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HaLo
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Goddamn this is terrible basketball.

something has to be done about us taking wide open 18 footers early in the shot clock. Other teams will give us that shit all day long. Work for a better shot.

12/6/2014 7:46:08 PM

saps852
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"ok I've changed my mind ... we are infact the worse alley-ooping team in the country"


we havent made a single one all season

12/6/2014 7:46:28 PM

dmspack
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gross

12/6/2014 7:46:46 PM

wstcoastwolf
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Anya hasn't made it to the 16 minute mark without 2 fouls the past 3 games

12/6/2014 7:46:47 PM

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Couple bullshit fouls so far. more to come I'm sure

12/6/2014 7:46:56 PM

BlackDog
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Ok it says this is on ESPN considering it says "ESPN - Your Game Is In A Commercial Break"

So what the hell is the deal?? ESPN giving us the shaft or what.

12/6/2014 7:47:00 PM

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"Other teams will give us that shit all day long. Work for a better shot."


the point is ... if you make those shots, they have to extend the defense ... which opens the lanes for easy shots and the post game.


it's not a bad shot, we need to be able to make them.

12/6/2014 7:47:18 PM

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I want to say one thing about Washington and I like the guy, when he is hitting shots then by all means keep him in. However when he is bad, he is bad, take his ass out.

12/6/2014 7:48:06 PM

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Barber is just a shitty ballplayer right now. Anya likes fouling more than anything. Washington has a Ironman booster in his left hand.

12/6/2014 7:48:19 PM

dmspack
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^^^it's on espnu

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"Anya hasn't made it to the 16 minute mark without 2 fouls the past 3 games"


might even be 3 of last 4, iirc

[Edited on December 6, 2014 at 7:48 PM. Reason : d]

12/6/2014 7:48:27 PM

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Zzzzzzz......

12/6/2014 7:49:55 PM

BlackDog
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found it



[Edited on December 6, 2014 at 7:52 PM. Reason : _]

12/6/2014 7:49:59 PM

laxman490
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^live now dude

12/6/2014 7:52:19 PM

dmspack
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^^ i don't follow. the game is on espnu. i watch the first few mins on watchespn while the football game was on espnu. so you should be able to find it on there

[Edited on December 6, 2014 at 7:52 PM. Reason : D]

12/6/2014 7:52:27 PM

AC Slater
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team playing like they got better shit to do right now

[Edited on December 6, 2014 at 7:54 PM. Reason : V LOL]

12/6/2014 7:52:50 PM

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It's like watching two retards trying to hump a doorknob

12/6/2014 7:53:08 PM

BlackDog
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Yea it just now popped up

12/6/2014 7:53:27 PM

wolfpack2105
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Zero focus

12/6/2014 7:55:04 PM

laxman490
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we never get any easy buckets. every pass and shot is contested.

12/6/2014 7:55:49 PM

dmspack
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kyle washington gets mugged

no call

wake hits a 3

[Edited on December 6, 2014 at 7:58 PM. Reason : EIGHT TURNOVERS!?!?!?]

12/6/2014 7:58:21 PM

BlackDog
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there is no other way to describe this other than "we suck", at least currently.

12/6/2014 7:58:36 PM

ssclark
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the tempo of this game is getting mauled

12/6/2014 7:59:16 PM

BlackDog
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We need to kill their tempo

12/6/2014 7:59:43 PM

alfredough
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So, have we regressed or has our competition so far been that bad?

12/6/2014 8:00:56 PM

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"MALIK

ABU

ABU
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12/6/2014 8:01:53 PM

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"So, have we regressed or has our competition so far been that bad?"


we had a bad first ten minutes, happens to every team. dont be melodramatic

lots of stupid decisions. cats sole purpose in life should be "get lacey involved immediately"

12/6/2014 8:05:20 PM

alfredough
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Not talking about just this game. This team has some serious problems. And wtf is up with Turner and Lee recently?

12/6/2014 8:15:30 PM

dmspack
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"Not talking about just this game. This team has some serious problems. And wtf is up with Turner and Lee recently?"


Lee just isn't very good. Turner has been fine this year other than vs Purdue when he had a rough game. I think we're fine. We struggled on the road against a solid Purdue team. No reason to panic yet IMO.

12/6/2014 8:17:20 PM

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the sky is falling

12/6/2014 8:17:54 PM

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"Lee just isn't very good. Turner has been fine this year other than vs Purdue when he had a rough game. I think we're fine. We struggled on the road against a solid Purdue team. No reason to panic yet IMO. "


exactly

[Edited on December 6, 2014 at 8:19 PM. Reason : .]

12/6/2014 8:18:18 PM

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And I don't mean to say that everything is fine and there's no reason to worry about our team. But there's no need to overreact to 1 or 2 games.

12/6/2014 8:20:33 PM

tower
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I've had it with Cat. Fuck him

12/6/2014 8:20:42 PM

Førte
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"this feels like one of those "come out flat after a deflating loss" games"

12/6/2014 8:23:19 PM

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We have ZERO offense and that is a serious problem anytime your talent level does not exceed the opponent's by a lot. Once the talent differential is gone, games come down to offensive execution, team defense, team rebounding and free throw shooting. All things that we either do poorly or don't do at all.

Almost all of our points come from guys beating their man and scoring on them 1 on 1. This means we don't get easy baskets and will continue to have extended scoring droughts if our guys aren't hitting these tough shots.

Watch where our points come from if you don't see this already. Lacey running down jacking a jumper in someones face. Cat running down driving and scoring. Quick pass to turner jacking a long 3. Washington scoring facing up the defender or back to the basket.

The one thing we do score on that may look like offense is when our guys get stuck in isolation and make an emergency last second pass, the defender sells out for the steal and we get an open shot. Those are plays that work against most teams but turn into dunks the other way against good teams.

I'm not sure if this team has any hope but going small could free some space for our style to be more efficient. How many possessions do we come down and just hold the ball or dribble until late in the shot clock? That is definitely not our philosophy and is a result of traffic inside. If guys are just going to stand around and not run a team offense (which at this point is what will happen the entire season, offenses can't be installed overnight.) then we at least need to spread the floor. Play martin at the 4 and just go small. Its not like big ball has been successful. We got destroyed on rebounding and interior defense against Purdue and still had the offensive problems. Could small ball be much worse?

12/6/2014 8:26:18 PM

tower
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Barber could be called for a carry on literally every possession. And an actual important reason to bench his ass - Lacey isn't that good a catch and shoot player. The ball needs to be in his hands.

12/6/2014 8:26:19 PM

velez75
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Great play out of the time out

12/6/2014 8:26:55 PM

GingaNinja
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We don't seem to be able to run any sort of offense

12/6/2014 8:29:08 PM

saps852
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off the ball movement and offensive spacing has been a problem so far this year. our DR percentage is 75 which is actually pretty good.

12/6/2014 8:29:54 PM

BlackDog
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Everyone forgave Barber last year because he was a Freshman, but we were all hoping for much better this year and he may have gotten worse.

Tyler Lewis is still out there right????




[Edited on December 6, 2014 at 8:34 PM. Reason : _]

12/6/2014 8:31:16 PM

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^^None of the problems i spoke of in the previous post are new this year. We just had more talent to cover them up.

12/6/2014 8:36:05 PM

saps852
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I feel like we ran the high post much better in gotts first two years but I'm old and my memory sucks

12/6/2014 8:37:24 PM

rflong
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Martin should play more and Abu play less. Barber needs to learn how to shoot a damn FT.

12/6/2014 8:37:25 PM

rflong
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Only positive I see from the first half is that WF has 5 players with 2 fouls.

12/6/2014 8:43:32 PM

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We had 4 great players in the first year and added 3 elite freshmen the 2nd year. Two highly skilled bigs, an exceptional 3 point shooter, and an elite guard. Its hard to not look good when you you have top 5 talent.

[Edited on December 6, 2014 at 8:44 PM. Reason : k]

12/6/2014 8:44:20 PM

BlackDog
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ok take Barber out, no question.

12/6/2014 8:46:34 PM

cptinsano
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Head Turner

12/6/2014 8:46:50 PM

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"I feel like we ran the high post much better in gotts first two years but I'm old and my memory sucks"


That's how much better Leslie and Howell were than our current big men.

12/6/2014 8:47:55 PM

dmspack
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good start to the half

12/6/2014 8:48:04 PM

wstcoastwolf
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Anya needs to bring the ball up the court more

12/6/2014 8:49:00 PM

cptinsano
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Lacey seems pretty good at basketball so far.

12/6/2014 8:49:03 PM

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