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dude are you still upset over this? L E L

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

[Edited on November 16, 2012 at 12:08 PM. Reason : so mad you had to come back and troll someone the next day. l a l]

11/16/2012 12:08:19 PM

Of course, lol.

11/16/2012 12:08:58 PM

Another example of union shitheadedness, courtesy of Hurricane Sandy. Heard this one from a relative in Jersey.

So a few days after the storm, hundreds of thousands in northern NJ were still without power. The power crews were working overtime. Of course, crews from many other states headed north to help out. So a convoy from somewhere in the south--Alabama maybe?--gets directed to northern NJ. When they get there to *volunteer* their services, the crews from NJ immediately file a complaint. The union boss tells the volunteer crews that they can't work in that region because they're not unionized. Even though they weren't going to be paid, they still were told to leave because the contracts with the power companies say non-union workers cannot under any circumstances work on the power infrastructure. So the volunteer crews left and went somewhere their services were wanted, and many people in the region (my aunt being one of them) were without power for something like 10 days.

Enough to make your blood boil.

11/16/2012 1:42:17 PM

in the follow-up to that mostly-rumor news story the utility compnany said they could use any help offered and while some people might have complained the contractors from Alabama weren't turned away

11/16/2012 1:45:52 PM

nah, let's just hate unions because the election's over and we have no one else to hate at the moment

besides, unions only exist to rape children

11/16/2012 1:48:25 PM

12/1/2012 8:01:48 PM

^ if they didn't want to be $20/hour workers, they should have been CEOs

12/1/2012 8:08:36 PM

My heart bleeds for people making 40k per year to watch the twinkie machine run.

12/1/2012 8:46:14 PM

im sure they had an amphitheather where people were paid to watch this machine

12/1/2012 8:53:45 PM

Ahh yes, the baker's union, you know because every fucking twinkie was lovingly baked by a grandma, not cranked out by large batch machines on an assembly line.

Sorry, but it's unskilled labor that could literally be done by anyone with about a day of training. I don't feel bad for the company for going under, or for unionized employees losing their jobs.

It's sort of like cashiers being unionized. You have no leverage without any actual skill. It's laughable that they threaten with strikes like they're irreplaceable.

12/1/2012 8:58:04 PM

Sounds like being a CEO at Hostess required less skill than being a baker.

[Edited on December 1, 2012 at 9:15 PM. Reason : .]

12/1/2012 9:15:27 PM

I mean, they certainly did a shit job, I don't think anyone would argue differently.

12/1/2012 9:17:20 PM

I think we can all agree that Hostess was mismanaged. That said, when the Teamsters publicly state that the Bakers Union leadership misled their members and their actions drove the company to liquidate, you should probably listen.

http://www.teamster.org/content/teamsters-bakery-workers-should-hold-secret-ballot-vote-hostess

Quote :

"Teamster Hostess members were allowed to decide their fate by voting on the final offer conducted by a secret mail ballot. More than two-thirds of Hostess Teamsters members voted with 53 percent voting to approve the final offer. The BCTGM [Bakers Union] chose a different path, as is their prerogative, to not substantively look for a solution or engage in the process. BCTGM members were told there were better solutions than the final offer, although Judge Drain stated in his decision in bankruptcy court that no such solutions exist. Without complete information, BCTGM members voted by voice votes in union halls. The BCTGM reported that over 90 percent rejected the final offer and three of its units ratified the final offer. On Friday, Nov. 9, the BCTGM began to strike at some Hostess production facilities without notice to the Teamsters despite assurances they would not proceed with job actions without contacting the Teamsters Union. This unannounced action put Teamster members in the difficult position of facing picket lines without knowing their right to honor such a line without being disciplined. As is our longstanding tradition, Teamster members by and large are honoring Bakery Worker picket lines when encountered and complying with their contractual obligations when not encountering picket lines. The BCTGM leaders are putting Teamster members in a horrible position – asking them to support a strike that will put them out of a job when they haven’t even asked all their members to go on strike. That strike is now on the verge of forcing the company to liquidate – it is difficult for Teamster members to believe that is what the BCTGM Hostess members ultimately wanted to accomplish when they went out on strike. We may never know unless the BCTGM members, based on the facts they know today, get to determine their fate in a secret ballot vote. Teamster members would understand that the will of the BCTGM Hostess membership was truly heard if that was the case."

[Edited on December 1, 2012 at 9:50 PM. Reason : 2]

12/1/2012 9:46:49 PM

should have licensed out the Twinkie brand

people would have bought Twinkie flavored vodka and maybe even a Ben & Jerry's flavor

12/2/2012 2:42:25 AM

i read this as "unicorns killed twinkies"

needless to say, i was disappointed

12/2/2012 2:45:32 AM

12/2/2012 7:38:24 AM

Since we're bringing up old stuff....

12/2/2012 9:42:37 AM

God I want a coconut zinger.


Not that my ass needs it or anything.

12/2/2012 11:34:09 AM

Unions!

12/2/2012 12:34:07 PM

Quote :

"^ if they didn't want to be $20/hour workers, they should have been CEOs"

12/2/2012 2:41:00 PM

12/5/2012 8:45:06 AM