dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
not at the surface, and they weren't that high in the book either
and 125mph on Mars would feel like a light breeze on Earth, 375 would feel blustery
[Edited on August 19, 2015 at 1:07 PM. Reason : .] 8/19/2015 1:04:24 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
http://quest.nasa.gov/aero/planetary/mars.html
Quote : | "Occasionally, winds on Mars are strong enough to create dust storms that cover much of the planet. After such storms, it can be months before all of the dust settles. The maximum wind speeds recorded by the Viking Landers in the 1970's were about 30 meters per second (60 miles an hour) with an average of 10 m/s (20 mph). Just as on Earth, at certain latitudes, the winds tend to blow in certain directions." |
Sounds like dust storms would be a problem just like in the book but minds that blow shit over not so much.8/19/2015 1:17:47 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
it's not just blowing shit over, it's covering the solar panels (decreased efficiency and more EVAs) and obstructing satellites, etc. 8/19/2015 3:13:09 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
but he got left behind because it blew shit over and stabbed him
[Edited on August 19, 2015 at 3:52 PM. Reason : again, not that important, just pointing out that its impossible for all of the science to be correc] 8/19/2015 3:51:26 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
the storm at the beginning is the only major thing the author fudged for the sake of storytelling. (i think i mentioned that either in this thread or another one already)... That's pretty much the first thing he always mentions in his interviews. 8/20/2015 3:00:16 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
RedditGifts did its teacher care package giveaway thing, and I got a copy of "The Martian" for my astronomy class!
I was very appreciative, so I attempted to write my thank you response post in the style of "The Martian"...
anyway here's a link... if you liked the book you might get some of the references. https://www.reddit.com/r/secretsanta/comments/3l4xex/the_teacher_recovered_log_entries_sol_6_sol_17/ https://www.redditgifts.com/gallery/gift/log-entry-sol-6/ 9/16/2015 8:35:08 AM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Finally got around to reading the book last week. Read it all in four days. I thought it was excellent but as an aerospace engineer, sci-fi geek, and NASA/spaceflight employee and enthusiast that is prob to be expected. Very scientifically accurate and I'm hoping the movie maintains that level of accuracy.
So 20th Century Fox had to consult with NASA on a ton of things while making this movie (We actually have a specific department that consults with media, even on silly movies like Transformers 3) so as a thanks for all of the technical guidance they are holding a special pre-screening for NASA employees on Monday. We are having a free raffle here to see who gets to go. Something like a few hundred tickets (out of a space center of like 4000 people, half of which prob won't enter) so its about a 1 in 5 chance I might get one. Will report back. 9/16/2015 12:29:01 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
^ thats awesome! Let me know what you thought of the movie if you get to go! Loved the book. I am not as intellectually invested in the topic, more of a curiosity and wonder at what our best and brightest can discover in a universe so vast! Heard the science was very accurate (believe the author is not only a hobbyist but actively interested in Astronomy).
The read itself wasn't a literary work of genius but it was written in layman's terms and was actually very funny. From the previews I think Damon will kill it as Watney and the rest of the cast is also very good. Can't wait to watch this movie!
[Edited on September 16, 2015 at 2:57 PM. Reason : a] 9/16/2015 2:57:12 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like I'm just extremely unlucky. There were ~300 tickets they were giving out. ~400 people signed up. I didn't get one.
Today there was a raffle for the unclaimed tickets. I still didn't get one.
Literally every person I know who entered except for myself and two others got one.
[Edited on September 18, 2015 at 2:59 PM. Reason : ] 9/18/2015 2:59:20 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
ncstateshit 9/18/2015 3:06:33 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
^lolyep. Just reported that the other two people got one in the second round. My odds of not getting one were apparently 9%. 9/18/2015 3:46:09 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
#stateshit follows you around forever. 9/18/2015 4:01:37 PM |
ENDContra All American 5160 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So 20th Century Fox had to consult with NASA on a ton of things while making this movie (We actually have a specific department that consults with media, even on silly movies like Transformers 3)" |
Id really like to know how that conversation goes down on something like Transformers...after NASA gives them some actual science, do they respond with "You know, we are going to stick with the schlock weve got. Thanks anyhow!" Im picturing someone asking, in all seriousness, "So how long would a deactivated Transformer last on the moon?"
Im about 3/4ths through the book, and Im really hopeful the movie stays pretty true to it. The trailers do seem to imply there is video communication with Mars, which concerns me...maybe that will be the one exception.9/18/2015 7:19:51 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
I just started the book and love every bit of it thus far. I love the sciency stuff he goes through while trying to stay alive. 9/18/2015 9:25:34 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
^^I think for the most part the consultation is so they can get permission to use NASA logos and insignias and stuff to look more authentic. I know someone who consulted with the movie studio that made Gravity -- my coworker is a leading expert in orbital mechanics and space attitude dynamics. She spent like 3 hours on the phone talking with them telling them all about how things properly move when in space and what works and what doesn't. They pitched all these things at her and she corrected everything and the studio was all super grateful and everything. Fast forward a few years and the movie comes out and they clearly didn't listen to a single damn thing she said. 9/18/2015 9:32:19 PM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
If you enjoyed the book, you'll like Adam Savage's interview with Andy Weir on The Talking Room
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SemyzKgaUU 9/21/2015 12:35:53 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
9/21/2015 12:36:35 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
lol there will be a third drawing today for any leftover unclaimed tickets. Let's see how unlucky I can get. 9/21/2015 12:37:36 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The trailers do seem to imply there is video communication with Mars, which concerns me...maybe that will be the one exception." |
I think its him doing the journal. I think in the movie they change it to video journals instead of a typed word type document. Can't recall what was in the book, maybe it was supposed to be a video journal all along?9/21/2015 1:17:10 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Still a big fat nope. Didn't get picked for the third draw either. Rolled up 5 mins before they closed and asked if I could just wait until they were closing and take an unclaimed ticket. Stack of 20 unclaimed tickets right there but they still couldn't do it for some legal reason.
9/21/2015 4:08:06 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
hahahahaha 9/21/2015 5:51:24 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
this is beyond NC State Shit now. Sorry buddy. 9/22/2015 10:09:33 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
going to go watch it tonight. I am pumped! 10/1/2015 10:52:08 AM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
Getting great reviews so far by critics:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_martian/ 10/1/2015 11:41:39 AM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
The atmosphere of Mars is very thin, even 100mph winds would feel like a stiff breeze to us. It has to be 50 mph even to PICK UP dust much less anything else. 10/1/2015 4:06:44 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
^Read the thread
Quote : | "the storm at the beginning is the only major thing the author fudged for the sake of storytelling. (i think i mentioned that either in this thread or another one already)... That's pretty much the first thing he always mentions in his interviews." |
10/1/2015 5:21:35 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah I believe he talks about that in his AMA as well. There's a few other small ones like the radiation shielding material but nothing that major. 10/1/2015 5:35:32 PM |
ussjbroli All American 4518 Posts user info edit post |
I thoroughly enjoyed it, pretty close to the book with relatively minor changes. Also, the new seating at Raleigh grande with the reclining leather seats is fucking awesome 10/2/2015 12:38:19 AM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
My wife and I are going tonight for a date night. 10/2/2015 6:43:55 AM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
Saw it last night, haven't read the book. It was really good and Matt damon carried the movie well. 10/2/2015 7:50:22 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
for those who have seen it, is there anything in it worth seeing in 3D? 10/2/2015 11:23:41 AM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
Nothing particularly felt amazing in 3d. It was only shown in 3d last night and had i the choice i wouldn't have paid the extra for it. 10/2/2015 12:30:49 PM |
ENDContra All American 5160 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/3D-Or-3D-Buy-Right-Ticket-Martian-84567.html In general, their reviews are pretty accurate to my experiences; this one got a 33 out of 35, so may be worth it? I think Im going to head to the big screen in Morrisville for this one. 10/2/2015 1:00:53 PM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
Trying out CineBistro for this one 10/2/2015 9:23:21 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Ran into Robonaut in the cinema lobby! The real Robonaut doesn't have a Chevy logo plastered on his chest though.
Great movie . Really good adaptation of the book. Even included a lot of lines taken directly from the book. Only left out a few things, but if they had included them it would have upped the run time by at least 30 mins so understandable that they couldn't include everything. A few blatantly obvious fallacies (none of which were in the book at least) but I won't be that guy and post everything that was wrong
[Edited on October 2, 2015 at 11:21 PM. Reason : ]
10/2/2015 11:21:25 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Great movie. Few actors could carry a film basically 90% of their time by themselves. 10/3/2015 12:17:55 AM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Loved it. I can go along with the few points of drama they actually left out of the movie. I love the incorporation of direct dialogue because it was hilarious.
My one bone of contention [SPOILER]:
I groaned at how they portrayed his rescue from the MAV while in space after they stuck with the story so well to that point. There was no reason for Lewis to have to go out nor for him to do the silly "Iron Man" thing (yes I know he mentioned doing that in the book) when the entire rescue was crazy enough as written. It felt like some weird Gravity-esc movie shenanigans.
[END SPOILER] 10/3/2015 10:39:22 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Also, the scene where they need a map to to find out where Watney is headed, so they take a picture off the wall in the cafeteria. You figure NASA might have a map or two laying around somewhere. 10/3/2015 12:53:59 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
From the book, it was the only map that had lat/long lines even though that wasn't shown in the movie. 10/3/2015 1:15:26 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
the movie really reduced the drama of travelling to Ares IV, it would have been worth a longer run time
also, I wish they included the laptop review joke 10/4/2015 2:06:57 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
I really enjoyed it. They obviously left out a lot of his struggles but you can only fit so much into a 2 and 22 minute movie. 10/4/2015 9:44:27 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
^^Agreed
[spoliers]
The book really focused on preparing and details for the journeys.
But overall they ended up making a really good movie. I was impressed with how they showed how skinny he became with scurvy and all that.
And they did a brilliant job with his launch back into space. For some reason the launch into space with open windows and no nose was really unnerving. And then the entire borderline nauseating unstable rotation of him in orbit. 10/5/2015 9:34:30 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
This was totally awesome! definitely want to read the book now. 10/7/2015 11:41:54 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
I really enjoyed it, but was sort of curious what they gave Commander Lewis more of a part in the rescue/why the changed the rescue at all. I think what was done in the book would have translated very well to the screen. Not really a complaint because I still thought the movie was great.
As for the 3D, I thought it was perfect for all the landscape/wide shots and not the typical 3D 'we're going to throw stuff at the screen'. It was very subtle and was a good compliment to the movie. 10/8/2015 8:08:08 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
This movie is a commercial for duct tape. 10/8/2015 5:16:16 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
Thought it was good, and I inderstood most of the deviations from the book. Surprised Kapoor was played by a black guy (isn't that an Indian name?) and I really didn't like the scene with Childish Gambino. I agree that the 3D was done well. I didn't know they only showed it in 3D where I went to watch it. I almost waited to see it elsewhere because 3D gives me a headache but it was actually good.
***Spoilers***
I was surprised they left out the bit about the storm or the rover getting stuck. The storm had so much promise on screen! Also surprised they didn't build in some sort of love interest for him (Kate Mara) because, you know, Hollywood - but I'm not bothered that they didn't.
My only other gripe was that it made it look too easy and too fast, but I get they had limited screen time.
[Edited on October 12, 2015 at 3:08 PM. Reason : .] 10/12/2015 3:05:42 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
I thought that scene with Glover was awful
I think they did originally have an Indian actor for Kapoor but scheduling did not work, also some people are upset that Mackenzie Davis played Mindy park instead of a SK actress
Good response to criticism of the roles of women in the film here: http://everythingsaproblem.tumblr.com/post/130704287521/the-martian
[Edited on October 12, 2015 at 3:40 PM. Reason : .] 10/12/2015 3:38:22 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
^ That's a satire site right?
It is, sometimes you have to make sure on the internet.
[Edited on October 12, 2015 at 7:11 PM. Reason : ] 10/12/2015 7:04:12 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37694 Posts user info edit post |
yea Glover's portrayal seemed like a big bang theory version of a scientist
i must have zoned out or something, what was the deal with ballooning the top of the vehicle? 10/31/2015 1:06:46 AM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
It was explained in the book. He essentially had to combine some of the second rover into his rover and he needed more space to do so. 10/31/2015 11:40:33 AM |