HOF. I'd say 15% maybe and most of that is based on his amazing defense.

12/26/2012 2:07:56 PM

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"Plus he had that whole Brady Anderson type year where he went insane and hit well beyond any of his career metrics would have suggested"

remember that brady anderson type year roger maris had in 1961?

12/26/2012 5:57:06 PM

Anyway

Diaz to the Yankees

Would be nice to sign a left fielder sometime soon

12/26/2012 6:23:49 PM

What a surprise Rat Soup getting all defensive if a Baltimore Oriole player is mentioned in any way, shape, or form on TWW. Comparing Brady Anderson to Roger Maris is weak. Brady Anderson only hit more than 20 HRs in a season twice and then has this massive outlier of 50 HRs in one season. A fucking 200%+ jump in his career high.

Maris was the MVP in 1960 and hit 39 HRs before he went nuts in 1961 hitting behind Mantle and playing in Yankees stadium which was perfect for a lefty like him. Maris going to 61 was unlikely, but Brady Anderson, a fucking leadoff hitter that was more base stealer than power hitter suddenly getting jacked and crushing HRs all over the place was unimaginable.

Maris's peak was ~60% over his high, not 200%. Plus Maris had his peak at 27 which is normal for elite athletes, Brady did his at 32 which means he was probably on roids. Stop being such a sensitive cunt when it comes to the Orioles. It's just a baseball team.



[Edited on December 27, 2012 at 7:51 AM. Reason : df]

12/27/2012 7:50:46 AM

Well that's also a good reason it wasn't a good comparison to andruw either. At 28 he hit 51, then 41 after about 5 straight years in the mid-30s.

But yes Brady obviously did something, although I have heard people (maybe cal?) defend him.

12/27/2012 8:29:01 AM

and

goes the dynamite

12/27/2012 8:35:32 AM

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"What a surprise Rat Soup getting all defensive if a Baltimore Oriole player is mentioned in any way, shape, or form on TWW. Comparing Brady Anderson to Roger Maris is weak. Brady Anderson only hit more than 20 HRs in a season twice and then has this massive outlier of 50 HRs in one season. A fucking 200%+ jump in his career high. Maris was the MVP in 1960 and hit 39 HRs before he went nuts in 1961 hitting behind Mantle and playing in Yankees stadium which was perfect for a lefty like him. Maris going to 61 was unlikely, but Brady Anderson, a fucking leadoff hitter that was more base stealer than power hitter suddenly getting jacked and crushing HRs all over the place was unimaginable. Maris's peak was ~60% over his high, not 200%. Plus Maris had his peak at 27 which is normal for elite athletes, Brady did his at 32 which means he was probably on roids. Stop being such a sensitive cunt when it comes to the Orioles. It's just a baseball team."

i wasn't really trying to defend brady anderson because he was an oriole, and i don't really have a history of doing anything like that on these forums anyway, so thanks for accusing me of that just because i'm an orioles fan or something. but anyway

the point of that post wasn't really to compare brady anderson and roger maris so much as point out the fact that you're using one year of data (and brady anderson) on andruw jones to support the idea that you think he could've been on steroids when his surge in power that year wasn't even as significant as what happened with roger maris in 1961. you even straight up said maris saw a 60% increase from his previous totals, which is higher than jones', but that's somehow acceptable while there's reason to be dubious of jones.

roger maris' 1961 season is statistically likely to be repeated about once every 20 years, and andruw jones didn't even match that level of performance, yet somehow it's fitting to invoke brady anderson when referring to him when you wouldn't do it for other players across history. and going from a 20 home run hitter to a 50 home run hitter can't be explained away by steroids. i don't care if brady anderson's name was john smith and he played for the royals instead of the orioles. i'd say the same thing.

stop being such a sensitive cunt any time i mention that you might be wrong or that your opinion is flawed. it's just the wolf web.

[Edited on December 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM. Reason : .]

12/27/2012 11:57:24 AM

hey pal.

go back to your 2013 orioles thread. oh, wait...

12/27/2012 1:19:51 PM

^^ Okay I guess I should have said that Andruw had a Roger Maris type year except that I mainly remembered Brady Anderson as another guy who unexpectedly hit 50 HRs in the steroid era. I don't like comparing guys who were clean with the steroid guys of the 90s and 2000s.

Either way you are an insufferable cunt when it comes to anything that has to do with baseball.

As for the Braves, adding another LF would be nice. I assume that they'll go with a Reed Johnson/Prado platoon and mix in Prado at 3B with Francisco to maximize matchups with Prado playing every day of course.

12/27/2012 2:29:50 PM

I think you're right. at least for the first portion of the season - Prado will be in a double platoon situation. I'm not sure "the right guy" is out there right now, but I'm under the impression we are still under budget. Maybe they will hold onto that flexibility until mid-season when we trade for someone and can take a contract.

but that sucks for Prado, not knowing when or where you'll be playing. It's great for the team to have a player that can do anything but play pitcher or catcher (hey-ooooooo)

12/27/2012 2:42:56 PM

^^ just sayin dude, you point to steroids any time it's convenient for you when you have no reason to do so. and as much as you enjoy calling me a cunt, at least when someone disagrees with me i don't regularly resort to "fuck you," "fuck off," and calling people cunts when they disagree with me (except in my last post where i was mocking your calling me a cunt)

and apparently this has pissed a few people off



probably not a good idea to go through with that design

[Edited on December 27, 2012 at 4:51 PM. Reason : .]

12/27/2012 4:39:10 PM

that doesn't look bad.

plus, the "Old" looks like the spring training cap. if that is the purpose of the new cap, then who gives a shit. it's a practice hat.

12/27/2012 10:51:18 PM

No one is pissed off, rat poop. You just misread the reddit thread.

12/27/2012 10:56:58 PM

Chief noc a homa looks like he's in mid sneeze.

12/27/2012 11:07:01 PM

I mean, they WERE indians, right? didn't they refer to their warriors as Braves? and isn't that what they looked like? I fail to see any type of insensitivity re: that logo.

I mean, it's not like it's black face. c'mon pussies.

12/27/2012 11:12:20 PM

Have you seen an Indians hat b. stick with the roll tide A

12/27/2012 11:27:01 PM

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"No one is pissed off, rat poop. You just misread the reddit thread."

or didn't even know there was a reddit thread? but thanks for chiming in with one of those posts of yours that you think are so snarky and clever

i don't give a shit about the hat, but you have to figure some dipshit is going to see that and be like "omg racism" and make a thing out of it, so you'd think someone in that organization would say "hey guys, maybe this isn't such a good idea because we're probably gonna catch shit for it." and apparently people are flinging poo around on reddit, so

[Edited on December 28, 2012 at 1:22 AM. Reason : .]

12/28/2012 1:02:04 AM

I like both of those hats. Screw people who get all up in arms about team mascots. Damn whiny ass liberals. If it weren't for teams like Florida State, most people would have never even heard of the Seminole tribe.

12/28/2012 8:52:55 AM

J. Upton trade rumors heating back up

1/23/2013 4:57:21 PM

its official, you got JUpton

Quote :

" CBS Sports' Jon Heyman reports that the Diamondbacks and Braves have "agreed to" the players involved in a blockbuster trade that centers around Justin Upton. MLB.com's Mark Bowman says the Braves will receive Upton and Chris Johnson in exchange for Martin Prado, Randall Delgado, Nick Ahmed, Zeke Spruill and Brandon Drury."

[Edited on January 24, 2013 at 10:28 AM. Reason : asd]

1/24/2013 10:27:40 AM

losing Prado. Do Not Like


but his FA value would be so high after this year. ,/]

1/24/2013 10:36:00 AM

FUCK

[Edited on January 24, 2013 at 10:53 AM. Reason : FUCK]

1/24/2013 10:52:18 AM

Fuck Frank Wren. Dude is a moron. Upton for Prado and Delgado would have been pushing it, but to throw in three more minor leaguers as well is fucking retarded.

How the hell do you trade Prado period? I guess Juan Francisco is the 3B now? Who cares if Prado is a FA after this season, dude is the most valuable player on the team and we got rid of him. Fuck this shit...

1/24/2013 11:17:32 AM

doesnt Chris Johnson play 3rd? He's not a bad player

1/24/2013 11:21:56 AM

FUCK

1/24/2013 11:30:21 AM

If Wren trades Jason for Kate Upton to create an all Upton all the time outfield, this may be okay.

In the meantime

FUCK

1/24/2013 11:31:22 AM

^^^ Yes he does play 3B, but guy is more of role player than an every day option. I guess the Braves will make this out by saying they got two everyday starters in return for one, but that is weak. Wren sucks at trades. Prado will tear shit up playing in Arizona's hitter friendly park.

Fuck off Frank Wren...

1/24/2013 11:35:33 AM

it's funny to see the reactions to this trade being at different ends of the spectrum


i'm getting texts of OMG best trade ever, then reading the OMG worst trade ever reactions here. I'm currently in the middle to not approving side of things. Prado was my second favorite Brave after chipper, first going into the season.

1/24/2013 11:52:10 AM

This was a great trade for the long term. Prado wasn't going to be a Brave in 2014.

1/24/2013 12:14:01 PM

fun fact...new 3B played at Stetson in Deland Fl...home of Chipper.

i'm all for this trade....not everyday you can have Justin Upton

[Edited on January 24, 2013 at 2:22 PM. Reason : asdf]

1/24/2013 1:56:18 PM

This is a great trade for the Braves. Prado is great, and it sucks to lose him, but it appears that 2013 was likely to be his last season in Atlanta. It strikes me as more than a coincidence that Prado was moved after he and Atlanta couldn't agree to terms and looked like arbitration was going to happen (the first time in like 10 or 15 years, right???)....

Talking Chop has a blog post today about Prado's value. Going rate these days is $4.5-5 million per WAR (Prado is around 2.5), so he'd get upwards of $15M/yr, plus given the fact that he can play positions of scarcity, he could get $17M/yr.

So do you want 2013 Prado at $11M, plus 4 more years at $16M/yr (just going with reasonable numbers there) or do you want JUp at $9M this year plus two more years at $13M-ish/yr.

Of course, we gave up Delgado and Spruill as well, but Atlanta has pitching depth as usual. I liked Ahmed's potential, and I don't even know who Drury is, but in the end, the top prospect that Atlanta parted with was their #9, so they held onto ALL their top prospects in this deal. And we got a good 3B to platoon LH/RH with Francisco.

Also think, we almost agreed to send Delgado to Chicago for whats his face Ryan Dumpster, that shit was a terrible deal, and I'm glad we were able to use Randall for something good, like JUp.

1/24/2013 5:08:40 PM

finally a good move by the braves this offseason

complete trade rape of the diamondbacks

1/24/2013 5:12:04 PM

You cannot evaluate this trade that quickly to say it was good or bad. I hate the trade simply because Prado is my favorite player and is irreplaceable with his ability to play every position except C and P. I also think Delgado still has #2 starter potential, but now he'll rot away in Arizona.

If Justin Upton plays like he did two years ago, then yes this might be a good trade. If he plays like he did last year, then most likely this was a bad trade. I'm hoping the brothers playing together will help both of them reach their potential. Most likely BJ just pulls Justin down to his level and they both become .700 OPS guys that strike out 150 times while hitting 20 HRs and getting 20 SBs so people think they are special.

1/24/2013 5:40:12 PM

Delgado is never going to be better than a back of the rotation guy (even if he stayed with ATL)

Prado is 30 and has 1 year left on his contract

the prospects that were given up are unremarkable


I'd do this trade all day, every day and 2 times on sunday. Chris Johnson will be serviceable for a year

1/24/2013 5:44:27 PM

1/24/2013 6:16:38 PM

^

1/24/2013 7:51:34 PM

Playing infield fly depth it appears

1/24/2013 8:20:59 PM

Lol

1/25/2013 8:37:41 PM

1/30/2013 9:02:44 AM

maybe this will help you feel better Ernie:

http://baseball.blogdig.net/archives/articles/January2013/28/VIDEO__New_Braves_Outfielder_Justin_Upton_Hits_Some_Monster_Home_Runs.html

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=24414723&c_id=mlb

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=24609089&c_id=mlb

1/30/2013 9:10:22 AM

http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/baseball/q-and-braves-manager-fredi-gonzalez/nWGSj/

2/5/2013 1:52:55 PM

Prado was the fucking man.

2/5/2013 8:00:51 PM

Otis! My man!

2/12/2013 10:48:11 AM

I am too ready for Braves baseball.

2/12/2013 10:51:39 AM

We need to sign Kate Upton to play right field.

2/12/2013 10:51:51 AM

Saw an article talking about how this Braves team could challenge the Dbacks record for the most strikeouts by any team in history. Let's project:

1. Simmons - 100-120 Ks
2. BJ Upton - 160 Ks
3. Heyward - 120 Ks
4. McCann - 100 Ks
5. Justin Upton - 140 Ks
6. FFF - 120 Ks
7. StrUggla - 170 Ks
8. Johnson/Francisco - 150 Ks
9. Pitchers/Pinch Hitters - 200 Ks

Plus you get bench guys and their Ks and the Braves could be pushing 1500 Ks this season. I am doing this without actually looking up the stats too so I am probably conservative on some of the guys. This will be like the Braves lineups of old that basically won with the HR and good pitching. Too bad we don't have Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz heading the rotation.


[Edited on February 20, 2013 at 10:28 AM. Reason : cv]

2/20/2013 10:15:20 AM

Expect plenty of this



For one of these

2/20/2013 11:01:21 AM

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"Six Braves pitchers held the Tigers hitless through seven innings before surrendering two eighth-inning runs in the Spring Training opener"

WAY TO GO RYAN BUTCHER WHOEVER YOU ARE

2/22/2013 3:43:15 PM