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"[He was very likely joking about fearing rape]"

okay, based of how i've heard plenty of blacks talk about white people, i don't completely buy it -- but there is no evidence here that he wasn't just joking around...

BUT, I am a man of my word... he DID say it, but I can't be sure he meant it.

SO, fair enough, I'll concede that point. He was likely just nervously joking around cause the rent-a-cop was following him around.

That brings me back to my original claim... we have 2 people here, both of them have used racial slurs. only one appears to be racist. i don't get it!

6/26/2013 11:45:04 PM

^^^We've touched on specific things repeatedly.

Here have a link i guess

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/19/paula-deen-racist-comments-n-word-caught-on-video_n_3467287.html

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"She also allegedly describes her interest in hiring black waiters dressed to look like "slaves" at a wedding."

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"okay, based of how i've heard plenty of blacks talk about white people"

You've heard "plenty" of black teens legitimately fear rape from white people?

[Edited on June 26, 2013 at 11:47 PM. Reason : .]

6/26/2013 11:45:10 PM

6/26/2013 11:48:30 PM

6/26/2013 11:49:19 PM

yup. according to jackleg she and trayvon did the same exact thing.

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6/26/2013 11:51:00 PM

Plott Hounds are lame mane. Golden Retrievers are way more trippy.

6/26/2013 11:51:06 PM

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"I provided your own words in that same post. They shouldn't be that hard for you understand...you know, being that you said them. Additionally others have made the same point as myself. This isn't rocket science."

Okay, so these are the 3 things you sent me back "in my own words." I will once again take the time to try to explain myself, although I have no idea why I'm trying to have a grown man conversation with some guy who insists on acting like an 8th grader with asperger's.

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"ha ha not that I know of... but if you go back and look, that wasn't something I claimed"

This means that I never made the claim you are accusing me of

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"it doesn't change the fact that he did the same thing that Paula Deen did"

They both made racial slurs. Simple as that.

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"The slave thing is just silly, I've never heard that before."

I said that because you were accusing me of calling some slave comment a fact. I said I had never heard of it before because I hadn't. You were referring to a post by someone else.


Now, like I said before... I know you're an angry little troll type, and I've given you tons of leeway. Now that I've gone back to re-answer you like 3 times now, I'm done. While I really do want us to leave this thread understanding what each other are saying, I will not reply to any more quoteboxes from you with my own words and no new questions.

If you are still confused and need one-on-one help, please PM me and we will either talk there or over AIM, skype, gTalk, or text message.

6/26/2013 11:51:28 PM

df

6/26/2013 11:52:11 PM

Them Plot hound mugs tree bears mane, respect



[Edited on June 26, 2013 at 11:57 PM. Reason : Nahmean?]

6/26/2013 11:53:24 PM

6/26/2013 11:54:26 PM

6/26/2013 11:55:11 PM

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"If you are still confused and need one-on-one help, please PM me and we will either talk there or over AIM, skype, gTalk, or text message."

The trademark of a troll post. Keep on putting that out there. It's not at all obvious. Perhaps I'll make you a mixtape with my responses and carrier pigeon that mug to you. Should arrive in the next fortnight or so.

6/26/2013 11:55:12 PM

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"They both made racial slurs. Simple as that. "

It's not a binary system where those who've made a racial slur are in one camp and those who haven't are in another.

There are varying degrees of racism.

Trayvon and Paula did not "do the same thing" and the lopsided media coverage you refer to reflects that.

[Edited on June 26, 2013 at 11:57 PM. Reason : .]

6/26/2013 11:56:50 PM

yeah paula deen didnt get into to a violent fight

6/26/2013 11:58:10 PM

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"^^^We've touched on specific things repeatedly. Here have a link i guess http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/19/paula-deen-racist-comments-n-word-caught-on-video_n_3467287.html She also allegedly describes her interest in hiring black waiters dressed to look like "slaves" at a wedding."

Ah, I've never read that. I don't really like HPost, and I wasn't involved in any threads here lately where it may have come up... so, nah, this is the first I've seen it. I'll read the article in a bit.

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"You've heard "plenty" of black teens legitimately fear rape from white people?"

no, not necessarily that they FEAR rape from whites, and not ALWAYS teens... I never said I heard black people say they feared rape from a cracker.

But, yes, I have heard PLENTY of black folks over the years aged between 16 and 35 say that child rapists and pedophiles are almost exclusively white, and I've heard many say there are no white serial killers or arsonists... enough to which I'd say that there's definitely a stereotype among those folks.

6/26/2013 11:58:55 PM

6/26/2013 11:59:06 PM

6/27/2013 12:00:06 AM

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"yeah paula deen didnt get into to a violent fight"

paula deen wasn't stalked by a creepy cracker

6/27/2013 12:00:35 AM

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6/27/2013 12:01:39 AM

Did jackleg share his TWW credentials with drunknloaded????

That's the only other scenario here.

6/27/2013 12:01:58 AM

^^^that mug looks like a leopard dog, dawg

[Edited on June 27, 2013 at 12:02 AM. Reason : .]

6/27/2013 12:02:12 AM

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"The trademark of a troll post. Keep on putting that out there. It's not at all obvious. Perhaps I'll make you a mixtape with my responses and carrier pigeon that mug to you. Should arrive in the next fortnight or so"

When I give honest and coherent answers, and you keep pretending you don't understand, that makes you the troll. At first I thought maybe your questions and points were getting mixed up in all the quote boxes and other posts, but I guess not.

Either way, it appears that you're gonna just keep pretending that I am avoiding your question. As long as you know that I would LOVE to help you understand what I mean, and that I'd be glad to sit down with you one-on-one and answer any and all questions you have, without other distractions, then that's all I can do.

The offer is still open. Otherwise, I guess you were just trolling. That sucks, I really wanted to answer you. I hate that you're gonna think I'm too dumb to talk to just because you seem to be afraid to ask the questions in a straightforward way

6/27/2013 12:03:07 AM

LOL@ this mug Bweez sweatin' my nuts and jocking my style mane...lame mane.

6/27/2013 12:03:13 AM

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"But, yes, I have heard PLENTY of black folks over the years aged between 16 and 35 say that child rapists and pedophiles are almost exclusively white, and I've heard many say there are no white serial killers or arsonists... enough to which I'd say that there's definitely a stereotype among those folks"

Must be DNL

6/27/2013 12:03:56 AM

6/27/2013 12:04:45 AM

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"I'd be glad to sit down with you one-on-one and answer any and all questions you have, without other distractions, then that's all I can do."

you think you're tough? Then come say the shit you said about me and my friends on TWW to our faces

Can't wait to see your bitch ass crying when you get taken out

6/27/2013 12:05:31 AM

6/27/2013 12:06:28 AM

I realize this thread is about Paula Deen....which I am not. Hear me out, maybe I can offer some insight.

I am in outside sales, which is currently salary+commission, but will move into straight commission starting at the beginning of July 2010. I have been in this position since July 2009. I have competition from several direct manufacturing sales reps, large distributors, and local distributors. Here are the advantages and disadvantages of each:

Direct Advantages: Immediate knowledge of new technology, no middle man mark up, one shipping bill (paid by manufacturer or buyer of goods), access to larger range of non-commodity items, control inventory, have access to many distributors that can effectively sell their goods which increases market share, and set prices of commodity they manufacture.

Direct disadvantages: Typically have 1-3 sales reps per region (i.e. southeast, mid-atlantic, northeast, etc.) limiting the number of accounts they can successfully manage/cold-call, lack physical customer service or physical technical service available to or affordable for smaller users or altogether, are sometimes not trustworthy because they will go in behind their distributors that sell their commodity to one account in large quantities (i.e. they missed a big account, and have found out about it through a distributor selling their particular product) which leads to the distributor not selling their product anymore, have too many distributors selling the product ultimately driving the set price down through deviations, possibly rely on distributors to actually sell the product, and competition from other direct sources.

Large distributor advantages: have access to other commodities that go hand in hand with other manufacturers (poor example- grocery stores sell milk as well as cereal), get direct pricing, many locations regionally or nationally easing the shipping burden of buyers with multiple locations, personal service either customer or technical, many sales reps that are able to cover a broader territory, access to multiple manufacturers of the same commodity allowing to keep prices in check, service programs that smaller companies can't offer and direct providers can't match in price or value, and experts of many many commodities as opposed to one or a few.

Large distributor disadvantages: smaller local distributors creating price wars (think Michael Scott Paper Co vs Dunder-Mifflin), direct mfg's going in behind and stealing business, limited access to all of the mfg's (you won't find Harris Teeter name brands in Food Lion and visa versa), can't truly set prices because it's based on both supply and demand, territory management, and tough growth prospects in slower economies (this is true for direct as well really)

Local distributor advantages: Typically a good ol' boy setting where the seller and the buyer know each other for years (this does happen at all levels, but mostly at the local level), local folks are right down the street and can be used in emergencies, if the local guy buys at high enough volumes then there is no shipping charge to the end user, and access to both direct mfg's and large distributors.

Local distributor disadvantages: easily beaten in price, array of commodities, array of technology, lack of trained staff, low cash flow, etc etc etc.

This is what I have noticed in my six months, I am sure there are plenty more that need mentioning. The way I am setting myself apart as a sales person is this: I go after the big accounts right now while I am new. The big accounts, if I land them, will take care of me while I am new and building a customer base. The money made off of those allows me to focus free time on smaller accounts that get me higher margins. I build up big accounts, I would like to have 5-10 of these, then get 20-30 medium accounts. If I lose 1 or 2 big accounts, the 20-30 medium accounts keep me afloat while I go after new big accounts. I don't really waste time on small accounts simply because they basically pay for breakfast or something really small.

I will say this, if you can't get a big account in the first 6-8 months (assuming you have cash flow that you can ride this long) you could be in a world of trouble. If you can get one, it will really make going after the others a lot more enjoyable and less stressful. It's simply just very exhausting wasting any time on anything other than big accounts in the very beginning. You work just as hard on the medium sized accounts and see 1/3 to 1/36 of the money in my situation.

If you have any other questions, you can PM me. I hope this helps in the slightest!

6/27/2013 12:06:51 AM

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"yeah paula deen didnt get into to a violent fight"

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"paula deen wasn't stalked by a creepy cracker"

no shit, assholes.

paula deen used racial slurs

trayvon martin used racial slurs

that's about as far as I was going with it. nothing extra to complicate it.

if CNN calls Deen a racist for using slurs, they should do the same to Martin. That's all I'm saying. If you can't get it when it's put in front of you that simply, I can't help you.

I'm not talking about what I think here.... and i think that's why some folks are being rude to me. I don't think Martin was a bad kid for using racial slurs. I surely don't think he "had it coming" or whatever some of you implied.

6/27/2013 12:07:45 AM

6/27/2013 12:09:54 AM

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"LOL@ this mug Bweez sweatin' my nuts and jocking my style mane...lame mane."

LOL

U mad.

6/27/2013 12:10:29 AM

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"Must be DNL"

ha

nope, it's just that unlike most of the Trayvon / cause of the month supporters out there... I actually have a lot of black friends, and have lived with a bunch of black guys. So between all those people I know, plus the people I met through them, I really did hear that a lot.

DNL only has one black friend, just for an excuse to say racist shit. lol

6/27/2013 12:12:21 AM

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"if CNN calls Deen a racist for using slurs, they should do the same to Martin. That's all I'm saying. If you can't get it when it's put in front of you that simply, I can't help you. "

If everyone who has ever uttered a racial slur is in the same category and if we're going to completely ignore the context in which said slurs were uttered I guess Quentin Tarantino is essentially the same as a Klansman.

[Edited on June 27, 2013 at 12:13 AM. Reason : .]

6/27/2013 12:12:43 AM

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"If everyone who has ever uttered a racial slur is in the same category and if we're going to completely ignore the context in which said slurs were uttered I guess Quentin Tarantino is essentially the same as a Klansman"

Hey go fuck yourself with your logic.

drunknloaded is trying to troll up in here.

6/27/2013 12:14:59 AM

Zero tolerance

6/27/2013 12:17:16 AM

6/27/2013 12:18:18 AM

6 degrees of /thread?

6/27/2013 12:20:24 AM

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"If everyone who has ever uttered a single racist slur is in the same category and if we're going to completely ignore the context in which said slurs were uttered I guess Quentin Tarantino is essentially the same as a Klansman."

Hell, maybe I read the wrong deposition, but apparantly she said that while talking to her husband after being robbed at gunpoint, she called the guy a nigger. She also admitted to using the word back in the 60's (when she couldn't have been more than 17 or so at the most in 1969) and that she hadn't used it again.

As for Martin's documented use, he said it twice in one phone call, possibly pissed because a white guy was following him.

Both of them used it while they were pissed. You've gotta remember, I never said that either of them was racist. All I said was that Deen got CRUCIFIED in the media for saying the word a couple of times, ending 43+ years ago, while martin is still a posterboy for a great kid when he used the word a couple of times as well.

I'm not trying to sit here and say one use was better than another, or that EITHER of them are excused for using racial slurs during times of high stress. I'm simply saying that I think that if they're gonna try to ruin Deen's reputation, why is Martin off limits when he did the exact same thing (and yes it was the same thing. A couple of tiny racial slurs).

I don't plan on boycotting Paula Deen (even though I doubt I buy her stuff anyways), and I don't plan on feeling any different about Martin now that I know this. I just asked a question, and I'm being attacked like I'm over here saying they should drop the charges on Zimmerman or something. I think both of them should be left alone (and in peace!!!1)

6/27/2013 12:20:41 AM

6/27/2013 12:20:51 AM

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"Hell, maybe I read the wrong deposition, but apparantly she said that while talking to her husband after being robbed at gunpoint, she called the guy a nigger. She also admitted to using the word back in the 60's (when she couldn't have been more than 17 or so at the most in 1969) and that she hadn't used it again."

You keep omitting the slave party.

And she didn't say she hadn't used it again. It seems as though it's ingrained in her speech such that she doesn't consider it offensive and doesn't remember specific instances.

[Edited on June 27, 2013 at 12:25 AM. Reason : .]

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6/27/2013 12:27:34 AM

^^^^ nice red X. that mug is mad convincing mane.

6/27/2013 12:27:36 AM

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6/27/2013 12:28:05 AM

Plott Hounds are the tits mane

6/27/2013 12:30:10 AM