no gun nuts are people, all of you are like Alex Jones

9/16/2013 2:59:43 PM

What's more important is which side is more rabid.

[Edited on September 16, 2013 at 3:00 PM. Reason : ^dont give up yet buddy, almost there]

9/16/2013 2:59:59 PM

gun nuts.

9/16/2013 3:00:15 PM

http://www.mugshotsonline.com/texas/fort-worth/aaron-alexis/45611151

9/16/2013 3:00:22 PM

well god damn, he isn't white. i wasn't expecting that.

9/16/2013 3:00:56 PM

found it in another forum - no clue if that's the dude.

9/16/2013 3:01:22 PM

Quote :

"only people i've seen say anything about gun control on my facebook feed and on tww are people like d357r0y3r saying things like Rev up the gun control talking points guys. Remember, it's never too soon to start the "national dialogue". It's like they're trying to prompt people to say it, so they can then say "I told you so!""

its so fun to criticize people for doing what you are doing exactly when you criticize them!

9/16/2013 3:02:51 PM

Gee whiz, there are idiots on BOTH sides!

9/16/2013 3:05:02 PM

"but what are these people going to do who don't have their keys or phones"

uh, probably find a ride home. i don't think letting people back into buildings to get keys is a high priority for police.

-Nats game is canceled

-Evidence now pointing to a single gunman.

[Edited on September 16, 2013 at 3:10 PM. Reason : .]

9/16/2013 3:09:35 PM

Quote :

"find one before 8:39 and acknowledge that you did it too while at the same time criticizing them for it"

Not going to rake through a Reddit comment section, but I haven't said made any gun control arguments today. So, no, I didn't lose and I didn't win, because I haven't played.

Edit: Okay, I'll bite: http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1mhxhk/active_shooter_sought_at_washington_dc_navy_yard/?sort=old

Second comment in the mega thread was pro-gun control.

Why are you bullshitting? You know what this always devolves into. If there is a shooting, there will be a gun control debate. Period. It doesn't matter what side you're on, that's simply what happens.

[Edited on September 16, 2013 at 3:12 PM. Reason : ]

9/16/2013 3:10:47 PM

your post was exactly what you are criticizing others for, idiot



the bad thing about this being one gunman is that now the conspiracy theories start. alex jones will have a post about what happened to the other gunman. geniusxboy will read that post and offer free pizza to anyone with information.

9/16/2013 3:12:37 PM

Seriously, the time we got locked down over here due to a shooter running around and taking hostages the police pretty much came and said lock your doors and stay in the building until we come by and say its ok. We dont care if you want to eat lunch or go home on time, tough shit.

9/16/2013 3:12:51 PM

Well if the black guy posted earlier is indeed the [sole] perpetrator we can rule out any racial motive.

[Edited on September 16, 2013 at 3:14 PM. Reason : -]

9/16/2013 3:13:32 PM

"all of the reports are about rapid gunfire, which is how we reach the conclusion that it was a semi-automatic weapon"

i'm glad that they had all that evidence to decide that it was the kind of gun that most guns are

9/16/2013 3:16:42 PM

Countdown till we know it's an AR.

9/16/2013 3:18:40 PM

Alex Jones has really fallen off from a couple years ago when he was backing up Lorenzo Brown

9/16/2013 3:19:57 PM

one of the guns he used he took from a security guard, a handgun probably 9mm. he then waited to ambush the first responders.

9/16/2013 3:20:14 PM

the local news morons were reporting the gun was an AR-15 by about 9:15 this morning.

9/16/2013 3:22:02 PM

that's what a witness reported

witnesses reported that he had a shotgun and AR style rifle, he then shot a guard and took their handgun

[Edited on September 16, 2013 at 3:24 PM. Reason : apparently it is the guy posted above]

9/16/2013 3:22:43 PM

Ban security guards.

9/16/2013 3:25:08 PM

It would be great if someone who is actually familiar with the Navy Yard could post. I would think that there'd be some kind of security checkpoint where it's impossible to pass through unless the guard inputs a PIN or something. The fact that this happened makes it sound like someone dropped the ball in a tragic way.

9/16/2013 3:29:37 PM

he had an access badge

9/16/2013 3:31:26 PM

They don't check/scan for guns?

9/16/2013 3:32:00 PM

Was it an assault shotgun? This matters.

9/16/2013 3:32:01 PM

You guys are thinking of this place like its a base.

It's not. Well, I mean it has the accoutrements of one from one hundred years ago. Think of it as Navy Corporate. Tons of contractors/civilians. You have to flash a badge to get in the front gate, and then do the same thing with a magnetometer in 197. Easy to drive on with hidden weapons if you really wanted, and then shoot the guard at the individual building entrance.

9/16/2013 3:32:33 PM

they don't check if they have an ID badge... at least they didn't use to.

guessing that's about to change.

9/16/2013 3:32:41 PM

Quote :

"We are told NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics BUT... We are encouraged TO judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics "

can we just stay on topic and not bring up Muslims, cars, or vaginas while discussing gun control or gun related fatalities?

9/16/2013 4:11:49 PM

But he's right tho

Cut the "stay on topic" crap

[Edited on September 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM. Reason : C]

9/16/2013 4:12:58 PM

He is not right. Limiting the ease with which it takes to get an assault weapon (or any weapon in general) is not attacking responsible gun owners by any means.

9/16/2013 4:18:29 PM

i have a 3d printer, i can print guns.

[Edited on September 16, 2013 at 4:22 PM. Reason : but yes lets get back to the actual story here. ]

9/16/2013 4:20:55 PM

9/16/2013 4:21:08 PM

damn I feel terrible hearing the stories of people basically saying that they were talking to a guy one second, and then the next second he gets shot in the head out of nowhere. Just insane that this happens. Are you all hearing these stories in the States?

9/16/2013 4:27:34 PM

wait... Washington DC has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation... how could this have happened???

(but more importantly I hope for the well being of those injured and the families of the victims)

9/16/2013 4:30:55 PM

I expected a lot more racism ITT. I'm disappointed.

9/16/2013 4:33:44 PM

apparently the dude was from Texas. He prolly just picked the gun up on the side of the road.

9/16/2013 4:34:35 PM

lol

9/16/2013 4:37:06 PM

someone must have messed with texas

9/16/2013 4:51:17 PM

It is pretty easy to obtain weapons from areas with less strict gun control and to bring them into places like DC if one is hell bent on committing a violent crime or mass murder.

9/16/2013 4:52:07 PM

omfg

9/16/2013 4:52:46 PM

Is the black gunman from Oogaboogastan?

9/16/2013 5:34:24 PM

I really think that at this point, the focus should be on the victims and the events of this morning.... Instead of any political twists or agendas.

9/16/2013 5:41:51 PM

nah, we'll give the criminal the attention he wanted

9/16/2013 5:44:04 PM

Maybe its revenge for Trayvon Martin?

Sometimes I miss GeniusBoys conspiracy theories during tragedies

The free pizza comment earlier was good-

9/16/2013 5:44:19 PM

9/16/2013 5:44:33 PM

^^ Alex Jones is saying it was a false flag attack to distract us from Benghazi and Syria

9/16/2013 5:45:16 PM

Quote :

"I really think that at this point, the focus should be on the victims and the events of this morning.... Instead of any political twists or agendas."

I, too, would like to live in a magical world of make believe

9/16/2013 5:54:38 PM

According to the N&O the shooter was a CCW holder.

9/16/2013 6:03:12 PM

So, they're saying he used the badge of a former employee to gain access to the navy yard. I guess that addresses part of my first post ITT.

9/16/2013 6:05:31 PM

Quote :

"the gunman was a former contractor, the badge was from someone who was discharged a few days ago and they have that person in custody"

I wonder if someone from HR fucked up. Every place I've worked de-activated those badges before you were out of the building on your last day.

Of course you can always just follow another group of people into the building and pretend to flash the badge against the card reader as you go in. Nobody really pays attention. Corporate security is mostly just for show.

[Edited on September 16, 2013 at 6:14 PM. Reason : l]

9/16/2013 6:13:48 PM

^ As I mentioned above, he would only need to have flashed it at the gate guard to get on the WNY campus. If I recall, he would have had to scan or swipe it in Building 197 as he went through the magnetometer in the building lobby, but it sounds like he let the AR-15 serve as his ID at that point.

It's been a few years since I worked in 197, so I can't recall for certain about swiping, but he would have been subject to slightly more scrutiny in the building. The gate access at the entrance to the Navy Yard was always laughably lax.

9/16/2013 6:18:11 PM