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Dentaldamn
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People kissing!!!!

Groooooossssssss!

5/13/2014 3:12:46 PM

Bullet
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PDA! PDA!

[Edited on May 13, 2014 at 3:15 PM. Reason : sheesh]

5/13/2014 3:14:51 PM

rjrumfel
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^^^^how is disagreeing with a male on male kiss homophobic? Your comment proves my point exactly. You can't disagree with anything without being a bigot.

He disagreed with that kiss. I guess he shouldn't have done it publicly, but as the Sterling thing has shown us, it doesn't matter if you do it privately either.



[Edited on May 13, 2014 at 3:16 PM. Reason : fg]

5/13/2014 3:15:24 PM

y0willy0
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a couple of dudes sharing a kiss isnt as homo as all the cock youve looked at in porn.

yes, cock in hetero porn. the cock you pretended was yours.

5/13/2014 3:18:36 PM

Bullet
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i know you can't undestand, but saying you "disagree" with a male kissing a male, but "agree" with with a male kissing a female (whatever that actually means) does make you somewhat of a bigot, by definition.

5/13/2014 3:18:41 PM

ElGimpy
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telling another person something is never going to be 100% private. You don't want people finding out how you feel about something? Don't say it to anyone. Sorry if that's too difficult for some people

5/13/2014 3:19:18 PM

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what is there to 'disagree' with? he was in his own damn home!

i'm pretty sure gay people don't 'disagree' with every hetero kiss they see in public. they probably ignore it, since it doesn't pertain to them...

5/13/2014 3:19:34 PM

Dentaldamn
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Rjrumfel sounds like a 6 year old.

5/13/2014 3:23:28 PM

wdprice3
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To be honest, I don't care to see 2 guys kissing. But I also don't care to see most hetero couples kissing.

I just don't go on a crusade about it; just let it be and live my life.

5/13/2014 3:54:50 PM

Dentaldamn
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Twitter isn't where you go to keep things low key.

5/13/2014 4:04:35 PM

y0willy0
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thats just the thing though-

posting every waking though on twitter is a habit for these people.

its subconscious even (maybe the wrong word).

5/13/2014 4:15:18 PM

Dentaldamn
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Perhaps technology is outing all the idiots in a quicker way.

5/13/2014 4:21:42 PM

thegoodlife3
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no matter how you try and spin it, seeing two people be affectionate with each other by kissing (not even making out, just kissing) in a moment of absolute elation, and then shitting on it by saying you disagree with it, is a dick move

5/13/2014 4:52:47 PM

wdprice3
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It's ok, I don't like many "draft moments"

5/13/2014 4:54:10 PM

dtownral
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i don't think bomani jones was making a dick move here:
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"and the issue isn’t whether seeing two men kiss is uncomfortable. it’s why you think your comfort should matter.
— Bomani Jones (@bomani_jones) May 10, 2014"

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"and let’s be clear: i’m not pretending i’m used to seeing men kiss. it caught me off guard. i just gotta get over it. we can do so together.
— Bomani Jones (@bomani_jones) May 10, 2014"

5/13/2014 4:55:38 PM

thegoodlife3
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of course he wasn't, he's 100% correct

and to drive his point home, he made the shot of them kissing his avatar for nearly a day

[Edited on May 13, 2014 at 5:10 PM. Reason : yeah]

5/13/2014 5:07:13 PM

y0willy0
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rjrumfel should clarify exactly why it makes him uncomfortable.

5/13/2014 5:13:07 PM

wdprice3
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^it gives him a chubby

5/13/2014 5:13:47 PM

moron
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mirror neurons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_neuron

5/13/2014 5:59:07 PM

Dentaldamn
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This thread backfired.

5/13/2014 6:22:49 PM

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the line between private and public is rapidly disappearing.

I think that is sad and I dont agree with a person's private conversations being used to hang him (ie...Sterling). I dont care what he did, I dont want to encourage things like this.

while you sit on your high horse and condemn him and those like him, take a second and think all of the rotten shit you have said or done in private, jokingly or otherwise, and how those things would look represented to the public at large. I imagine every one of us has things we are not proud of and could be made to suffer greatly were those things presented in an unflattering manor.

fuck this overly sensitive, fake-outrage generating, PC bullshit society we are creating. fuck it in the ass like those two on draft day.

[Edited on May 13, 2014 at 6:34 PM. Reason : .]

5/13/2014 6:32:23 PM

EightyFour
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or, you could not be a piece of shit person that says/does hateful things. i know, it's difficult, but it's certainly possible.

5/13/2014 7:32:51 PM

ElGimpy
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^^ So in your world you think the NBA should just not respond to the Sterling incident and risk future financial hardship just to appease people like you who are upset everyone's so sensitive?

5/13/2014 8:49:56 PM

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"take a second and think all of the rotten shit you have said or done in private, jokingly or otherwise, and how those things would look represented to the public at large."


Since I was old enough to fucking know better most of these thoughts, if they are even thoughts, don't get uttered in public or private.

This motherfucker could have bought himself some culture. Fuck him. This is how society gets better...by weeding out these pieces of shit via the court of public opinion. How can you not encourage this? In other countries they would have just taken all his shit and sent him to some work camp forever.

Having said all that...he really seems like he has dementia and if that is the case then I feel bad for this guy.

5/13/2014 8:54:20 PM

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Seriously, the dude hasn't hidden the fact that he's a racist, well before this recording came out, and since it came out. But yeah....

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/05/shelly-sterling-today-show

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"“I felt bad for him,” she said in an interview that aired Tuesday morning on The Today Show. “Because he’s not the man I know. Or I knew. There’s something wrong.”

When pressed by Savannah Guthrie about what exactly was wrong, Sterling replied: “I really think personally he has dementia.” ...

“I don’t think it happened overnight, it’s been happening but nobody really knew the reason. He gets crazy and yells and screams and hollers one moment,” she said. “And then the next moment he’ll talk about something else. It’s like nothing makes sense.”"

5/13/2014 9:00:28 PM

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Not to mention he's openly cheating on his wife... What happened to the institution of marriage? Why are conservatives tacitly defending sterling under the guise of privacy? Try must really hate black people.

5/13/2014 9:09:41 PM

moron
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Also I don't think he has dementia, I think he just has affluenza.

He thinks because he's rich, his perspective and opinion is superior to everyone else's, which leads him to say nutty out of touch things.

5/13/2014 11:16:12 PM

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"Not to mention he's openly cheating on his wife... What happened to the institution of marriage? Why are conservatives tacitly defending sterling under the guise of privacy? Try must really hate black people."


According to him, Magic Johnson should be ashamed of himself for sleeping around and contracting HIV. I honestly can't think of a single reason to even try to defend him, other than being a racist. He even stopped himself from going off on another racist diatribe when Anderson Cooper baited him to go even deeper. He's a total piece of shit.

5/13/2014 11:54:13 PM

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"or, you could not be a piece of shit person that says/does hateful things. i know, it's difficult, but it's certainly possible."


true, but you are asking for a Utopia. we all have thoughts and opinions that are offensive to someone out there. whether they be on race, gender, climate change, foreign aid, etc...

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"^^ So in your world you think the NBA should just not respond to the Sterling incident and risk future financial hardship just to appease people like you who are upset everyone's so sensitive?
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I do get irritated that people are so sensitive, but thats not the point here. the point is the line between private thoughts and opinions and public thoughts/actions. there has to be a difference, no matter who you are.


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"Since I was old enough to fucking know better most of these thoughts, if they are even thoughts, don't get uttered in public or private.

This motherfucker could have bought himself some culture. Fuck him. This is how society gets better...by weeding out these pieces of shit via the court of public opinion. How can you not encourage this? In other countries they would have just taken all his shit and sent him to some work camp forever.
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uh, really? you NEVER say things that SOMEONE could take offense to? you have never laughed at an off-color joke? you have never told an off-color joke? give me a fucking break and get off of your high fucking horse. all of us have. I know I have.




look, my point is not to defend this windbag. I dont give 2 shits about him. my point is to defend the idea that a person should be allowed to have private thoughts and private conversations. not everything is meant for public consumption, nor should it be. think about if someone taped a conversation with you trashing your work for one reason or another, and then took it to your boss. its the same thing, basically.

also, does this mean the entire NBA will be held to the same standard? there are a bunch of guys playing and coaching right now that have a lot worse than use racially insensitive language. Jason Kidd, for example, beat the shit out of his wife. should he not also be banned for life? that seems a lot worse to me.

5/14/2014 9:19:41 AM

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"look, my point is not to defend this windbag. I dont give 2 shits about him. my point is to defend the idea that a person should be allowed to have private thoughts and private conversations. not everything is meant for public consumption, nor should it be. think about if someone taped a conversation with you trashing your work for one reason or another, and then took it to your boss. its the same thing, basically.

also, does this mean the entire NBA will be held to the same standard? there are a bunch of guys playing and coaching right now that have a lot worse than use racially insensitive language. Jason Kidd, for example, beat the shit out of his wife. should he not also be banned for life? that seems a lot worse to me"


Amen

5/14/2014 9:58:19 AM

ElGimpy
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It's their decision how they want to handle each case, but I wouldn't have a problem if they decided to ban Kidd

I just am not understanding what you'd like the NBA to do in this situation. You think he should be able to say something like that to someone in private and not have it become public. But it has become public. Even if the girl making that public is illegal and we throw her in jail, it's still public now, and the NBA still has to make their own business decision about how to handle. You want to impose some sort of rule on what decisions they're allowed to make?

5/14/2014 9:59:29 AM

DaBird
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your point is fair. the NBA's hands are a bit tied.

5/14/2014 11:23:04 AM

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TOLERANCE

or else...

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"Jason Kidd, for example, beat the shit out of his wife. should he not also be banned for life? that seems a lot worse to me."


Didn't ya know wife-beating doesn't stir up as much political, cultural, and financial fervor as gay rights do?

[Edited on May 14, 2014 at 12:15 PM. Reason : ]

5/14/2014 12:12:41 PM

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surprise, surprise, you're not a fan of tolerance.

[Edited on May 14, 2014 at 12:16 PM. Reason : i bet if he was a WNBA coach it would stir up more fervor]

5/14/2014 12:15:18 PM

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"my point is to defend the idea that a person should be allowed to have private thoughts and private conversations"


thoughts and conversations are actually quite different. thoughts are words that you say to yourself in your head but don't actually say them out loud, and conversations are when you actually take the next step to utter those words to another person. the cool thing about thoughts and that it's impossible for anyone to really ever know them, since nobody can actually read your mind. you can actually think/believe horrible, evil, ridiculous things all you want, and not one single person will ever know unless you convert your thoughts into spoken word. sorry, but even billionaires aren't immune from this important distinction.

[Edited on May 14, 2014 at 12:40 PM. Reason : .]

5/14/2014 12:40:11 PM

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"look, my point is not to defend this windbag. I dont give 2 shits about him. my point is to defend the idea that a person should be allowed to have private thoughts and private conversations. not everything is meant for public consumption, nor should it be. think about if someone taped a conversation with you trashing your work for one reason or another, and then took it to your boss. its the same thing, basically.

also, does this mean the entire NBA will be held to the same standard? there are a bunch of guys playing and coaching right now that have a lot worse than use racially insensitive language. Jason Kidd, for example, beat the shit out of his wife. should he not also be banned for life? that seems a lot worse to me."


So why aren't you mad at the bimbo who made these comments public? Anyone can say what they want in private; but there is no right or guarantee that if those comments become public, that you are immune to retribution. That's always been the case. Sterling isn't the first person that this has happened to and won't be the last. As soon as you open your mouth to anyone, your thoughts aren't in your sole-private domain anymore, as you have willingly shared them. If I were trashing my work to someone and they told the boss, I'd sure as hell expect some recourse.

As far as holding the NBA to the same standard, players and owners have always been held to different standards. I don't see what's different about this. Not saying that's right or wrong, but what it is.

[Edited on May 14, 2014 at 12:41 PM. Reason : .]

5/14/2014 12:40:25 PM

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"look, my point is not to defend this windbag. I dont give 2 shits about him. my point is to defend the idea that a person should be allowed to have private thoughts and private conversations. not everything is meant for public consumption, nor should it be. think about if someone taped a conversation with you trashing your work for one reason or another, and then took it to your boss. its the same thing, basically.

also, does this mean the entire NBA will be held to the same standard? there are a bunch of guys playing and coaching right now that have a lot worse than use racially insensitive language. Jason Kidd, for example, beat the shit out of his wife. should he not also be banned for life? that seems a lot worse to me."


You are defending him. He was trying to force his mistress to stop hanging out with black people in public. She didn't like this and got back at him. When he was given the opportunity to give his perspective on national tv, he continued to say dumb racist things. His privacy wasn't violated, he did this to himself.

When a person with wealth and power tries to use their power over their acquaintances to push their racist viewpoints, that's not a private thought. That's wrong.

Sterling is the only one responsible for sterlings predicament. What happened to personal responsibility...?

Do conservatives not care about "personal responsibility" anymore when a racist billionaire is the problem?

5/14/2014 2:05:35 PM

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"TOLERANCE

or else..."


If ohmy employs someone who is exposed as a racist he will do nothing about it. Anyone who disagrees with this is an intolerant liberal. Racists are safe with him.

5/14/2014 4:47:26 PM

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^ i think that's the issue.

People who have been known to semi-publicly espouse racist or bigoted ideas (people in this very thread... who have such a record on TWW) are now worried that society has started to work against them, and are trying to frame this as a "privacy" issue, rather than being honest with themselves and acknowledging their opinions are backwards and unwanted by society at large.

The fact of the matter is that how you treat people matters, what you say can come around and haunt you. Don't tell your half-black concubine that you don't like black people, and she should stay away from them.

5/14/2014 4:50:59 PM

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I'm not going to read through this stupidity, but just so I can keep score, outside of the OP, who else thinks Sterling and/or Don Jones should be exempt from punishment from their respective organizations for their respective comments.

5/14/2014 4:56:57 PM

moron
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ITT, TKE-Teg and DaBird so far.

5/14/2014 5:19:47 PM

DaBird
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As usual, moron manages to completely miss the point.

5/15/2014 6:41:53 AM

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^^^The OP never said shit about Sterling not deserving what is coming to him.

When it comes to Sterling, the OP is concerned about privacy - assuming he didn't know he was being recorded. There are some here who say he might've known. If that is the case then oh well, he's an idiot.

As far as Jones goes, he should have the ability to give his opinion. If there was language in his contract that says otherwise, then oh well, he's an idiot.

[Edited on May 15, 2014 at 7:09 AM. Reason : ^]

5/15/2014 7:09:06 AM

Dentaldamn
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So you arnt saying much of anything.

5/15/2014 7:13:04 AM

ElGimpy
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^^ So can you answer the same questions I was asking earlier?

Whether or not Sterling has a right to privacy in this case, the information is out. Is it your contention that the NBA should be forced to take no action because the information came out in a way it wasn't supposed to?

Is it your contention that the NFL and/or Dolphins should be forced to take no action? It's not up to them, regardless of whether it would hurt their bottom line?

5/15/2014 9:28:40 AM

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"When it comes to Sterling, the OP is concerned about privacy - assuming he didn't know he was being recorded. There are some here who say he might've known. If that is the case then oh well, he's an idiot.

As far as Jones goes, he should have the ability to give his opinion. If there was language in his contract that says otherwise, then oh well, he's an idiot."


If this happened in NC (one party state), would you feel the same way?

5/15/2014 9:56:49 AM

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"If there was language in his contract that says otherwise, then oh well, he's an idiot."


You don't think there's similar language in Sterlings agreement with the NBA?

5/15/2014 11:09:29 AM

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" As usual, moron manages to completely miss the point.
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The point is that you want to treat others poorly, and not have to worry about the repercussions. This is what Sterling thought he could do, and he was wrong.

5/15/2014 11:16:42 AM

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Another example of the PC police in action, silencing those who speak their mind:

http://www.thewire.com/national/2014/05/local-town-official-academically-defends-using-a-racial-slur-to-describe-obama/370930/

5/15/2014 7:35:49 PM

UJustWait84
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i guess you can't really speak your mind say ignorant/hateful shit without people noticing and getting upset anymore

5/15/2014 7:53:43 PM

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