2 people in this thread don't get it

11/10/2015 7:56:57 PM

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"So much oppression. A vague reference to some drunk person yelling something mean to someone at some point, and someone writing an anti-semitic symbol with their feces in a bathroom. These poor college students overcame so much oppression bravely tweeting things on Twitter. Rosa parks, Dr. King, and Harriet Tubman don't even know what adversity is in comparison. Who shall the outrage culture lynch mob target next! Hey you! I heard someone say the N-word 20 years ago, WHERE WERE YOU THEN BIGOT? Hunger strike until you kill yourself."

For someone who is calling the oppressed "dramatic", you sure have a proclivity to sensationalize and dramatize the situation yourself.

At the very least, can you not even acknowledge that the president was out of touch, insensitive, and tone deaf with his comments?

[Edited on November 10, 2015 at 7:58 PM. Reason : .]

11/10/2015 7:58:07 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/10/us/racism-college-campuses-protests-missouri/index.html

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"Do U.S. colleges have a race problem"

No

Just hyper-sensitive pussies of all races...

11/10/2015 10:54:55 PM

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"Chanting “Black Bruins matter,” UCLA students crammed into Chancellor Gene Block’s office Thursday, demanding a response after some students wore blackface to a Kanye West-themed fraternity party. Holding signs reading, “Our culture is not a costume,” hundreds of students marched on campus days after the party sparked anger over its racial overtones"

Give me a fucking break

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-ucla-blackface-kanye-party-20151008-story.html

11/10/2015 11:00:16 PM

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"ust hyper-sensitive pussies "

so you're saying you're a proud mysogynist?

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"I'll accept this label with pride if my comments really make me this"

11/10/2015 11:06:42 PM

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"^I watched it a few days ago and knew he'd be resigning. It was stupid comment. https://twitter.com/Qiana_Jade/status/662835008516849668 "

Jeez, that guy's an idiot... i'm not sure what a university president actually does, but he probably shouldn't be doing it.

11/10/2015 11:30:05 PM

They should all start singing "We shall overcome"

11/11/2015 1:28:55 AM

Snort.

https://twitter.com/jacobbogage/status/664318370645413888

So, the Mizzou student body president just had to post a retraction about an alert that the KKK had been spotted on campus.

11/11/2015 2:32:59 AM

^ according to Reddit, Mizzou YikYak is filled with threats of attacking blacks on their campus, and lots of other racial slurs... i can see why people are a little on edge.

11/11/2015 2:56:14 AM

No, I understand that and I hope the people at yik yak have the good sense to release the IP addresses of those users so they can be investigated, but the level of panic is so disproportionate to what is going on that it's officially jumped the shark.

I'm sure of a few things:

1) at least a couple of those yik yak threats will have come from black students
2) classes will be cancelled
3) Not a damn thing will happen to anyone in terms of physical violence tomorrow

[Edited on November 11, 2015 at 3:20 AM. Reason : sdfsdf]

11/11/2015 3:19:30 AM

can't we all just get along

11/11/2015 6:47:29 AM

The university president should send out a personal email to every student reminding them that they are all unique and special little butterflies and at Mizzou they should be free from anything that may make them feel uncomfortable or require them to put on their big boy/girl panties

11/11/2015 11:00:49 AM

^Don't be a bigot. You can't use gender-specific terms anymore when talking about undergarments. You might offend someone.

11/11/2015 11:05:28 AM

Looks like the police have arrested one guy, Hunter Park, for making terroristic threats against students and faculty at Mizzou

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2015/11/11/mizzou-police-take-suspect-into-custody-after-social-media-threat





[Edited on November 11, 2015 at 11:33 AM. Reason : Hh]

11/11/2015 11:30:55 AM

Hunter is such an asshole name.

11/11/2015 11:52:18 AM

I don't see how rich someone's dad has anything to do with their protesting.

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"It's a pretty liberal school and Columbia is a pretty liberal town."

Some of the most liberal parts of the country (LA, NYC, Seattle, etc) have also had many of the worst examples of police abuse and brutality. Those places also tend to be heavily segregated, with documented cases of realtors and supers turning away black people when they had vacancies.

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"I'm not sure what the university president was supposed to do about the incidents that sparked this stuff. Someone having a racial slur yelled at them from a pasing car"

For starters he could've not waited a week to respond to the incident. A swift condemnation isn't that hard to do.

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"This is the first time I've ever heard of anything racially charged in Columbia."

Well there was this in 2010. http://digmo-01.missouri.edu/a/123450/update-cotton-balls-scattered-in-front-of-mus-black-culture-center/

I mean, just because you haven't heard of something doesn't mean it hasn't been happening.

11/11/2015 12:16:36 PM

From what I understand they are protesting about some incident ^ in 2010, some recent incident of a random red neck saying the N word at a conference of African Americans, and some African Americans being turned away from some douche frats kegger.

If students put this energy toward real issues like the environment, wall street reform, etc

Perhaps we really could build a better society where people of all colors benefit.

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" Some of the most liberal parts of the country (LA, NYC, Seattle, etc) have also had many of the worst examples of police abuse and brutality. "

Seattle give me a break. Maybe in 1990

11/11/2015 12:23:59 PM

I just got back from a week in Seattle

like all major cities, there is major housing segregation

unlike all major cities, there are barely any black people. it's freaky.

11/11/2015 12:26:44 PM

"If people prioritize and value only the things I prioritize and value, and in the way I want them to, the world would be a better place and racism wouldn't matter" - HUR

11/11/2015 12:28:36 PM

That university is an institution that, like other institutions, gets to decide how it wants its public face to be represented. They decided that they do not want to be associated with racism and let it be known very firmly that those views will not be tolerated. The President's lack of action on this issue, as well as the Chancellor's, were not seen as suitable for the students/ institution which they present.... Thus they were shown the door.
They were not arrested, tried, or convicted of any crime; because they did not commit a crime. They were forced out by their employer who, like other employers, get to decide if they want to even have a loose association with racist fucknuts.


I don't get why there is a discussion about this, honestly.

11/11/2015 12:45:11 PM

Because people called for a guy's resignation on account of a drunk guy acting drunk and someone else yelling out the window of a car. I guess the pres could have said "that stuff is dumb, don't do it," but I'm not really sure what else people were expecting.

11/11/2015 1:02:24 PM

Yeah, I'm unclear on what he was supposed to do.

They just wanted some lip service?

11/11/2015 1:09:35 PM

A little acknowledgement and commiseration can go a long way.

Also - apparently he was confronted by a group of students about issues like these and they were completely ignored.

11/11/2015 1:19:12 PM

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". They were forced out by their employer who, like other employers, get to decide if they want to even have a loose association with racist fucknuts."

Except the president was not forced out by an employer...
He was forced out by some hyper sensitive pansy college kids living in some warped sense of reality who were mad that some drunk asshole said mean things that hurt their feelings.

11/11/2015 1:19:19 PM

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"I had never even heard the word nigger until I moved to North Carolina."

Never stumbled across BET before?

11/11/2015 1:20:35 PM

By the way the issue with housing in Portland or Seattle is all economic. Housing on the city has become exceedingly prohibitively expensive. Unfortunately there is a correlation between being a minority (black, Asian immigrant, etc) and lower income per capita. Thus more monitored live outside the city.

There is no hidden conspiracy to keep communities white only or to suppress minorities from succeeding. If anything these cities are the capitals of being PC

11/11/2015 1:23:04 PM

Well.... Actually addressing the students' concerns would be a pretty damn good start. No one is expecting a silver bullet to end all racism coming from the President... That is a silly extreme of the false dilemma, and you should be ashamed for falling for it. But to say to the students ”look, I hear you. Work with me/ help me come up with ways....." would probably go a long way in showing he has a genuine interest in their concerns.

At the very least, NOT blaming the victims would have been a good look. I mean, did you all see the video posted to the last page?



^^^ nope. The students have no power to force the president to step down. Only his employer (or board of directors) has the ability to do that. What the students and athletes did was peacefully 'scream' so loud, drawing so much attention to the issue, that the institution was left with no choice but to confront it.

[Edited on November 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM. Reason : Jjj]

11/11/2015 1:24:27 PM

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"unlike all major cities, there are barely any black people [in Seattle]. it's freaky."

Well no shit, it's in the Pacific Northwest. Read up your history about blacks' intranational migration post-Civil War. The ones that moved out of the South went to the cities that had industrial jobs, which Seattle didn't have much of in 1880.

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"No, I understand that and I hope the people at yik yak have the good sense to release the IP addresses of those users so they can be investigated"

Or we could banish the concept of online anonymity that makes people think they can say whatever comes to mind without the notion of responsibility.

Some good would come of this, 4chan would shutdown.

[Edited on November 11, 2015 at 1:29 PM. Reason : /]

11/11/2015 1:26:00 PM

I am well aware of that

just saying it was odd to be in a major city with so few black people

11/11/2015 1:34:28 PM

your comment about ending online anonymity is some 1984-type sarcasm, right? like, no college educated person could possibly think that's a good idea, correct?

11/11/2015 1:35:06 PM

Yes. Although it's no different than publishing people's IP addresses. Or what Anonymous did to me. They saw fit to release my name and credit card details because I subscribed to Stratfor in the past and...they don't like people reading educated thoughts on geopolitics I guess. And within a week someone tried to do fraud with my credit card.

Re colleges and PC out of control, read this a couple months ago about how comedians completely avoid doing gigs there now. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/thats-not-funny/399335/

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"The colleges represented were—to use a word that their emissaries regard as numinous—diverse: huge research universities, tiny liberal-arts colleges, Catholic schools, land-grant institutions. But the students’ taste in entertainment was uniform. They liked their slam poets to deliver the goods in tones of the highest seriousness and on subjects of lunar bleakness; they favored musicians who could turn out covers with cheerful precision; and they wanted comedy that was 100 percent risk-free, comedy that could not trigger or upset or mildly trouble a single student. They wanted comedy so thoroughly scrubbed of barb and aggression that if the most hypersensitive weirdo on campus mistakenly wandered into a performance, the words he would hear would fall on him like a soft rain, producing a gentle chuckle and encouraging him to toddle back to his dorm, tuck himself in, and commence a dreamless sleep—not text Mom and Dad that some monster had upset him with a joke. Two of the most respected American comedians, Chris Rock and Jerry Seinfeld, have discussed the unique problems that comics face on college campuses. In November, Rock told Frank Rich in an interview for New York magazine that he no longer plays colleges, because they’re “too conservative.” He didn’t necessarily mean that the students were Republican; he meant that they were far too eager “not to offend anybody.” In college gigs, he said, “you can’t even be offensive on your way to being inoffensive.” Then, in June, Seinfeld reopened the debate—and set off a frenzied round of op-eds—when he said in a radio interview that comics warn him not to “go near colleges—they’re so PC.” When I attended the convention in Minneapolis in February, I saw ample evidence of the repressive atmosphere that Rock and Seinfeld described, as well as another, not unrelated factor: the infantilization of the American undergraduate, and this character’s evolving status in the world of higher learning—less a student than a consumer, someone whose whims and affectations (political, sexual, pseudo-intellectual) must be constantly supported and championed. To understand this change, it helps to think of college not as an institution of scholarly pursuit but as the all-inclusive resort that it has in recent years become—and then to think of the undergraduate who drops out or transfers as an early checkout. Keeping hold of that kid for all four years has become a central obsession of the higher-ed-industrial complex. How do you do it? In part, by importing enough jesters and bards to keep him from wandering away to someplace more entertaining, taking his Pell grant and his 529 plan and his student loans with him. ... The kids in the audience belonged to their schools’ student-activities committees, and had thus been appointed the task of picking the paid entertainment for the next year. I found them, as a type, to be cheerful, helpful, rule-following, and nerdy. They were also—in the best sense of a loaded word—inclusive. “We don’t want to sponsor an event that would offend anyone,” Courtney Bennett, the incoming president of the student-activities board at Western Michigan University, told me. The NACA kids were impossible not to like, although nothing about them suggested a natural talent for identifying original forms of artistic expression. They would cluster around their grown-up advisers like flocks of ducklings to powwow about the performers they had seen. Then, with the casual ease of people spending someone else’s money, they would use an app to blast potential dates to the artists they liked. These were the buyers, then: one half of the equation. The entertainers were the other half. They had come to the event on their own dime, and were trying to do whatever it took to please these young people so that they could get some road work. Their first step might have been to read the convention brochure. NACA, it explained, is dedicated to “promoting the importance” of “eliminating” any language that is “discriminatory or culturally insensitive.” O, Utopia. Why must your sweet governance always turn so quickly from the Edenic to the Stalinist? The college revolutions of the 1960s—the ones that gave rise to the social-justice warriors of today’s campuses—were fueled by free speech. But once you’ve won a culture war, free speech is a nuisance, and “eliminating” language becomes a necessity."

Those are the types of people that'll request the destruction of online anonymity...or publish everyone's IP address.

[Edited on November 11, 2015 at 2:00 PM. Reason : /]

11/11/2015 1:42:20 PM

a VPN is easy enough to use if you want your IP anonymous

11/11/2015 2:20:37 PM

should I really have to use a VPN to post on the Wolf Web?

11/11/2015 2:24:22 PM

There are two educators on this site who have posted with conservative views, and people have threatened both of their jobs. I think anonymity does us good here.

11/11/2015 2:31:15 PM

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"I just got back from a week in Seattle like all major cities, there is major housing segregation unlike all major cities, there are barely any black people. it's freaky."

Oddly enough, the last time I was in Seattle and having brunch in Alki Beach, a Black Lives Matter group stormed into the restaurant and started rattling off the names of black people that had been killed by cops. It was quite the scene and the owner had to threaten to call the cops to make them leave.

11/11/2015 2:31:46 PM

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"Well.... Actually addressing the students' concerns would be a pretty damn good start. No one is expecting a silver bullet to end all racism coming from the President... That is a silly extreme of the false dilemma, and you should be ashamed for falling for it. But to say to the students ”look, I hear you. Work with me/ help me come up with ways....." would probably go a long way in showing he has a genuine interest in their concerns."

And how the hell was he supposed to address it? How do you stop a drunk idiot from being a drunk idiot? Ban all alcohol on campus? How do you stop a dumbass driving by in a car from being a dumbass? Ban all cars on campus, too? Honestly, what in the hell was he supposed to do? For fuck's sake, this one girl called the cops because some drunk idiot called her a "nigger." Seriously. She called the cops for being called a name! Anything more from the president than "gee, that sux, people shouldn't be rude" would be excessive. People demanding a damned panel or focus group on this are being absurd, and if the President responded as such, he was right.

Students need to stop being so damned sensitive. Somebody yells a racial slur in class, OK, kick the asshole out. Random person yells a racial slur in public at random? Teach kids that they aren't special snowflakes and that there are, in fact, assholes in the real world, and they need to learn how to deal with that.

[Edited on November 11, 2015 at 11:55 PM. Reason : ]

11/11/2015 11:52:17 PM

^ you're looking at the events in isolation, but there has been a long string of events that affected the students broadly, and Wolfe didn't do much to address them. He wasn't a good leader, racism or no racism.

I'm not sure why people who had never heard of wolfe until this point feel the need to defend him against a campus community that seemed united against him, including large amounts of faculty, and the football coaches. Actually... i do know, but i'll leave this as a soul searching lesson for you.

11/12/2015 12:32:49 AM

I guess I just haven't heard what this "long string of horrible racially motivated events" is. I've just heard those two, plus the faked story about the feces swastika, and the cotton balls from 2010. Everybody says there's more to it, but I haven't heard it. But seriously, calling the cops because somebody called you a bad name is pretty stupid.

11/12/2015 12:57:05 AM

^ this is from their campus newspaper:
http://www.themaneater.com/special-sections/mu-fall-2015/

and "faked story about poop swastika", can't believe you've bought into this. Has anyone actually came out and said it was fake? Is there any evidence that the police and RAs made this up? This wasn't the first swaztika incident on their campus either.

11/12/2015 1:13:20 AM

IT'S A REVOLUTION!!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/12/us/racial-discrimination-protests-ignite-at-colleges-across-the-us.html

Racial Discrimination Protests Ignite at Colleges Across the U.S.

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"The passion that ousted the heads of the University of Missouri after protests over racial discrimination on campus is spreading to other colleges across the country, turning traditional fall semesters into a period of intense focus on racial misunderstanding and whether activism stifles free speech."

11/12/2015 1:55:35 AM

Omfg this election will be the Trump vs. the PC police led by Hillary

11/12/2015 2:03:18 AM

BTW how is it racist that some chick in California wore a sombrero and mustache for Halloween....

I wore a kilt, plaid scarf, and blue face paint for Halloween. I hope I didn't offend any Scots that may have been in PDX. I feel bad that I didn't take into consideration the feelings of Scots-Americans before wearing this insensitive costume.

11/12/2015 2:10:09 AM

It's not going to be Trump, and Obama himself has come out against the hypersensitivity from college kids.

But on Wolfpack Students Facebook, there's people unironically posting links from Glenn Beck's site. The up and coming generation of college kids is definitely going to be an interesting mix of white civil rights activists fighting windmills and Bernie Sanders' brand of socialism.

11/12/2015 2:10:56 AM

good article on what this is all about:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/11/11/campus-racism-makes-minority-students-likelier-to-drop-out-of-college/

11/12/2015 2:34:33 AM

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2015/11/11/another-threat-connor-stottlemyre-vows-to-shoot-any-black-people-cops-say

11/12/2015 7:18:40 AM

Apparently the Black Culture Center on campus was vandalized as well.

11/12/2015 8:12:59 AM

All this could be fixed really easily if before people did stuff they asked themselves, "Does this make me an asshole?" If they answer is yes or even maybe then you probably just shouldn't do it. Not only would that take care of racism, but also a majority of the other issues caused by the world being full of a bunch of assholes.

11/12/2015 8:25:08 AM

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"At the very least, can you not even acknowledge that the president was out of touch, insensitive, and tone deaf with his comments?"

Fuck no. Disagreeing with radical liberals is not "out of touch and insensitive". This is America, people are allowed to not be idiots. Just because he disagrees with some spoiled, entitled, super liberal drama-queen wanna-be activists that keep asking him to pay lip-service to race-bait questions???

It is absolute lunacy that 2 people had to resign "because of racism". Not because of their racism, but because of "racism" in general, except with no actual examples.

Look at the list of demands... these are the monsters that liberalism breeds:

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"I. We demand that the University of Missouri System President, Tim Wolfe, writes a handwritten apology to the Concerned Student 1-­9-­5-0 demonstrators and holds a press conference in the Mizzou Student Center reading the letter. In the letter and at the press conference, Tim Wolfe must acknowledge his white male privilege, recognize that systems of oppression exist, and provide a verbal commitment to fulfilling Concerned Student 1-9-5-­0 demands. We want Tim Wolfe to admit to his gross negligence, allowing his driver to hit one of the demonstrators, consenting to the physical violence of bystanders, and lastly refusing to intervene when Columbia Police Department used excessive force with demonstrators."

11/12/2015 10:36:56 AM

A police report was released on the dookie swastika. I guess this shuts people up that denied it happened

https://twitter.com/WesleyLowery/status/664806657050865664

11/12/2015 11:09:53 AM

I'm sure the rich Jewish students that were offended by it can use that as a basis for a protest against "oppression" 5 years later.

11/12/2015 11:12:25 AM