2 more wins than 2014?

[Edited on December 29, 2014 at 9:08 PM. Reason : /b]

12/29/2014 9:08:09 PM

8-4. People overlooking BC, VT, and UNC games. We will definitely lose one of these, probably two. Clemson and FSU will be our other two losses. I think we solve the Wake on the road curse next year.

12/29/2014 11:14:30 PM

I would feel pretty confident in saying the 4 OOC games, @Wake, and Cuse are definitely games we can expect to win. We all know that doesn't necessarily mean we will win those but we certainly should. To me, everything else is either a toss up at this point (UNC, @BC, @VT, Louisville) or games we'll likely lose (@FSU, Clemson). I don't think it'd be a stretch at all to go 2-2 in the "toss up" games and 0-2 vs FSU and Clemson.

But this is also predicting this 9 months out, so a lot can change.

[Edited on December 30, 2014 at 8:39 AM. Reason : d]

12/30/2014 8:38:36 AM

I'll be at that Wake game. I expect all you people to go as well.

12/30/2014 8:40:17 AM

^^ @FSU is the only game I would place in the "likely lose" category.

I think Clemson is losing like 9 of 11 starters on D and their best coach just left for SMU so they're going to be in a big transition. That's more of a toss up in CF. But yeah, semantics.

[Edited on December 30, 2014 at 10:27 AM. Reason : ...]

12/30/2014 10:26:20 AM

That's true...Clemson loses basically their entire defense. And their OC. I expect their O to still be fine next year, assuming DeShaun Watson is healthy. He was pretty great when healthy this season. The game being in Raleigh definitely helps. Trying to predict games 9 months out is kinda useless anyways

12/30/2014 10:38:38 AM

Wonder if their DC will see some looks for HC positions after that dominant performance vs. OU?

12/30/2014 10:43:09 AM

Hopefully we won't start conference play with FSU and Clemson

12/30/2014 10:50:30 AM

yeah this year's start to conference play was brutal - FSU, @Clemson, BC, @Louisville all without a bye.

12/30/2014 11:06:44 AM

Clemson's defensive back-ups are probably better than our starters. They've been recruiting pretty well the past 5 years.

12/30/2014 12:07:21 PM

2014 review/2015 preview by patrick stevens here....all seems pretty reasonable:

http://www.syracuse.com/patrick-stevens/index.ssf/2014/12/acc_2014_football_wrap_nc_stat.html?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=t.co

Quote :

"Way-too-early 2015 guess: Speaking of less-than-imposing out-of-league slates, N.C. State faces Eastern Kentucky and Troy at home and Old Dominion and South Alabama on the road next year. The Wolfpack might not crack the Florida State/Clemson/Louisville tier in the Atlantic Division, but there's enough in place that something in the 7-5 or 8-4 neighborhood should be anticipated. That might not satisfy N.C. State fans a ton, but the Wolfpack is not going to stack another five-victory over the one it enjoyed in 2014. Maybe Doeren can coax a 10-win season out of his roster, but the Wolfpack is solid in a lot of places but great in few. That's not the sort of overall identity that lends itself to much more than a respectable season and a mid-level bowl bid."

That seems fair. I agree that while we are quite strong at a few positions (run game and QB namely) - we aren't overwhelming anybody at other positions and right now that's the difference between us being 7-8 win team and a 9+ win team. Obviously this was only year 2 for Doeren and we made great strides...and this year's recruiting class is pretty strong. All of which is a good foundation going forward.

12/30/2014 12:43:21 PM

Quote :

"Clemson's defensive back-ups are probably better than our starters."

12/30/2014 12:48:28 PM

Nothing gets more more excited about football than seeing an OOC schedule like that!

Also, damn you Bo. EDUCATION? THAT'S WHAT GRAD SCHOOL IS FOR YOU DOLT.

12/30/2014 1:20:12 PM

^^ They shut down our offense in the second half.

12/30/2014 1:48:46 PM

We'll be breaking in all new special teams(LS, K, P, KR/PR), breaking in 2 new OTs as well as likely getting some first-time game reps for several RS-FR and/or true FR...I'm fine with a weak OOC schedule.

We're not competing for a playoff spot here people, pad your record with early wins while you work the kinks out(and hopefully get McClendon and other back-ups some PT), then hit the ground running when you start ACC play. Hopefully we won't have a stacked 3-4 game stretch like we did this year but I'd rather start ACC play at 4-0 beating scrubs than 1-3 or 2-2 losing to ranked teams.

This year is all about getting a higher # of wins(8-9 regular season) for a better bowl, we're not ready to compete for the ACC Championship yet.

12/30/2014 2:37:34 PM

I don't care who we play OOC as long as we win and it counts towards bowl eligibility. Stop kidding yourselves. We're still a long way away from needing to worry about how strong our OOC schedule looks year-to-year. Using that nervous energy to worry about how to finish in the top 2-3 in our Division would be a better use of our time.

12/30/2014 3:05:36 PM

the only reason i'd want a better OOC at this point is simply from an interest standpoint as a fan. playing south alabama, odu, troy, and eastern kentucky is just boring as shit.

12/30/2014 3:07:29 PM

^

I really don't give a shit about bowls. They're participation trophies. I know, I know, the schools love them.

I'd rather see a good or better 12 game schedule than worry about some shitty 13th game reward for mediocre teams.

12/30/2014 3:55:10 PM

Looking at State's all-time rushing list...barring injury, Shad should finish 4th in State history in rushing yards. He's currently in 10th with 2369 yards. Ray Robinson is 4th with 2781, so it wouldn't take much to pass him in 2015. But 3rd is Tremayne Stephens 3553...so it would take 1200 yards next year to pass him - really unlikely.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/north-carolina-state/rushing.html

Assuming this is accurate, Mike Glennon finished his career with -280 yards rushing. Good for 321st, dead last, on the list

1/2/2015 3:10:00 PM

http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootball/index.ssf/2015/01/george_mcdonald_leaving_syracuse_to_be_wide_receivers_coach_at_north_carolina_st.html

1/6/2015 10:30:32 AM

forgot the 2015 thread existed, so i guess i'll just copy this here:
he's the guy that got demoted from their OC this year, so I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't stay long if he gets an offer to be a coordinator again (he stayed at Arkansas as WR coach for less than a month to take that Syracuse job). supposedly a great recruiter though, so I'll take it. hadn't heard anything about Frisman Jackson leaving though.

1/6/2015 10:31:58 AM

so did we fire/demote the previous WR coach? good to see that the article posted above says he's known as one of syracuse's best recruiters and has a lot of ties to the south florida area. obviously we're not gonna be stealing talent from fsu and teams like that - but it'd be nice to get some of that florida talent.

1/6/2015 11:07:01 AM

Quote :

"I don't care who we play OOC as long as we win and it counts towards bowl eligibility. Stop kidding yourselves. We're still a long way away from needing to worry about how strong our OOC schedule looks year-to-year. Using that nervous energy to worry about how to finish in the top 2-3 in our Division would be a better use of our time."

THIS * infinity.

Quote :

"I really don't give a shit about bowls. They're participation trophies. I know, I know, the schools love them."

Bowls matter for the extra practice time to improve skills-- which are huge for the next season, and help with recruiting. Right now we need all the help we can get.

Quote :

"I'd rather see a good or better 12 game schedule than worry about some shitty 13th game reward for mediocre teams."

Trying to punch above our weight right now will hurt us more in the long term. We're not ready to compete with the big boys yet. Doeren's playing the long game. Play 4 winnable OOC games, beat the in-conference teams we are supposed to beat, maybe steal one or two from the better ACC programs, finish with 8 or 9 wins, and get to a mid-tier bowl.

It's a lot easier to sell recruits on a team that's "on the cusp" of being a contender at 8-9 wins than going 6-6 because we played too tough of an OOC schedule for the talent level we have.

They don't go back and do qualitative analysis on the schedule and go AHA you played shit teams to get that record, and therefore i won't commit to play at NC State.

If Doeren can continue this trajectory, recruiting will improve, results will improve, and scheduling will improve.

1/6/2015 11:20:07 AM

marquez valdes scantling apparently no longer on the team.

1/7/2015 3:16:17 PM

wonder what his deal is. fell off the planet this season compared to last.

1/7/2015 3:18:28 PM

yeah seemed like he had the tools and size to be a good WR and his production just never came around this year. oh well

1/7/2015 3:26:52 PM

WRs
Alston
Cherry
Louis
Trowell
Morgan
Ramos
Locklear
Hines
Sessoms

WE ARE GOOD!

1/7/2015 3:30:26 PM

Hines

1/7/2015 5:36:56 PM

freshman Nyheim Hines is expected to play some slot
don't worry, that's a ClassicMixup

1/7/2015 5:55:20 PM

Quote :

"Pack Pride @PackPride · 42m 42 minutes ago NC State redshirt freshmen Garrett Bradbury (TE) and Coult Culler (LB) are now listed as defensive tackles; added weight while redshirting."

interesting. not surprised to see one of our 3 first-year TEs get moved around, but assumed it would have been to OL. also, folks were acting like Culler was gonna be the next Luke Kuechly when he signed last year,

1/7/2015 6:01:38 PM

Linebacker Ford Howell, who signed with Wake Forest out of high school, is apparently transferring to State. We recruited him out of high school and originally committed to us, per the twitter dot com. I don't know much about him really, but I guess this is a good thing. I assume he'll sit out 2015 and be eligible in 2016.

1/9/2015 2:52:29 PM

Does the 2 year rule within conference not apply to football?

1/9/2015 2:56:00 PM

Apparently, he transferred from Wake after 2013 and then spent 2014 at Iowa Western CC. So I guess he doesn't have to sit at all since he's a Juco (I guess that's juco) guy.

1/9/2015 3:00:27 PM

Another Transfer

Quote :

" NC A&T QB Jordan Dawson Dawson is a redshirt sophomore, 6'1/190... he is the son of former NFL pro and Wolfpack standout Lin Dawson."

1/9/2015 3:03:13 PM

both will be walkons I believe.

1/9/2015 3:14:19 PM

Quote :

"Joe Giglio@jwgiglio NC State defensive end Drew Davis had back surgery before the bowl and won't play his final two college seasons but will remain in school"

heard about this last week but just now became public. sucks because he's a good kid who was willing to move over from LB when we were thin at DL. fortunately, we're not nearly as thin now, so we've got other guys that can take his spot in the rotation.

[Edited on January 12, 2015 at 6:31 PM. Reason : a]

1/12/2015 6:31:01 PM

fox sports says we're a preseason top 25 team.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/ohio-state-buckeyes-oregon-ducks-2015-preseason-top-25-ranking-011215

1/13/2015 11:44:35 AM

Just missed: Wisconsin, Mississippi State, Utah, Oklahoma State, Virginia Tech

suck on THAT, Benedict Wilson

also, good to see mah Vawls on the list as well

1/13/2015 12:20:24 PM

How did I miss the news about MVS being gone?

I really dropped the ball on that one.

1/19/2015 2:37:45 PM

1/19/2015 2:50:36 PM

1/19/2015 3:17:12 PM

Non-Conference:
Troy - W
Old Dominion - W
South Alabama - W
Eastern Kentucky - W

Conference Home:
Clemson - L
Louisville - W
Cuse - W
UNC-Cheat - W

Conference Away:
FSU - L
BC - L
WF - W
VT - L

8 wins in the regular season is my conservative estimate, I'd like to hope 4-4 in the league is a floor, but we like losing in Winston-Salem, so we could dip lower. Hopefully we don't get screwed out of the 1st tier of bowls this time with the 1 additional win.

I wish I could have more confidence in our road conference games. I'd throw VT in there, depending on what time we get them next season. If they're having a mediocre run and it's late in the season, it would depress the crowd and we'd have a good chance of winning. If we beat FSU or Clemson somehow, at 6-2 it might have us in contention for the division. Maybe.

[Edited on January 19, 2015 at 8:17 PM. Reason : x]

1/19/2015 8:13:58 PM

If we don't win 8 games, fire everyone.

1/19/2015 9:16:34 PM

Does Gallaspy end up with a redshirt considering the depth we have already with Shad/Dayes/Frasier?

[Edited on January 25, 2015 at 9:59 AM. Reason : ..]

1/25/2015 9:51:40 AM

Johnny Frasier (RB) decommits FSU for NCSU:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/florida-recruiting/blog/os-rb-johnny-frasier-decommits-fsu-for-nc-state-20150124-post.html

1/25/2015 10:24:15 AM

Quote :

"Should win: Home v Troy Home v E. Kentucky Away v Old Dominion Away v S. Alabama Home v Syracuse Toss-ups: Home v Louisville - played them tough this year, but I fear their offense will be improved Home v UNC - always going to be a toss up Away v Boston College - curse of TOB Away v Wake Forest - I rather not explain why, too painful Away v Virginia Tech - I just hope it's not a night game, or VT has a BYE before playing us Should lose: Home v Clemson - their QB (if healthy) will likely be the O-POY Away v Florida State - their Defense will by nasty"

Of those tossups, I think we beat UNC, BC, and Wake. 8 win season and an invite to the Belk Bowl if ND doesn't get drawn for it.

1/25/2015 1:01:01 PM

Playing @ Virginia Tech on a Friday??

http://www.richmond.com/sports/college/football/article_3d5b95a8-2e6f-55d8-84ad-ecf7e477ce8c.html

[Edited on January 28, 2015 at 9:49 AM. Reason : link]

1/28/2015 9:23:46 AM

I still can't believe we are going on the road to Old Dominion.

1/28/2015 9:33:49 AM

It'll probably be half State fans, at least. I agree though, it's fucking dumb. But going to South Alabama isn't any better.

1/28/2015 9:35:46 AM

^ ya but at least S. Alabama stadium holds more than 20K

but i also just saw they have only been a a program for 6 yearsssssssssssssssssss

[Edited on January 28, 2015 at 9:42 AM. Reason : c mon coach ]

1/28/2015 9:37:48 AM