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"It's annoying to get stuck behind a "slow" person in the left lane, but I'm actually more annoyed by left lane drivers who: - Think the speed limit gets bumped up by 20MPH - Think it's safe to tail gate you and then blind you with their high beams at those speeds - Think they have a right to practically run you off the road if you take more than 2 seconds to try and make a safe merge out of that lane "

So you're saying you go 20 over in the left lane and still get people tailgating you and turning on their high beams?

Tailgating = running you off of the road?

Sounds like you're that slow person camped out in the left lane. You realize it's just for passing right?

3/26/2014 9:21:07 PM

hes got a chink username, he clearly can't drive

3/26/2014 9:30:54 PM

Quote :

"So you're saying you go 20 over in the left lane and still get people tailgating you and turning on their high beams? Tailgating = running you off of the road? Sounds like you're that slow person camped out in the left lane. You realize it's just for passing right? "

What you don't realize is that there are actually people who really do follow those items I listed. Folks going 80+ in a 65 zone. Folks high beaming you as if you didn't know they were behind you.

Running you off the road = so desperate to pass you that they're half-way on the shoulder as if they want to side swipe you as soon as you give them enough room

You may not be this extreme, but believe, there are extremists out there. Call them "left lane terrorists" if you'd like. Don't get me wrong, in a 65 zone I'm a 75 kinda guy.

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"hes got a chink username, he clearly can't drive"

And you've got a Danish username, so clearly you must be a dumb blonde

[Edited on March 26, 2014 at 9:41 PM. Reason : ]

3/26/2014 9:32:42 PM

There is a point when the traffic just sucks so much when the left lane stops being only for passing, and starts being just another lane to chug along at 25-30 with the rest of the assholes.

3/26/2014 9:42:53 PM

I have it on good authority that this:


deters tailgating

3/26/2014 10:10:40 PM

Quote :

"Don't get me wrong, in a 65 zone I'm a 75 "

If you're passing at this speed, that's cool. But that's the speed most people are going, not people in the left lane.

So...if you are getting aggressive tailgaters on a regular basis, it's because you aren't passing. You're trapping people behind you, and it makes them crazy.

3/26/2014 10:22:48 PM

Quote :

"- Think the speed limit gets bumped up by 20MPH - Think it's safe to tail gate you and then blind you with their high beams at those speeds"

Doing that is a great way to get me to brake-check you and then match the speed of the guy beside me for the next 20 miles

3/27/2014 12:58:00 AM

brake checking causes a ripple that travels in the opposite direction of travel. even if the person behind you doesn't get into an accident, the ripple can last for hours.

so way to go possibly injuring or killing someone in an accident so you can make your point that you are a terrible driver!!

3/27/2014 9:05:07 AM

Alot of stupid itt. The left lane is for passing. It doesn't matter if I'm running 200 in the left lane (I'm passing) gtfo the way. Alot of you seem to have a traffic cop mentality, its not your job to regulate the speed. Speed limits are not about your safety as you seem to believe, it was originally about fuel conservation, now its for revenue.


Brake checking me on the highway, leads to me returning the favor. And trust me my brakes are better than yours.

3/27/2014 9:13:51 AM

Quote :

"What you don't realize is that there are actually people who really do follow those items I listed. Folks going 80+ in a 65 zone. Folks high beaming you as if you didn't know they were behind you. Running you off the road = so desperate to pass you that they're half-way on the shoulder as if they want to side swipe you as soon as you give them enough room You may not be this extreme, but believe, there are extremists out there. Call them "left lane terrorists" if you'd like. Don't get me wrong, in a 65 zone I'm a 75 kinda guy."

So you're the slowfuck in the left lane, knowing you shouldn't be there. You see cars coming up behind you and you still make no effort to change lanes. You continue your slow ways while cars line up behind you, making no effort to change lanes. The drivers get tired of being behind you, having amble opportunity to vacate said lane, thus flash their brights or ride the should as an additional means of informing you that you are in fact holding up traffic and not obeying the slow traffic keep right rule. In summary, take your slow driving self to another lane.

I drive a POS. Brake check me and see what happens.

[Edited on March 27, 2014 at 9:25 AM. Reason : .]

3/27/2014 9:24:06 AM

there is nothing rude about a couple quick flashes of your brights, a lot of people are in that lane because they aren't checking mirrors and just have no idea someone is behind them. flashing lights is just making them aware of you, its not rude unless you are being obnoxious about it.

its the safe way to let people know you are behind them and would like to pass, tailgating them is dangerous. from a safe 2-3 second distance, flashing lights is an indication that you would like to pass.

i usually start by putting on my left turn signal, that's all it takes for drivers who are aware of their surroundings. after a turn signal i will flash my brights if they have passed opportunities to change lanes and its obvious that they are just not aware that you are behind them.

[Edited on March 27, 2014 at 9:47 AM. Reason : .]

3/27/2014 9:44:43 AM

This isn't really a left lane complaint. But please, if I'm pulling my 20' trailer loaded down with shit, don't tailgate me. Especially when I am going the speed limit. Visibility is low and stopping/slowing down is a little more difficult when you're pulling a heavy ass trailer. Pass me or give me a little space, please.

3/27/2014 9:55:35 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XqZoaWKv2k&t=1m0s

This seemed relevant to the discussion.

[Edited on March 27, 2014 at 10:24 AM. Reason : l]

3/27/2014 10:21:17 AM

Quote :

"If you're passing at this speed, that's cool. But that's the speed most people are going, not people in the left lane. So...if you are getting aggressive tailgaters on a regular basis, it's because you aren't passing. You're trapping people behind you, and it makes them crazy."

+1

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"Doing that is a great way to get me to brake-check you and then match the speed of the guy beside me for the next 20 miles"

He doesn't do 20 over in the left lane, so he's pretty much said that's a fictional scenario.

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"the ripple can last for hours. "

hahahahahahahaha

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"So you're the slowfuck in the left lane, knowing you shouldn't be there. You see cars coming up behind you and you still make no effort to change lanes. You continue your slow ways while cars line up behind you, making no effort to change lanes. The drivers get tired of being behind you, having amble opportunity to vacate said lane, thus flash their brights or ride the should as an additional means of informing you that you are in fact holding up traffic and not obeying the slow traffic keep right rule. In summary, take your slow driving self to another lane."

+1

3/27/2014 11:01:00 AM

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"hahahahahahahaha"

?

[Edited on March 27, 2014 at 11:09 AM. Reason : it's often called a jamiton]

3/27/2014 11:08:20 AM

Is it considered rude to highbeam blast someone in the left lane if you have a match tonight?

[Edited on March 27, 2014 at 11:54 AM. Reason : while wearing cargos and delivering a jimmy johns sandwich for $2 tip?]

3/27/2014 11:52:02 AM

How about the people driving in the right lane with NO ONE in front of them that merge into your lane right before you pass them, forcing you to hit the brakes. The good thing is you can pass them on the right.

And with respect to passing on the right. It's time to merge right once the 100th person passes you on the right. Buy. A. Clue.

3/27/2014 2:42:08 PM

anyone that is in their own world while driving a car needs their head examined. I'm at my most alert behind the wheel, at any moment I can fuck up and die, or get fucked up by someone else.

People that don't speed up while on the on ramp and merge into traffic 20+ mph below the limit piss me off more than left lane zombies. They piss me off more if I'm forced to pull the same slow merge because I'm behind you on the ramp.

3/27/2014 2:46:40 PM

^^^^yeah I dunno why he's laughing - must not understand traffic flows very well. BTW everything you've posted in here is top notch.

I could write a novella on this topic but I'll just keep it short to keep everyone happy.

A quick flash of the high beams or use of the left turn signal is the proper technique to politely inform the left lane hog in front of you that you want to pass. Look it up in all the instruction booklets - it's in there! So a collective fuck you to everyone that gets offended and/or pissed off when this is done to you.

It's not a matter of who is right and who is wrong, or who is breaking the law more. If you're in the left lane (the passing lane) and you're holding up people you, and you alone, are being the instigating inconsiderate rude son of a bitch. So kindly get over and stop trying to bother other people.



[Edited on March 27, 2014 at 2:49 PM. Reason : ^^]

3/27/2014 2:48:56 PM

When I put my left turn signal on, every person that's ever been in my car says "what is that supposed to mean". Thus NC people do not know the left signal rule. I had a guy ride my ass on 440 while I was passing cars going 80, when I got space to move over he switched lanes twice behind me. He slowed down real quick when I got behind him and put my high beams on.

3/27/2014 2:51:33 PM

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"yeah I dunno why he's laughing - must not understand traffic flows very well. "

I'm sure a single brake-tap causing a multi-hour ripple effect is theoretically possible under very extreme circumstances, but I dispute the idea that it's what normally happens day-in/out during workday commuting.

3/27/2014 3:42:15 PM

it even happens in perfect conditions when everyone is doing things right, starting one with an input like slamming on brakes is even worse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Suugn-p5C1M
http://math.mit.edu/projects/traffic/

[Edited on March 27, 2014 at 4:28 PM. Reason : .]

3/27/2014 4:28:03 PM

Exactly. Given that my cars are both equipped with manual transmissions whenever possible I'll coast in gear instead of taping the brake (if the person in front of me does so). I do this in hopes that whomever is behind me won't tap their brakes either.

(nevermind that it's good practice to not excessively tap your brakes anyway)

[Edited on March 27, 2014 at 4:32 PM. Reason : l;]

3/27/2014 4:30:23 PM

Brake tappers deserve their own thread. I ended up kissing a guard rail on 95 because traffic was pretty congested and the people around me all continued tapping their brakes/panic braking. Until they didn't tap their brakes and the dumb cunt ran into a stopped car at 70+mph. Theres nothing worse than being a low car behind a panic braking suv.

3/27/2014 4:46:05 PM

soccer moms mane. they're the worst.

[Edited on March 27, 2014 at 4:47 PM. Reason : ^^^ those links don't prove your point, but whatever.]

3/27/2014 4:46:53 PM

dude, you don't even have to read anything, the youtube video demonstrates how a backup (a jamiton) travels in the opposite direction of travel and sticks around long after it is started. it's only a 39 second video.

[Edited on March 27, 2014 at 4:50 PM. Reason : .]

3/27/2014 4:49:45 PM

I also got a wreckless ticket for avoiding her and scratching my car....but thats a topic for a I HATE VA POLICE THREAD.

3/27/2014 4:50:50 PM

3/27/2014 5:00:54 PM

^dude looked like wlb420

3/27/2014 5:19:56 PM

She was wrong, and I'm sure she did something other than just go slow. Why else would she have a camera out, I bet the cunt provoked it,

3/27/2014 6:17:52 PM

I never got an answer to my question! I'm genuinely curious of what you folks think

Quote :

"if I'm breaking the law by driving the speed limit in the left lane, but you're breaking the law by driving 85+ in a 75, who's breaking the law more???"

3/27/2014 8:30:01 PM

the problem is 98% of the driving public are flat out morons. i work in the dot ops center with all the traffic cameras, i see the shit all day long. its not that there are large groups of speed limit in the left lane nazis, its just that people suck at driiving, pay no attention to their surroundings, and generally dont even know what road they are on.

and yes, the brake tapping ripple does last for quite a while after the first person does it.

3/27/2014 8:43:51 PM

all the more reason to message_topic.aspx?topic=602613

3/27/2014 8:54:29 PM

I wish people would learn to film with their phones horizontally.

3/27/2014 9:01:10 PM

Quote :

"if im going 80, and I get over, the 85 guy will hopefully get over for the 90 guy behind him when he gets a chance, but if there isn't enough room to do it without slowing down, the 90 guy just has to wait a little longer"

this

3/27/2014 9:04:20 PM

Quote :

"and yes, the brake tapping ripple does last for quite a while after the first person does it. "

The ripple lasts for hours? Are you really backing that up?

^ That's not a standard scenario. The standard scenario is someone going 80 while behind someone going 60, in a 60, in the left fucking lane, passing nobody.

3/27/2014 11:55:46 PM

It last a few hours in cities during high traffic. fucking ripple. you know its a brake ripple when theres a huge traffic jam, no accident and then it suddenly speeds up before you are out of the high traffic area.

3/28/2014 12:07:55 AM

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"I am perfectly fine with NC following suit of whichever state it was (GA?) that passed the law making it a fineable offense to ride in the left lane"

3/28/2014 12:28:23 AM

In a perfect world...

3/28/2014 12:28:59 AM

Its not about who is breaking the law, its about who is safer. The speeder is safer than the left lane blocked.

3/28/2014 7:01:34 AM

Quote :

"if I'm breaking the law by driving the speed limit in the left lane, but you're breaking the law by driving 85+ in a 75, who's breaking the law more???"

I imagine a cop is more likely to pull someone over for going 10+ mph over the speed limit than they are to pull someone over for blocking traffic in the left lane, so I'll go with speeding.

3/28/2014 7:17:45 AM

blocking the left lane isn't illegal unless you are under the speed limit in NC, so they couldn't pull you over. and that has nothing to do with which is safer.

3/28/2014 8:39:25 AM

I'll stop driving the speedlimit in the left lane, when it's socially cool to stop tipping.

3/28/2014 8:49:20 AM

If you are going the speed limit, why cant you do it in the right lane with everyone else? I'll never understand the "traffic cop" mentality some people have. I guess you feel safe to be a asshole in your car.

3/28/2014 10:29:44 AM

keep right except to pass

/thread

3/28/2014 10:36:55 AM

Nope, drafting leads to rock chips on my bumper. Everyone stay right and let me have clean air.

3/28/2014 10:50:16 AM

nvm, already posted above...

Funny stuff. She was being a douche for not moving over, but his doucheness caused him to wreck. Lesson: It never pays to be a douche.

That should've been my argument to begin with. Respecting others is the best rule. While in the left lane, if someone is coming up on your tail, and you have room to move over, be respectful and let them pass. And if you are the one going fast, don't tail gate or make dangerous and disrespectful moves while doing so.

[Edited on March 28, 2014 at 1:26 PM. Reason : edit]

3/28/2014 1:13:13 PM

Already embedded that above mane.

3/28/2014 1:13:53 PM

scroll up

3/28/2014 1:14:04 PM

I <3 Robin Meade. They showed that video on Morning Express today and after the video was over she said that the woman had no business being in the left lane driving that slowly.

Robin Meade.

Quote :

"if I'm breaking the law by driving the speed limit in the left lane, but you're breaking the law by driving 85+ in a 75, who's breaking the law more???if I'm breaking the law by driving the speed limit in the left lane, but you're breaking the law by driving 85+ in a 75, who's breaking the law more???"

I can't tell you who is breaking the law more, but I can tell you who the bigger douchebag is.

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"I am perfectly fine with NC following suit of whichever state it was (GA?) that passed the law making it a fineable offense to ride in the left lane"

It's already a fine-able offense in most states. However, in GA it is now a misdemeanor offense. There is a difference. Also, NJ just doubled their fines for left lane blocking.

3/28/2014 1:57:03 PM